What's does a monks circle mean ?
Man City game. A potential turning point…
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What's does a monks circle mean ?
We are going to get absolutely hammered.
Our performances are clueless, incompetent and directionless. We play genuinely horrible football.
That sums us up nicely.
That sums us up nicely.
Hannibal starting a premier league game, that would be an interesting call!
You just need to stifle Man. City all over the pitch for as long as possible and then see what opens up when they're out of possession. Mount is no good as the 8 in a 3 man midfield so get him either out wide as he frequently was for Chelsea in this type of game or have him and Eriksen ahead of two DMs and see how that copes.
I think it's a good game to leave Rashford out just to see how he reacts as he's been miles off it in last six weeks.
From what I can make of it, city are struggling to develop their new system. Having a big lump up front was a massive change for them, last season, but the big lump was scoring for fun because teams that knew how to set up under the old city were suddenly faced with something new to them.
I think that they’ve now been sussed and often struggle due to their system being soaked up and totally nullified in the final 3rd. Their players are so good on the ball that they’ll still win stuff but IMO they’re looking right off the boil and they need to develop their play to deal with the being sussed thing.
I think that utd had a pretty damn good season last year because TH was compromising his principles to get the best out of a mix & match squad . . He had no choice because you can’t play out from the back and play high line footie with DeGea stuck on his line.
I thought he did good at that under the circumstances but it meant that he couldn’t get the squad working at playing progressive footie.
This season you’ve got Onana, who‘s sort of ok but I’m guessing maybe not with you for too much longer. However, the really great thing about Onana is that you can play out from the back and push right up in possession. Which means that TH is only now putting your squad through a steep learning curve, hence you’re a bit hit and miss / the sublime diluted by the ridiculous but you do have it within your gift to beat anyone if you get into your stride. So, not sure if you’ll beat city but nobody can rule it out
Re refereeing decisions, at the level of football that I watch the refereeing decisions would have more relevance to the games if they were given numbers and pulled out by a bingo caller.
Ball into touch like two little duck 22, Handball in the box 28, I was looking the other way 17, unlucky for you you’re sent off 13, yellow card for diving and sorry to see he broke your leg 63, 17 minutes of extra time is fine 99 etc.
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The hell do you want me to say.
Man. City in "crisis" will be 9 points clear of you if they win on Sunday so I think grinding out that Brighton win indicates they've got over the disappointing performances at Wolves and Arsenal.
As it happens I think if you had better defensive structure available then you could grind out a 0-0/1-1 in this as Man. City aren't keeping many clean sheets so far and of course you did win this fixture last season.
Based on what I've seen so far this season though just feels Man. City will get into their rhythm quicker, probably score in first 20 minutes and then be comfortable for rest of the game. It was like that in the derby just before OGS got the sack so I think it will be similar profile of game.
Sorry if I think you're playing similar to the time in October/Nov 2021, that was only two years ago with about 7/8 still featuring.
I should really ask if you’re over 18 before I respond but . . I’ll be a bit cryptic and use full words so that anyone under 18 won’t understand; a monk’s circle was or is, reportedly, a large circle of monks doing a monk doing a monk thing . . one behind the other behind the one behind the other and so on infinitum.
Like a big circle so that it could be achieved . . 2 or 3 monks could definitely not do it . . unless . . err . . maybe . . but . .
Try Googling it eh?
McSauce scoring twice in ET was a turning point, Onana saving that pen was a turning point, the City game is a potential turning point…. At this point we are just going in circles!
The only thing that doesn’t change is the football always stays the same which is atrociously bad.
Moyes, LVG, Mourinho, Ole, Ten Hag. None of them have gotten any of their squads playing consistently well throughout an entire season.
Yeah we need Hannibal’s energy in our ponderous midfield. Mount LW is what I’d like to see, stuff the midfield and make it a bit of a shit game.
Whatever momentum we get won't last long.
We resort to fan fiction now?
This is the stuff we used to laugh at rawk
All that's missing is Bobby smiling from heaven and say good job son
Difference is RAWK believed it, we know we’ll lose
We’ve turned around so much we’re going in circles
Wait, so fans shouldn’t try and be optimistic for the city game?
If I said that I think we could win playing free flowing football cutting city apart,you might have a point, but I didn’t do you don’t.
Is it possible we will raise our game and get a win? Yes, yes it is. Is it likely? No. We will probably have a good first 20 minutes, start making mistakes, go in one nil down, come out, start poorly, get a scrappy equaliser, but concede another toward the 80th minute mark then fold like the Feckin cheap deck of Lidl cards that we are.
It won't be a turning point because United don't need one. Usually a turning point to the better happens when a team is on a run of bad results despite playing well. If you than get a win it can give you the extra confidence that things click and you go on a winning run.
But for this to happen you need to have a bad run of results and be otherwise playing well. United at the moment doesn't have a difference between results and quality of play, it's just mediocre. So a single turning point can't happen, even if United should win. It's not that kind of situation where a single moment can fix your issues, the play simply is to bad.
But for this to happen you need to have a bad run of results and be otherwise playing well. United at the moment doesn't have a difference between results and quality of play, it's just mediocre. So a single turning point can't happen, even if United should win. It's not that kind of situation where a single moment can fix your issues, the play simply is to bad.
Maguire will get the winner. Believe.
Don’t fuss yourself mate, this guy is a famously miserable sod. No joy here! I recommend putting him on ignore, makes the caf a brighter place!
Could be a turning point for Ten Hag`s future? largely backed and supported despite really poor football and results.
Look I back him and think he should stay, but I do think a proper hammering against this lot and then Liverpool in a few weeks and he could find himself on the ropes.
Look I back him and think he should stay, but I do think a proper hammering against this lot and then Liverpool in a few weeks and he could find himself on the ropes.
I don't think so. We've beaten them before, did it change anything? In his two full seasons, Solskjaer's record against them in the PL was 3-1-0. Was it a sign of better days?
Thing is that our best chances to get a result against them is by playing the type of football we should be working to move away from. It should tell you something when the best team in the world currently and their manager simply don't care whether they're going to lose a few games now and then or not against that type of football. So, no, i don't think it will be a turning point for ETH. More likely, if we get something out of it, it will lead to more fingers being pointed at him when we fall short again in the following fixtures by trying to be more courageous with our positioning.
It doesn't mean that a thrashing is acceptable, though. It's just sad that, 15 years ago, United were the reigning champions of Europe and England while City were just two months into their new ownership status. Look where both clubs are now and how expectations have changed for both sets of fans before derby day.
I don't think we should ever be accepting of respectable losses against City or Liverpool. We are Utd, and that means we dont look up at rival clubs - we should fear nobody and expect to beat everybody. I hope that is the attitude ETH is cultivating within this group, but I am worried that he is not that type of manager. The tactics are just basic counter-attacking and players look like they lack belief.
If we can keep it 0-0 until 85th min then we score we may have a chance, but if we go behind anytime then its a real uphill battle. I really cant see City fecking up tbh.
I don't think there are turning points without a gradual clear improvement in performances. We've been terrible all season and beating City won't suddenly make us better. I'll believe we're turning a corner when we start playing well for a while.
I feel like conceding early has been part of our game plan since SAF so we re pretty much screwed.
Came in to say the above. We could beat City & easily lose against < insert team we “should” beat here >
The worst thing is that if we win, we've totally fluked it (not that I'd care). There isnt a chance in hell we're going to play well.
Its a fairly easy 3 points for City, I just hope we put up a fight and dont get steamrollered.
If we somehow manage to crush City or even beat them 1-0 we can definitely point to this match as an important step forward in our quest to secure a top four spot by season's end.
The problem, however, is that City fukks things up against us. When they slip on a banana peel it's usually to a bottom feeding club. And as bad as things have been at OT this season, we are not yet a bottom feeding club.
The problem, however, is that City fukks things up against us. When they slip on a banana peel it's usually to a bottom feeding club. And as bad as things have been at OT this season, we are not yet a bottom feeding club.
Based on our last few matches then we don’t really stand a chance - we’ve been outplayed in those games and somehow managed to get a result.
City are a different proposition - certainly not the team and form they were in last season but will have more than enough chances against us as other teams have shown.
Football is football so we have a punchers chance. On the counter possibly the only option for us.
Just how good would it be for Rasmus to come good and get his first PL goals!
City are a different proposition - certainly not the team and form they were in last season but will have more than enough chances against us as other teams have shown.
Football is football so we have a punchers chance. On the counter possibly the only option for us.
Just how good would it be for Rasmus to come good and get his first PL goals!
The fact that we all have so little faith of getting a result tells you everything you need to know. Honestly it’s a game where we kind of need someone like Fred in the middle because right now we aren’t going to be able to match their intensity since we don’t have anyone in our midfield with high energy levels.
If we concede early the floodgates will open so just keep them at bay until half time.
If we concede early the floodgates will open so just keep them at bay until half time.
Its like groundhog day. The hope in this thread and others is cute.
We all know what's going to happen. City will win very very comfortably. They'll score early. They'll toy with United and score a good few goals. Rashford will breakdown most of our attacks and stroll back after he does. Bruno will moan his way through the game and give the ball away multiple times. The midfield will be invisible. Defence will be all over the place. God only knows what Onana will do.
After the mauling this place will implode for the few days after it
Strap in
We all know what's going to happen. City will win very very comfortably. They'll score early. They'll toy with United and score a good few goals. Rashford will breakdown most of our attacks and stroll back after he does. Bruno will moan his way through the game and give the ball away multiple times. The midfield will be invisible. Defence will be all over the place. God only knows what Onana will do.
After the mauling this place will implode for the few days after it
Strap in
Yawn. A decade of this rhetoric now.
There's no shame in admitting the truth. In pure football terms we go into this game as underdogs, and have done for a long while and even more so this season.
That underdog mentality has actually brought about some great results in this fixture in absolute fairness too. Last year's win came about after we went down and finally woke up in the game.
We will win 1-0 with McTominay scoring the winner, the ETH will slowly take off his mask to reveal OGS laughing
Maguire hasnt performed for us at his best for some time, probably from the time of that incident in Greece or wherever it was. Since then he has looked slow and accident prone, but, though Im not a great fan of his, he has the ability to be so much better; lets face it, of late he plays better for England than he does United.
I see Haaland going HAM in this game against Maguire and Onana.
He’s due a big return in the PL and he’ll be right up for this.
I just don’t see any possibility of this Utd defence containing him.
He’s due a big return in the PL and he’ll be right up for this.
I just don’t see any possibility of this Utd defence containing him.
Keep it tight. Long ball over the top and who knows?
This game is all upside for me my addled United supporter brain. Expect to lose 3-1. So, if we pull it off I will be beyond happy. If we lose, Ravens play at 415, no big whoop. It's a bummer this is how I feel these days....