We should fly this over the Britannia on Boxing Day, we'd need a fleet of planes but it'd be worth it!
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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We should fly this over the Britannia on Boxing Day, we'd need a fleet of planes but it'd be worth it!
I'd give "Big Winston" a few games up top and see if he can score.
Panic is setting in I agree, things are bad and getting worse under LvG, he's lost the crowd and I think the players, on top of that it seems Pep is off to City and Ancelotti to Bayern, so suddenly the walls are closing in and the options thinning out, but running to a poisonous narcissist who has all the same traits as LvG without any of his good points is not the answer.
I couldn't sum up the situation any better so I am not even going to bother. I don't however think Mourinho shares the same traits as LvG at all. Mourinho likes his teams to site deep and soak up pressure whereas LvG likes his teams to have control of the game. Both visions can lead to boring games but at least one is done with the intention of dominating whereas the other is done with the intention of destroying superior teams. Other than that, I think we feel the same about the situation so there is nothing more to be said really.
This is a compelling post. Print it and put it in front of the board and LVG would be as good as gone in the morning. I'm dead serious.
Wow. 20 odd pages to read through 
. I was one of the 'evaluate at the end of the season' votes before the Norwich game. However after that I have changed, he needs to go now. Nothing is changing, the players look like they have given up and we are slowly slipping down the table. It's not good enough. In reality he should never have been appointed anyway but as he was the best available candidate he got the job.
I'm not sure who comes in for him but he has to go.
. I was one of the 'evaluate at the end of the season' votes before the Norwich game. However after that I have changed, he needs to go now. Nothing is changing, the players look like they have given up and we are slowly slipping down the table. It's not good enough. In reality he should never have been appointed anyway but as he was the best available candidate he got the job.I'm not sure who comes in for him but he has to go.
I'd be more forgiving if most of our problems weren't because he created them himself.
Our attack is our biggest problem right now and who decided to sell most of our attacking options? You can debate the situations of the players sold, but it's the managers job to keep the players happy and motivated, especially ones that he would need.
Then the most annoying thing is we'll have to listen to him complain about the injuries and the English winter fixtures and use tgat as an excuse for the poor results. He complained about the schedule last season, a quick word with Giggs would tell him that injuries are par for the course at United, he added Champions League football and hopefully he'd of anticipated us doing well in the cups. His response to adding more games than last season was to trim the squad. How does that make sense?
Our attack is our biggest problem right now and who decided to sell most of our attacking options? You can debate the situations of the players sold, but it's the managers job to keep the players happy and motivated, especially ones that he would need.
Then the most annoying thing is we'll have to listen to him complain about the injuries and the English winter fixtures and use tgat as an excuse for the poor results. He complained about the schedule last season, a quick word with Giggs would tell him that injuries are par for the course at United, he added Champions League football and hopefully he'd of anticipated us doing well in the cups. His response to adding more games than last season was to trim the squad. How does that make sense?
Pretty much mate, my biggest concern would be the development of the young players, as one thing LvG has done is give them chances, Mourinho and youth players don't go together.
I changed my vote. Watching us this season is awful and we seem to be heading backwards.
To use your analogy, think the crap is filling the bowl fast and someone needs to flush.
anyone have the statistics on this from a month ago for comparison?
I desperately want him to go, but I have a sneaky feeling he'll still be manager when we play Chelsea. After that, who knows?
Only one sub yesterday, what was with that?
That indeed mate!
It's been a long wait but the footballing gods have surely fed him enough rope by now?
If Van Gaal cared at all for the club he would acknowledge that he has lost control of the situation.
If Van Gaal cared at all for the club he would acknowledge that he has lost control of the situation.
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I honestly have been getting the same feeling over the last month or so. The players are too nice. Even if we don't get a decision in our favor we just shrug our shoulders and carry on. When the opponents hack a player down, no one from our team stands up. No one cares to be in the referee's face. I understand that it is not the most pleasing sight but you need that passion from time to time. You need to show that fight to win at all costs. Fergie would give an official a bollocking if something didn't go our way when he felt we were wronged but here LVG sits on his arse the whole game and looks fkng disinterested.
Van Gaal's propensity to put his certainly put his own sham of a philosophy ahead of common sense would certainly support that. So he'll need a shove from some quarter or other, likely from a sponsor if Woodward is going to sit up and take notice.
Even during the last weeks of his time at the club Moyes' United could still show a degree of fighting spirit, whereas this supposedly great coach has gradually removed any semblance of such from the players. Eighteen months in the job and we're weaker than before if anything.
In 360 minutes of football at Old Trafford we managed 7 shots on target.
Still not sacked, can't wait. Tears of joy will roll down my cheeks.
He's still there then
this alone is worth the sacking
I hope to hear he is gone soon.
I changed my vote.
Made for TV horror documentary film. The Notebook II starring Louis van Gaal with Ryan Giggs and Frans Hoek.
Made for TV horror documentary film. The Notebook II starring Louis van Gaal with Ryan Giggs and Frans Hoek.
I hate the way United play now. It's really bad to watch. But if you remember, LVG had said that his type of football is where the player has to think and play and not just play blindly.
It's very very clear that players like Rooney, Valencia, Depay, Jones are not suited to use their brains and play with instinct. This is where LVG made a mistake. He wasted his time such players expecting them to adapt to his philosophy. Played Rooney and kept Herrera out who is an excellent footballer who like to take risks.
I feel bad for LVG he is an excellent manager but maybe the players just haven't adapted well to his philosophy and LVG hasn't given any rope to the players to play freely and take risks. I hope he corrects his mistakes and at least gets to go out with his head held high at the end of the season by getting United to the CL next season at the very least.
United were motoring along nicely (though playing unattractive football) and fans talking of a title challenge, until your mini injury crisis and now you've gone winless for six on the bounce. I seriously doubt the United board will panic because of that. Your league position is still good and you are 3rd favourites for the EL. I simply can't see United not sticking with him until the end of the season. It would mean the board would've panicked in as similar a style as the fans are doing now. Your next 2 games are Stoke (A) and Chelsea (H) though. It could get worse before it improves.
You should not gloat though because you are still 5 points off this very uninspiring version of United. Go figure how bad you've been so far.
Got up early in anticipation of hearing the news that 'LVG has parted company with Manchester United', back to bed then !
I had the same hope.
The problem is we all hate the football under LVG, even when we win the football is poor but he gets by on results.
As soon as he starts losing the results the tide turns quickly as there isn't any other redeeming feature.
The other point is he is only here for three years anyway, so if he isn't moving the club forward quickly there isn't much point in him staying.
In his tenure so far I don't really think we've improved. He has spent 250mil and created a team that is barely, if at all better than what he inherited.
Pathetic response to a post which contained not an iota of gloating.
Same.
Just saw that. What a joke that guy is.
He should have brought Morgan on to be with Carrick and taken Rooney off and slotted Ander in there. I would have have Pereira on as well. Gone for it. Instead Big Mike ends the game up front. Where was Powell?
I think Powell is injured
Would pay good money for his notepad after he's gone just to see what shite he has been scribbling down all this time.
Exactly this. Its like we have to modes...either boring as feck, well drilled, organized but soul destroing machine or chaotic which provides semi-entertating games.
Whilst I'd agree that in terms of playing style United are not demonstrating that which the fans crave, everyone was crowing until recently on the improvement in defence - and isn't that the basis of all good teams ? Mourinho's teams for example have always used that as the foundation for their success. Hasn't the downturn in the defence been predicated by your injury record ?
With regard to the attack then there are obvious mistakes such as selling Di Maria (though I'm not sure there was much option there) and Hernandez when you hadn't secured the players you were after. Hence the last minute panic buy of Martial, who you'd been watching for a while but were probably not going to move for for another season or two. I'm not sure whether that error can be laid squarely on LvGs shoulders without at least a large part also going to Woodward.
Fact is choice is limited at the moment anyway. Mourinho (who has always been despised, though respected, at OT) and Giggs who one can say is clearly not ready to take over one of the most desirable positions in football. I seriously doubt the board will heed any calls for termination of LvGs contract, until the end of the season.
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