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If Ole isn't allowed a holiday in the job, I don't see why Maguire should be allowed a night out... Fair is fair right?
SO what, what he does outside of football is frankly none of your business. Christ imagine being told you're not allowed to head out with friends because you had a bad day in the office. He's not at work.Players are obviously allowed to have lives outside football but jesus have some common sense, the captain that is supposed to lead by example in the middle of his worst form for us when the club are in freefall and HE has literally just cost us any chance at Watford AND we're only days 2 till our next game...I think he could have just settled for a night in.
Rashford gets shit from people for using his spare time to feed hungry kids. Pogba gets shit for just breathing. I think Maguire can take a bit of stick for burning the candle at both ends at the worst possible time.
in what universe maguire is better than varane? or you ment available ones?Maguire is our best central defender however he's in a really poor place right now. I don't have the answer for how to get him back to form. Hopefully the new manager that comes in gets the best out of him again. I think most of his problems are between the ears right now so I don't think benching will help that. We'll see though...
Highly ironic that you and others are posting this tweet/pic as an unassailable item of proof that double standards exist when it comes to footballers when said double standards are being dispelled by the very fact that this tweet exists and is garnering such outrage as a result. Couldn’t make it up.The point is valid though. If that was a picture of Pogba he would be getting so much abuse whether in here or through the media
No sorry. When your job is being an athlete where rest, recovery, what you eat and drink etc are all very important it is not the same as some random having a bad day at the office then going out to the pub after. You'd think when we have someone like Ronaldo here at 37 setting an example people would realise how important it is to be professional and make sacrifices.SO what, what he does outside of football is frankly none of your business. Christ imagine being told you're not allowed to head out with friends because you had a bad day in the office. He's not at work.
Opinions like this (bolded) are why players like Pogba get so much shit for no reason
in what universe maguire is better than varane? or you ment available ones?
Not everyone is Ronaldo. When have you seen anyone train and work as hard as Ronaldo? His life is football and he has always aimed to be the best.No sorry. When your job is being an athlete where rest, recovery, what you eat and drink etc are all very important it is not the same as some random having a bad day at the office then going out to the pub after. You'd think when we have someone like Ronaldo here at 37 setting an example people would realise how important it is to be professional and make sacrifices.
Not everyone is Ronaldo. When have you seen anyone train and work as hard as Ronaldo? His life is football and he has always aimed to be the best.
He's allowed to have fun and enjoy himself regardless of what's going on with his job. Calling him out for going out is quite pathetic and really really sad.
Sad, People like you need to take a look in the mirror and stop commenting out people and their personal lives, so outside of work.
Sorry not listening to your claptrap.
He is 29 in a few months.Maguire is our best central defender however he's in a really poor place right now. I don't have the answer for how to get him back to form. Hopefully the new manager that comes in gets the best out of him again. I think most of his problems are between the ears right now so I don't think benching will help that. We'll see though...
Really good for you that he is receiving stick then isn’t it? I don’t see the complaint?Players are obviously allowed to have lives outside football but jesus have some common sense, the captain that is supposed to lead by example in the middle of his worst form for us when the club are in freefall and HE has literally just cost us any chance at Watford AND we're only days 2 till our next game...I think he could have just settled for a night in.
Rashford gets shit from people for using his spare time to feed hungry kids. Pogba gets shit for just breathing. I think Maguire can take a bit of stick for burning the candle at both ends at the worst possible time.
You know what, in my office if some pillock made a mistake and cost the rest of the team their hardwork then told everyone they were clocking out and off to the pub, came in the next morning with a hangover, they'd get shit and people in the office would hate it. It really isn't as unusual as you're trying to paint it.Sad, People like you need to take a look in the mirror and stop commenting out people and their personal lives, so outside of work.
He is 29 in a few months.
He isn't going to ever be at the required standard. Time to cut out losses.
Sounds like a terrible work cultureYou know what, in my office if some pillock made a mistake and cost the rest of the team their hardwork then told everyone they were clocking out and off to the pub, came in the next morning with a hangover, they'd get shit and people in the office would hate it. It really isn't as unusual as you're trying to paint it.
Thats just not even remotely true.On form he's one of the best defenders in the world. I think his biggest problem is he listens to people like you too much. He needs to either ignore the fans or the fans need to get behind him. Being against him isn't helping the club. Pick him up when he's down and we will see a great player again...
Thats just not even remotely true.
Not if you have an agenda against him and only look for the bad. However, if you actually judge him without bias, on form he is in FACT one of the best in the world. This isn't an opinion. It's a fact.
There was a stat I heard on the commentary yesterday in the Liverpool vs Arsenal game:
"Van Dijk has never lost in the league in 53 games at Anfield"
It just got me thinking about Maguire and the fee we paid for him.
Did he?Getting a red card in an important match, Throwing captaincy arm band and finally going to a night club just after the match, He should never be our captain again
They do, but just barely, because there is actually a lot they need to abide with, even officially. Also, how they live those lives off the pitch is very telling. And if you think off the pitch behavior is not managed at top clubs, or if Fergie didn't pay attention to these, you clearly are lying to yourselfOh get a grip, players are allowed to have lives outside of football.
He hasn't proven to be in our top 2 CBs.Maguire is our best central defender however he's in a really poor place right now. I don't have the answer for how to get him back to form. Hopefully the new manager that comes in gets the best out of him again. I think most of his problems are between the ears right now so I don't think benching will help that. We'll see though...
I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Even with the few games he's had under his belt, you could tell Varane is miles head of Maguire and its not even close. Its no coincidence that we've only lost one of the 8 games he's started this season, contrast to Maguire who's pretty much been responsible for at least one opposition goal every game. We should be debating whether Maguire is a better option than Lindelof or Baily, he's not on Varane's level and will never be.In a universe where Varane hasn't played enough in our shirt to prove himself yet. I don't count what he did in a Real Madrid shirt. Prove it in a United shirt and then he will likely be our best central defender...
He's behind all of them right now, easily.I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Even with the few games he's had under his belt, you could tell Varane is miles head of Maguire and its not even close. Its no coincidence that we've only lost one of the 8 games he's started this season, contrast to Maguire who's pretty much been responsible for at least one opposition goal every game. We should be debating whether Maguire is a better option than Lindelof or Baily, he's not on Varane's level and will never be.
On current form absolutely. This is why I hope Varane is fit for Tuesday - I want to see how we fare with him + Lindelof or Baily going forward.He's behind all of them right now, easily.
Hes right, it's part of being professional. If you are doing an important job where others depend on you and take their job seriously, then you will make your employer and fellow employees angry if you are performing poorly because of partying.Sounds like a terrible work culture
Not even close.Not if you have an agenda against him and only look for the bad. However, if you actually judge him without bias, on form he is in FACT one of the best in the world. This isn't an opinion. It's a fact.
Yeah if it's BECAUSE of partying and whatever you're doing outside of work, but that's clearly not Maguires issue is it and you're absolutely delusional if you think him going out last night causes his bad performances.Hes right, it's part of being professional. If you are doing an important job where others depend on you and take their job seriously, then you will make your employer and fellow employees angry if you are performing poorly because of partying.