We seriously fecked up in both the transfer fee and salary we paid to Maguire. It's caused us a ton of problems to get rid. I think we just have to pay it and get a fresh start.
Maguire | he stays!
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"Glazers will remain minority stakeholders"
Is Mings crocked then? Excellent news for us if this is true because they are acting out of desperation.
It's so ridiculous to see and why I have to practice discernment when engaging on certain players. Some blatant negative agenda posts at times.
We will see tomorrow if “everything is agreed”. If it is, we can’t risk injury, so he should be out of the match day squad
Harsh, he signed a contract with us where we guaranteed him £X for a set period. He’s not wrong to want to hold us to it, as annoying as it is.
It should either be 30m with no payoff, and Maguire can seek his cover from West Ham, or 35m and a pay off.
30m AND a payoff isn't that great is it?
30m AND a payoff isn't that great is it?
Anything above zero (after payoff) is already good
I think you are being very optimistic there. I’m no accountant but his fee was amortised over 6 years, so he costs 13.3m per year on the books. So say £26m still to pay, if you add the £6m pound payoff that puts the club at minus £2m on the books over the next two years with him gone. You could say they are saving £14m in wages if he were to stay (which I think he will).
The amoritization is for bookkeeping purposes only, he carries a charge of 26M for FFP purposes but the full fee has already long since been paid.
Why is it shameless? This is standard practice in football
Hence why I said “on the books”. It doesn’t really matter whether it has been paid or is in instalments anyway, all that matters is FFP. If that wasn’t the case we wouldn’t be waiting to sell to go for Pavard/Todibo.
Properly bizarre the way some here are taking one mans career decision personally. 
The way Villa played yesterday, with the high line, he is last person they need as cover
Hilarious read the last 2 pages 
The joy !
Did they not just sign a LCB this summer in Pau Torres?
Keep my CB's name out of your (negative) posts. The guy is world class and is worth at least £50m.
No we're not - his replacement will cost a similar amount
Yes but his replacement might be good.
Good and younger, so we get more years from him to spread the fee alongside a greater chance of recouping a higher percentage of money when it’s time to sell.
"Ten Hag: For Maguire, he has to fight for a place in the team. He has the potential to become a world-class defender, he is the best defender for England, so why not be the best with us? But he has to prove it"
Telegraph saying West Ham are confident
Erik ten Hag says Harry Maguire would be better off leaving Manchester United if he is not confident enough to battle for a first-team spot.
The United boss is adamant he thinks Maguire can be an important part of his plans.
However, after Ten Hag took the captaincy off the 30-year-old, United then accepted a £30m bid from West Ham for him.
"He has the ability to be a top-class centre-back," said Ten Hag.
"He is the best for England so why shouldn't he be the best for us?
"But he has to prove it. When he is not confident enough to fight then he has to go, then he has to make a decision. But I'm happy with him."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66491431
The United boss is adamant he thinks Maguire can be an important part of his plans.
However, after Ten Hag took the captaincy off the 30-year-old, United then accepted a £30m bid from West Ham for him.
"He has the ability to be a top-class centre-back," said Ten Hag.
"He is the best for England so why shouldn't he be the best for us?
"But he has to prove it. When he is not confident enough to fight then he has to go, then he has to make a decision. But I'm happy with him."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66491431
I thought Maguire is being sold, what are these sataments from ETH? isnt it too late for Maguire to fight for a place when we already accepted a bid?
Erik, shut the feck up.
Could the comments indicate a possibility that we’ve hit a wall in our pursuits of a replacement?
He really should have said "he's shit, I wouldnt buy him if I were you"
Why the hell would Ten Hag say this?
So far, he’s never said that any particular player was shit - he only says good things about them.
Its cool to say those things mid season but in this moment? We have a deal agreed with West Ham, why bother answering questions about him?
a simple..
"Maguire is in the process of leaving us, there are still a few things to sort out"
would have been enough.
Exactly. It's his default shtick and to be fair it's mostly worked for him.
Praised Martial and got whatever performances he was able to out of a perma crock, low on confidence player. Same for Rashford.
Praised Ronaldo despite dropping him and came out looking as THE boss of Man Utd who set the standards.
Praised De Gea and got whatever performances he was able out of someone who is clearly limited and has been on the decline for years. Then bought a new keeper.
He just says what he thinks, I believe, and doesn’t really give a shit about the consequences.
ETH says a lot of things in the press, dodges quite a few questions, and generally gives very little away re: what he actually thinks. Best to look at what he does.
First thing he does when the lads come back in preseason is call Maguire in and strip him of his captaincy. What other interpretation is there than: mate, you're not in my plans: I'd rather play a left back ahead of you.
Also: Maguire is 'one of the captains' but tell you what, let McTomminay captain the side ahead of you during preseason, shan't we?
I'd bet my house that what ETH says in public isn't what he says in private. Maguire knows where he stands, even if we on the outside can only guess from the manager's actions.
Wait is this for real? He is on 400k a week?
No. He's earning 190k.
Or potentially sign someone worse
A club like United shouldn't be signing players based on what they might be potentially worth though
But he hasn’t accepted terms, Maguire thinks he’s bigger than West Ham, if Villa are sniffing which is the rumour United will squeeze £35-40m out of them and they can pay his wages or get much closer than West Ham.