Maguire | he stays!

I hope we pay him to feck off, and soon.

His presence is a full on downer and either he is either completely oblivious to this, or is fully aware and doesn’t care how publicly embarrassed he gets as long as he gets more money.

Yeah Ten Hag said he values him etc. but he said the exact same about De Gea and Ronaldo. Actions speak louder than words and he’s had to resort to practically humiliating the guy because he either won’t take the hint, or simply doesn’t care.
 
If he spends another two years on the bench he'll lose more money in the long term. No one is going to pay someone who barely played for years a decent contract even if he's on a free. While with West ham now he get at least a 4 years deal and he gets to actually play, be a captain, and play for England. Running down his contract would a very stupid move for him even for someone with his IQ.
 
Someone said:
If he spends another two years on the bench he'll lose more money in the long term. No one is going to pay someone who barely played for years a decent contract even if he's on a free. While with West ham now he get at least a 4 years deal and he gets to actually play, be a captain, and play for England. Running down his contract would a very stupid move for him even for someone with his IQ.
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He has to look at DDG, recent Golden Glove winner and undisputed starter for United for twelve seasons but no one serious in football is touching him even with a barge pole. If he scuppers this move he will upset a fan base that already hates him, ETH could freeze him out and besides having his contract fully paid up he won't have much of a career to speak of after this.
 
Cloud7 said:
:lol:

I know this is 100% true and this is the case for all transfers but this is the first time I've ever seen it worded like this
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Haha. Occupational hazard. And I really hope he decides to move to free up funds and also to avoid the drama of confrontation with some of our fans.
 
Why is everyone freaking out here? He will leave but only after we have a clear idea of who we'll sign to replace him.

I'd expect him to be on the bench tomorrow and probably the deal to be announced towards the end of the week.
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Yeah, as if he's on the bread line. This argument always grates, he's not a Championship player, he's earning a million a month approximately.
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And it’s equally as bemusing when people can’t understand that rich people want to be even richer
 
sugar_kane said:
At this point it’s reminding me of the Seinfeld episode where George won’t quit his job even though his employers are doing absolutely everything they can to drive him out.
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:lol:. And the one when he tries to get fired, reminds me of JM with us :lol:
 
The manager doesnt want him, the players dont want him, the fans dont want him. The national side is starting to see for the first time in years some promising young centre backs coming through that could threaten his place, so he needs to be palying regularly if he wants to play in the next Euros, which age wise could well be his last major tournment as well.

Unless he really is that deluded that he has a future here, the only reason for him to want to stay is a monetary one.....or he thinks a bigger club will come in for him, which isnt looking likely at the moment.

A £6m pay off pretty much balances the wage drop for the next 18months so he is only losing money in possibly the last couple of years og his career....and who knows that is pretty much after the next Euros....he could even do a big mov to Saudi afte that or America.

Not sure he actually loses out much financially moving and moving is the best thing for his career in my opinion, let alone the obvious that the club and fans want shot of him
 
King7Eric said:
Why is everyone freaking out here? He will leave but only after we have a clear idea of who we'll sign to replace him.

I'd expect him to be on the bench tomorrow and probably the deal to be announced towards the end of the week.
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You must be new here :lol:

Standard caf reaction to a negative tweet. They instantly believe it and start getting personal with the player.

Maguire will leave and join West Ham. These things just take a little time.
 
Why are people upset now? When he was signed many fans said that they love our new transfer policy; signing players who really, really, really want to be here.

Well.....be careful what you wish, i guess. :)
 
I shouldn’t be surprised at the fact that his shitness extends to being shit at leaving the club too, but I am.
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Expecting a footballer to want to play football shocker.
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Yes why won't he just move to a lesser club on less money because some fans want him to.

It's funny that players get horrific abuse for leaving or staying, depending on which way the fans' mood swings. For all the abuse fans dish out to players for lack of loyalty, they're even more guilty of this.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Why are people upset now? When he was signed many fans said that they love our new transfer policy; signing players who really, really, really want to be here.

Well.....be careful what you wish, i guess. :)
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It would be interesting to see the comments when he signed. I was probably one of those posters :D
 
This is going to happen the same day the club sale goes through. It’ll be a double announcement.
 
golden_blunder said:
It’s like watching Homes in the Sun
“What’s your budget?”
“200k”
After some looking they’ve found the holiday home of their dreams
“So how much do you want to pay for the home of your dreams? It’s on for 190k”
“110k on the basis that we want to replace the kitchen, bathroom, flooring, tiling and oh can they leave the furniture?”
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Being fairly recently retired, I find myself watching that program more often than I’d like. I get a bit annoyed with the cheeky offers they put in………even more annoyed when they’re accepted .
 
RedRJ said:
Being fairly recently retired, I find myself watching that program more often than I’d like. I get a bit annoyed with the cheeky offers they put in………even more annoyed when they’re accepted .
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My wife and I love that show but like you get really annoyed at the outright cheekiness of some of the bids. Why say you have x budget if you’re not prepared to spend x budget if you find the ones you really like? We’re convinced some of them are just there for a free jolly
 
RedRJ said:
Being fairly recently retired, I find myself watching that program more often than I’d like. I get a bit annoyed with the cheeky offers they put in………even more annoyed when they’re accepted .
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My retirement home is quite small: 6' x 3' x 6'. A bit damp in the winter but the neighbours are quiet.
 
golden_blunder said:
My wife and I love that show but like you get really annoyed at the outright cheekiness of some of the bids. Why say you have x budget if you’re not prepared to spend x budget if you find the ones you really like? We’re convinced some of them are just there for a free jolly
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Oh definitely.
 

King7Eric said:
Why is everyone freaking out here? He will leave but only after we have a clear idea of who we'll sign to replace him.

I'd expect him to be on the bench tomorrow and probably the deal to be announced towards the end of the week.
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Because hating on Maguire is something they find fun.

It's equal parts weird and fascinating to witness.

There's actual news that personal terms have been agreed, but they'd rather whip themselves into a frenzy over the idea they haven't been.
 
bringbackbebe said:
As much as I hate Maguire as the next ignorant CAF poster, I think some of the posts here are truly ridiculous. Expecting him to take a 40% paycut just because we were stupid enough to hand out this ludicrous contract is lack of professionalism beyond belief. Imagine if this happened to you or your loved ones at work?

It is perfectly within Maguire's rights to say no to lower terms and I'd fully support his decision, although I'd never want him playing for our club again.
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Were you trying to be ironic with this statement given how ridiculous it is to equate a footballers dilemma to what someone’s loved ones would face at work?
 
zaafi said:
If we've accepted their bid, and personal terms are agreed, what's the hold up?
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We are probably waiting to make sure we have a replacement first, and possibly in case there is a freak set of injuries before tomorrow nights match.
 
Jippy said:
Yes why won't he just move to a lesser club on less money because some fans want him to.

It's funny that players get horrific abuse for leaving or staying, depending on which way the fans' mood swings. For all the abuse fans dish out to players for lack of loyalty, they're even more guilty of this.
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It's not even comparable, fans and clubs are significantly more hypocritical and disloyal.
 
Find it hard to believe there's a hold up in his move to West Ham considering we're at the stage where we're sending bids in for Pavard
 
zaafi said:
If we've accepted their bid, and personal terms are agreed, what's the hold up?
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United are negotiating a pay off with Maguire for the last 2 years of his contract given there is a significant gap in what west ham have offfered in terms of wages and his current United contract.
 
Jippy said:
Yes why won't he just move to a lesser club on less money because some fans want him to.

It's funny that players get horrific abuse for leaving or staying, depending on which way the fans' mood swings. For all the abuse fans dish out to players for lack of loyalty, they're even more guilty of this.
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Because he's apparently a determined athlete. Regular playing time is more of a precursor to overall career earnings, than not playing.
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Because he's apparently a determined athlete. Regular playing time is more of a precursor to overall career earnings, than not playing.
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Not sure it helps that ETH says things like he's in contention for Monday and has previously said he has a role at the club. Maybe Maguire does think he has an outside chance of his forcing his way back into the team, particularly if Varane gets injured.
 
Jippy said:
Not sure it helps that ETH says things like he's in contention for Monday and has previously said he has a role at the club. Maybe Maguire does think he has an outside chance of his forcing his way back into the team, particularly if Varane gets injured.
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Be a big issue if he sat in that press conference and said something along the lines of,

“No, we have a process and he is not part of the process aye, he is a good player but he is not wanted here and the sooner he leaves the better.”

Imagine the media storm that would cause. Maybe behind closed doors he’s been told he is 5th choice and it would be best for his career and England hopes if he moves on, as unless injuries befall the other CB’s his minutes will be limited.

Can’t speak for him but I’d imagine most people fortunate enough to get paid to play football would want to do just that and play football.
 
Giggsy13 said:
United are negotiating a pay off with Maguire for the last 2 years of his contract given there is a significant gap in what west ham have offfered in terms of wages and his current United contract.
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Absolutely shameless if true. Let him rot in the reserves for all I care.

If he doesn’t care about playing for Engurland then so be it. He can be our Winston Bogarde.
 
samlee86 said:
Absolutely shameless if true. Let him rot in the reserves for all I care.

If he doesn’t care about playing for Engurland then so be it. He can be our Winston Bogarde.
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Understand the frustration. But the alternative is he finds a way to feature and stay longer if this doesn’t get resolved soon.

Akin to cutting our losses, let’s sink another 5m on this debacle and get him on his way. I just couldn’t bear this mistake-prone player featuring in a United match again.
 
windycityfan said:
Understand the frustration. But the alternative is he finds a way to feature and stay longer if this doesn’t get resolved soon.

Akin to cutting our losses, let’s sink another 5m on this debacle and get him on his way. I just couldn’t bear this mistake-prone player featuring in a United match again.
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Considering he barely played last season and was a walking disaster when did play. I cant see him featuring for us ever again.

Luke Shaw, who had never played CB before last season, was ahead of him in the pecking order and was levels above him in terms of performance.

The fact he wants us to pay him to play for a rival PL club ruins any good will he had from United fans.

I can see him being massively boo’d if he ever plays at OT again.
 
Jersey Heel said:
This is going to happen the same day the club sale goes through. It’ll be a double announcement.
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I can see the press release now.

One of the oldest sporting institutions - a household name synonymous with success - has finally been sold.

He leaves having captained United to EFL Cup glory earlier this year.

We also sold the club.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Be a big issue if he sat in that press conference and said something along the lines of,

“No, we have a process and he is not part of the process aye, he is a good player but he is not wanted here and the sooner he leaves the better.”

Imagine the media storm that would cause. Maybe behind closed doors he’s been told he is 5th choice and it would be best for his career and England hopes if he moves on, as unless injuries befall the other CB’s his minutes will be limited.

Can’t speak for him but I’d imagine most people fortunate enough to get paid to play football would want to do just that and play football.
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Fair point, but he could fudge it along the lines of 'Harry's future is still being decided, we've accepted West Ham's bid etc...'

I'm sure he wants to play, but depends how big a pay cut he's potentially being asked to take I guess.
 
Real lost a CB to ACL so we can send them Henderson and Harold too. Double deal, good price.
 
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