Man City bid for Jonny Evans | 1st bid rejected

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What's the deal with Smalling? The majority of the times I've seen him play over the past few years he's been your best defender and I'm normally impressed by him, although Bailly looked solid last season. Do I just watch the few games he plays well?
He was great in LvG's second season but last season he was quite poor. He's nowhere near as bad some people make him out to be though. He's a solid centre back.
 
Nothing. He's a very capable defender who had some bad games last season that were blown out of proportion. A huge part of that was the vilification from Mourinho, who questioned his integrity to football when he got injured playing through a toe injury. Football fans have their punching bags in squads and Smalling is currently RedCafes/Manchester United fans at large.
Yeah pretty much this. Smalling has his faults (technically very average), but he's a solid defender and we would be stupid to get rid of him, given that Rojo is injured, Lindelof still needs time to adapt and Bailly and Jones being suspended for a few games in the champions league. Smalling, Fellaini and probably Lingard get the most stick by United fans.
 
What's the deal with Smalling? The majority of the times I've seen him play over the past few years he's been your best defender and I'm normally impressed by him, although Bailly looked solid last season. Do I just watch the few games he plays well?

He's always got a mistake in him.
 
What's the deal with Smalling? The majority of the times I've seen him play over the past few years he's been your best defender and I'm normally impressed by him, although Bailly looked solid last season. Do I just watch the few games he plays well?
very good defender... but his distribution is not great...
Not necessarily an issue but there does seem to be a trend to have at at least one center back who can step up into midfield and not look out of place... certainly thats not baillys game so playing the both of them together might be unlikely so it seems the best he can hope for is being cover for Bailly - but other options Lindelof, Rojo, Blind, Jones can all play at full back and a couple of them in midfield as well so I dont think its anything bad against Mike - itsjust he isnt our no1 defender and possibly not versatile enough to be the the option on the bench... and clearly he is a good enough player to get games in the PL so a move sould seem best all round
 
Can replace Kompany in the physio room
Or maybe they are signing Evans to keep Vincent "Kompany" in the treatment room...although I think since he joined WBA he has started fairly regularly, 61 games in 2 seasons.
This would be a real surprise if it happened, don't think anyone saw this transfer coming.
Some players can't handle the pressure at big clubs and injuries can often be the result of tension/nerves affecting the muscles and posture.
 
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I'd hate to see this. Evans is a very good player. The confidence vampires Moyes and Van Gaal got to him at United.

He was very good under Moyes. Unfortunately he had his worst season under LVG and was canned. Wasn't really LVG's fault. Evans was really poor that season and played so many bizarre back passes that season it was ridiculous.
 
I always rated him, thought he could have made it longer with us if he'd just had one of those 'aha' seasons, uninterrupted by serious injury (like Smalling's 2015-16.) He does have weaknesses which get exposed playing at the top of the league, notably a habit of switching off, and a vulnerability in one-on-ones. But he's also a ball-playing CB who's not a disaster waiting to happen, so he'd be an upgrade on Stones.

Hope this doesn't happen.
 
City should look for some unknown defender who is worth 45M or more... A guy with PL experience is a strict no no :D:D
 
He'd be a good squad signing. His passing is great and he'd work well in a back three when required. If he moves to City then it's a sensible move for both parties. He's also better on the ball than Stones, for what it's worth.

Let's not start the whole "we shouldn't have sold him" lark, mind you. He was shite during his final season here and was shown the door as a result. If we were similarly ruthless with other players previously (and still?) at the club we'd probably be in a better position right now.
 
The contrast between the attackers they sign, and the defenders is crazy.
 
They rejected £18m and we sold him for 5m

And apparently Leicester rejects £40m for drinkwater and we sold him for 1m

This is following Leverkusen getting more for Hernandez than we got when we sold him
 
Would be sad if they get him. Wish we still had him still. A quality defender, but sadly got sold by LVG. He can go in and improve that City defense.
 
Was mediocre under Moyes, was shit under LvG.
Midtable club with no pressure nor ambition is where's his level.

But Evan wouldn't be any worse than Stone I guess ?
 
Don't get these type of transfers,Evans is 29, would he want to go there knowing in all likelihood he won't play that often apart from(I'm guessing) League Cup and the odd premier league/Champions League games.

I've got no problem with an ex-United player going to a rival but it's the obvious lack of game time that puzzles me.

Kompany probably won't last the season so it wouldn't be hard for Evans to perform and go past Stones into a starting spot
 
Evans would be a really good signing for City. He is a fine player with a ton of experience.
 
Some of our fans never fail to amaze me.
Those who cry about Welbeck still, when he scores one of his 4 goals a season, before being injured for 3months.

And now Evans? He was only ever decent alongside an all time great like Vidic or Ferdinand in our quality teams, and was pretty dreadful near the end.
I cannot believe City think he'd be even close to being worth signing, unless it's as 4th choice material.
Who is he going to play in front of? Kompany? 50M Stones? 38m (?) Otamendi?

I thought he was average at best, always with a major ricket in him
 
If he joins them hope he crumbles under the pressure. Wasn't ever mentally strong or a leader at the big stage.
 
They rejected £18m and we sold him for 5m

And apparently Leicester rejects £40m for drinkwater and we sold him for 1m

This is following Leverkusen getting more for Hernandez than we got when we sold him

Player in 'increases market value due to regular game time' shocker.
 
Btw, so many ex United players moving for big money this window. Hope we have put in sell on clauses in each sale we did.
 
Evans himself insisted he was horrible in his last season with us and LVG was right to sell him. No one should try and rewrite history and claim letting him go was a 'mistake'....

To be fair the quotes I saw was that Evans said it was right for him to go, not that it was right for LVG to sell him. We had plenty of defenders and so it really becomes a dealers choice if you prefer Rojo or Evans.

It's second hand information but according to Martin O'Neill, Fergie couldn't believe we sold Evans either - http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/sir-alex-ferguson-van-gaal-10676283
 
They rejected £18m and we sold him for 5m

And apparently Leicester rejects £40m for drinkwater and we sold him for 1m

This is following Leverkusen getting more for Hernandez than we got when we sold him


You forgot Michael Keane looking a good signing for Everyone at 30 million too.

Even Ashley Fletcher went for 6/7 million iirc.

And there is probably some more I am forgetting.
 
They rejected £18m and we sold him for 5m

And apparently Leicester rejects £40m for drinkwater and we sold him for 1m

This is following Leverkusen getting more for Hernandez than we got when we sold him

You can't compare prices now to how it was a few years ago. I mean even Bailly at £30m looks like a bargain now.
 
He'd be a good squad signing. His passing is great and he'd work well in a back three when required. If he moves to City then it's a sensible move for both parties. He's also better on the ball than Stones, for what it's worth.

Let's not start the whole "we shouldn't have sold him" lark, mind you. He was shite during his final season here and was shown the door as a result. If we were similarly ruthless with other players previously (and still?) at the club we'd probably be in a better position right now.

Agreed. He couldn't handle the pressure here. I think part of that is emphasised in the way he has done well with the pressure off at WBA.
 
Jonny was always an excellent passer, he'd suit gardiolas play I'm sure.

Not sure how I'd feel about it really. Obviously wouldn't want to see an ex player in their colours but it was our choice to move him on and he could have a shot at the big prizes again if he went there so couldn't begrudge him
 
I'd hope he does well and gets a move to a good club but not one where he'd help a title rival.

Like Arsenal.
 
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