Haha, for £0.9 million less, City could have gotten Maguire. Dickheads!
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Haha, for £0.9 million less, City could have gotten Maguire. Dickheads!
Those are the conspiracies anyway.
People should rethink things if they think Evans at 35 is a better backup for us then Maguire.
He's shit Frank.
even if someone thought maguire was a "better" backup than evans, the fact remains that maguire will be absolutely horrendous in a high back line. He is slow (both running and making a decisive decision), gets constantly caught in no mans land because he finds himself in poor positions, and is so lethargic moving the ball/panics anytime he gets closed down. If i have the choice of two "trash" options ill at least take the one that isnt costing me 200k a week. The ideal situation would be to get rid of maguire and start bedding in a youth option or something to get training under the current group and learn from the veterans
We need another conventional centre back to have four in the squad to cope with with the Sunday/Thursday game pattern through until February at least - unless we get completely knocked out of Europe in the group stage. Thilo Kehrer is currently the fourth, but he's a hybrid of a full back and centre back.
We are also penned in a little in terms of shopping abroad because we are near the limit on non-homegrown players , at least until we sell Vlasic and Scamacca to Serie A clubs.
A couple of our experienced homegrown players - Cresswell and Antonio - are at least 50/50 to leave this summer. Some others are just making up the numbers in the 25, and whilst we have a very good youth team, only one of them (Divin Mubama) is currently looking likely to be a feature in the squad from the outset this season
That's why there's a seeming obsession with players like Maguire, Barnes, McTominay, Ward-Prowse etc.West Ham need to get a couple through the door who are homegrown. It isn't just Moyes being Moyes, whoever the manager is they will need some homegrown players.
It isn’t about whether Evans is a better player than Maguire at this stage of his career and more so Evans is better suited to how ETH wants to play whilst being happy to play when needed whereas Maguire has it in his head he should start and seems oblivious to his shortcomings.
Why don’t you just pay us 60m then? I am sure it would be enough for Maguire AND McTominay combined. And just imagine the extent to which you get reinforced.
We also have another brilliant homegrown defender for sale in Brandon Williams, and - if by any chance you may want a homegrown goalkeeper - Dean Henderson. I would think a bid of 85m will get you all four players mentioned
Yes, I've seen Brandon Williams
We wouldn't want to deprive you of such a unique talent. Fred and McTominay? £50m , maybe a tad higher, and you might be on.
Yes, I've seen Brandon Williams
Fred and McTominay? £50m , maybe a tad higher, and you might be on.
Think £50m is more than fair value for them
I thought you were only interested in homegrown. If Fred is also of interest, then yes, I would think 50, maybe 52m for the entire McFred is fair
More than fair,however club probably have crazy ideas of how much they can get for them
Everton now in the lead to sign Maguire.
Sorry I don’t keep up with sources so don’t know if it’s reliable or not, but is on bbc, from here: https://www.footballinsider247.com/...-and-tottenham-in-race-to-sign-harry-maguire/
Sorry I don’t keep up with sources so don’t know if it’s reliable or not, but is on bbc, from here: https://www.footballinsider247.com/...-and-tottenham-in-race-to-sign-harry-maguire/
I’m very confident that come the end of the window he will have found a new club.
Sorry for the late reply, mate. It's a bit difficult having just three messages per day and answer immediately on that topic. Once my message gets approved, the current topic is already gone :/
I agree with you, Pavard would be someone I would like to see as he could also play the three back line but I think ETH prefers the classic four man formation. Now with Gvardiol moving to City, Pep will have a monstrous three back line (if he wants to keep this formation) with Gvardiol, Dias and Ake/Akanji.
Actually, we paid 80 mio. £ for Harry, and unfortunately still keep the record amount for a defender. Not something I am proud of. I'd hoped City paid more for Gvardiol as initial expected. For me, Gvardiol is worth every penny - a classic Pep player who is physical, versatile and strong on the ball.
Exactly! Maguire is just not suited to the style ETH wants to play. He is not fast enough, can not keep the ball under pressure, is easy targetable. Just look at the mistakes he made when he played last season, it cost us some important games (e.g. Sevilla). He is just not up to this pressure type of football ETH wants to play. Apart from that, he is such an expensive player to have on the bench and we must get rid of him. I have not heard any rumours since West Ham bid so I really hope we can manage a reasaonable fee even if it is 20 mio. £.
not sure about the reliability of source, but having bidding war is great. We have already rejected 20m hopefully Everton comes up 25m and Westham goes to 30m and eventually Everton signs him for 35m. Could it happen or is it too early in the morning to be dreaming
Given it's getting close to the season starting now I'd just get rid for 25 million. Same with Henderson, cut the cost down and get the wages off the wage bill.
We don't need the baggage of either player hanging round the club anymore.
We don't need the baggage of either player hanging round the club anymore.
Id straight swap Maguire for Branthwaite, left footed as well so would a nice balance for backup.
I think neither should be here. However, Maguire has certainly outlasted his welcome and his performances over the last 2 years have been awful.
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What does the fee have anything to do with him?
He’ll still pick up £200k a week (even if we subsidise some of that)
Clearly an ego thing……
Or clearly a rubbish tweet
Bendtner levels of self confidence... which is great in his case..
He was/is a really good defender in the right team.. Just doesnt work in the way we play..
The same way De Gea was really good till he wasnt.. De Gea still didn't come out of the box so he doesnt have a video compilation similar to maguire..
He will be be the best defender when he moves to pretty much any team (outside the top 7-8).. The one thing that couldve hurt him wouldve been his confidence being dented after the last couple of season.. but that probably wont be an issue..
He was/is a really good defender in the right team.. Just doesnt work in the way we play..
The same way De Gea was really good till he wasnt.. De Gea still didn't come out of the box so he doesnt have a video compilation similar to maguire..
He will be be the best defender when he moves to pretty much any team (outside the top 7-8).. The one thing that couldve hurt him wouldve been his confidence being dented after the last couple of season.. but that probably wont be an issue..
Agree with that
Yep. The internet bullying of Maguire can be quite sad to watch at times, no matter his wages and PR missteps.
Alan Nixon is claiming that West Ham are further down the line with Maguire and McTominay than is generally being reported.
Ooh that's good news (if true). So long as we aren't getting fleeced on the price that will be good for all concerned. Presume medical records wouldn't be shared without the players or their representatives consent, so they must be ok with the prospect of WHU.
Let’s be Frank, he’s shit. No point trying to make out he isn’t.
Fingers doubly crossed on this!!
Obviously isn’t though is he, he’ll do well at a West Ham type team. He doesn’t suit our style at all. It’s just lazy to say he’s shit.
Pleaaasseee
Moyes will become our unsung hero if it happens.
We've won 12 of his last 13 starts I think.
Ed Woodward should be criminally prosecuted for giving Harry Maguire a 6 year contract on £200k per week. We won't be able to properly fix centre-back situation for two more years because of this...
An ode to Moyes
Moyes with your ginger hair
And you’re Golem stare
You once cause us despair
Only now for you to repair
All is forgiven
With the money you have given
And taking these unloved pieces
adding to our waining resources
You’d better stay out of Greece
There maybe trouble with the police
This is all probably untrue
So actually Moyes feck you.
Moyes with your ginger hair
And you’re Golem stare
You once cause us despair
Only now for you to repair
All is forgiven
With the money you have given
And taking these unloved pieces
adding to our waining resources
You’d better stay out of Greece
There maybe trouble with the police
This is all probably untrue
So actually Moyes feck you.
Its just plain wrong. Has he even been an £80m defender? No. Has he been a good player for us at times? Yes. Is he still a good player for us with our current style of play? Not really.
Hes been a model professional for the most part and his wages are not his fault. No idea why some people have such an issue with him. Hes not a Pogba or a Martial who just turn up when they fancy it. Hes always worked for the team and tried his best. Hes the result of our poor management and recruitment but thats not his fault.
Had strong periods in his first couple of seasons, then put in arguably one of the worst ever seasons for a top half Premier league defender. Then last year was a bench write off.
That said, you have to get more than 20m back for an England starting defender you bought for 80m.
Hope we find a solution around 35m or so soon. Without am wage contribution. That'd be a superb result.
That said, you have to get more than 20m back for an England starting defender you bought for 80m.
Hope we find a solution around 35m or so soon. Without am wage contribution. That'd be a superb result.