Maguire | he stays!

I think people are worried too much about him not leaving and i'm not sure how reliable that source is that he wants to stay. Gareth Southgate has already said he has to start playing more otherwise his England place is under threat, he's sadly not well liked by a lot of his own fanbase and he probably is aware of this, and he's also a 5th choice centre back at this point. Simply has to go if he's serious about football.
There’s probably a spot for him at Leicester, now they’ve had a clear out?
 
If we can't sell him he stays, not much else can be done. For himself though he needs to move to another club Southgate can't keep picking him if he's a bit part player. Unless he feels his England career is done ? For him and Utd he needs to move on. Better for both.
 
If he ends up staying for another year, then ETH really should at least drop him as captain, being that he’s a fifth choice cb.
 
I sort of understand his desire to stay here. It’s Man United, he isn’t going to get any better and he’s got a good contract.

But it is in his best interest to leave the club and give himself a chance to cleanse himself of the toxicity that has beseeched him in recent years.

In a normal year we wouldn’t have a lot of say in the matter but this year is an international tournament year so that can be used to get our way. If we go ahead and sign the defender that we want, and on top of that, leave him off the tour in July and make it clear to him that he won’t be considered for the match day squad, then we are putting him in a position whereby to stay at United would mean sacrificing his England career. Which I don’t think he’d do.

There is two problems with this on contrary which would be a) can we afford to buy another defender and take on Maguire’s wages in the event that we don’t get our way and b) the morality of this move.
 
Can you imagine the toxicity if Maguire decides to stay!

He needs to told that he's 4th/5th choice CB and no longer captain. Bringing him on 10 mins to go to take captains armband is stupid.

I can't remember any other footballer that played for us since I started supporting that made me so nervous when hes on the pitch.
 
Loan with a mandatory purchase would work, but then what is the point.

Newcastle can't splash masses amounts of cash around owing to FFP. They can kick the can down the road by agreeing to pay the fee next year. say £5mil loan fee this year then £25mil mandatory fee the year after that, along with having CL revenue behind them to take into account would actually be a good deal for all still.
 
Newcastle can't splash masses amounts of cash around owing to FFP. They can kick the can down the road by agreeing to pay the fee next year. say £5mil loan fee this year then £25mil mandatory fee the year after that, along with having CL revenue behind them to take into account would actually be a good deal for all still.

We're losing some transfer fee to use this Summer. But that's still better than he's here stinking out the place, I guess.
 
Please see wages of our current 1st team squad.
exactly but there is rumours of 10m pay off so that should help a move. including that anything north of 14.9m and we are in profit. Maguire price tag i see is 25m
 
Or they can strip the captaincy, refuse to register him in the squad for any tournament and force him to train away from the first team.

Plenty of things that people CAN do, but play stupid games win stupid prizes as they say.

Yeah, although a club really shouldn’t do that unless it’s for disciplinary issues. A player adhering to his contract should not be ostracised.
 
Definitely the loan bit.

Counter them with a swap deal for Barella...
You want our negotiators to try and out-tight-arse the Italians? That’s ambitious. We’d ask to loan Barella but end up paying £125M for him
 
I'm trying (very) hard to be a "glass half full" type....it's the hope that's going to get me!
You’re a better man than me! :lol:
I start at the ‘comedy bad’ level and hope it goes up to plain awful
 
You’re a better man than me! :lol:
I start at the ‘comedy bad’ level and hope it goes up to plain awful
Trust me, it's probably not worth it for me to keep fighting to remain on the optimistic side :lol: surely it can't be good for my health to keep on this positive face, against overwhelming evidence to the contrary!

I'll join the pessimists club soon enough, i'm sure! Save a seat.
 
Trust me, it's probably not worth it for me to keep fighting to remain on the optimistic side :lol: surely it can't be good for my health to keep on this positive face, against overwhelming evidence to the contrary!

I'll join the pessimists club soon enough, i'm sure! Save a seat.
Nah you keep positive, there’s enough miserable hysterical feckers on this forum. It’s a much better mindset
 
If only Southgate moved back into club management he could make him his 1st signing being as he loves him so much
 
If we needed an extra reason to sell, his retrial in Greece has been scheduled for 7th February. He doesn't have to be there but clearly it's going to be a distraction for him.
 
It's the "I'm breaking up with you" "No, I think we'll stay together" bit, which unfortunately is possible here..