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I am actually starting to worry he might be here next season.
Would be seriously depressing going into the first game with him as manager.
Would be seriously depressing going into the first game with him as manager.
I'm shocked. If he is still here next season we should direct our attention to Ed, I doubt his skin is as thick as Van Gaals.
Forget all that, the fact of the matter is he should of handed most of that back after the state of this season. We are the most boring and predictable team in Europe. I wish we could play Faroe Islands, I bet he would be out thought tactically by the postman an an accountant.
Of the three -- Greizmann, Hummels and Kante -- Hummels seems to me to be the one well beyond our reach. When Bayern calls, you answer the call. But he doesn't seem impossibly out of our reach.
Greizmann is slightly easier, as United truly is still a step up from Atletico, the reality of everything notwithstanding. Not a slam dunk, but doable.
Kante should be a slam dunk.
The hardest nut to crack is Rooney, given his insane contract that no club outside of China could possibly be interested in. Of the four players I've mentioned selling Rooney would be by far the hardest task. It's a pretty safe bet we're stuck with him for at least another season.
But your point about LVG being a disincentive for top level players is a valid point. It may be that sacking LVG is a necessary precondition to have any hope of landing players of the very highest (well, below Messi, Suarez, Neymar and Ronaldo) quality. And if we do as I believe we're going to do, sack LVG and upgrade with Jose, if we got Greizmann and Kante alone and even kept Rooney, Jose would have a squad capable of making a proper prem run.
Our rivals are strengthening way too much for me to believe he'll still be in charge next season.
Image rights?!! I have a bag of spuds in the cupboard, do I owe LVG money?!
we gave this relic who wouldn't have dreamt to end up at a top club again after he burnt bridges at Barcelona and Bayern his final pay check. Maybe we should re-hire Ron Atkinson now
"He's great, give him an extension"
Curious are those 58 members banned and that's why they haven't changed their vote? Who in their right mind would want to give LVG an extension.
Curious are those 58 members banned and that's why they haven't changed their vote? Who in their right mind would want to give LVG an extension.
Rival fans?
Never thought of that that's put me at ease now.
I am not angry about Liverpool getting to the EL final. Good luck to them, but it is the fact that it has highlighted for everyone to see, the complete incompetence of our board and especially the manager. That hurts.
Ha ha, only if you take a photo of it and put it on a t shirt.
Thank you.
Definitely. Liverpool are in that final on merit. They deserve it. They were dead on their feet before Christmas. Then their board did the right thing and sacked The manager. They didn't care about being perceived as a sacking club and they are now in a European cup final as a result of that decision.
What angers me is knowing that if we would have sacked LVG in January we probably would be a good 10-15 points better off than we are now and we'd all be a lit lot more positive about the future direction of this club.
Another season of LVG will be suicidal.
Depressing times mate
I watched the Liverpool game last night and I didnt begrudge them their win at all. I was rooting for Villareal in a vague kind of a way but at the same time I thought Liverpool played really well and I enjoyed watching them, and the prospect of them winning in the final didnt fill me with the same level of horror as it usually would. In fact, it was almost entirely offset by the prospect of an all-Spanish final in both tournaments.
Van Gaal is even ruining hating Liverpool for me.
Van Gaal is even ruining hating Liverpool for me.
I feel your pain dude.
I got into football back in 1995. I didn't like football simply because there weren't enough goals.
A friend of mine, who was fanatical about football said that if you likes goals, you need to watch MUFC.
My interest grew from there and I loved watching the attacking football of MUFC.
In 2016, we have seen a new brand of '1 goal per game' football, which goes against the very reason why I started watching football (and MUFC).
It's so frustrating what I am seeing right now.
I think that makes it pretty obvious why we didn't sack in December. His position to the organization was not untenable. In the fans eyes, that is probably different and fair enough. But imagine the logistical issue of changing the manager at a club like United.
Excited to see what Vangle does with the team over the summer and next season.
3 more weeks. Just 3 more weeks. My god 3 more weeks!
"I stay. Happy holidays and see you next year".
And we go for 4th place next season. YAH!
Spending £5m to get rid of this guy could be the best bit of money we spend this summer.
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I will sent him an angry email
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Get the Kickstarter going. I reckon we'd get several player contributions!
Send information about this to Di Maria. He may contribute to get his own back on LVG.
I think the most dangerous thing I have heard from Ed is when he stated, like Liverpool, you don't have to compete at the very top to stay relevant and generate revenue/profit. Not a thing I like to hear from a guy in charge of football matters at this club. If Mourinho is not hired Ed should be the target of our anger and frustration. If we must resign ourselves to another below average season and Van Gaal then a position of not giving a toss and keeping our money in our pockets should be adopted by the supporters. Let's turn our attention towards the board Real Madrid style and force a change. I fear we will miss the boat on some world class managerial quality and have to settle for a third tier manager or Giggs with this direction and the club maybe left in a position that will take a generation to recover from.
My light in the darkness has always been the total lack of vocal support coming from the hierarchy for Van Gaal. It seems it's just Louis that is backing Louis, which is so Louis. I think Woodward is afraid of a confrontation with him especially in public which is inevitable with Van Gaal. With no clear statement made by the club with the season drawing to a close I'm encouraged. No matter what happens between now and the last kick Van Gaal has done nothing to warrant one more second as manager of this football club. He was hired to halt our slide and stop us being the butt of jokes from all corners of the game. He has made us worse in every possible way regardless of the youth, which is the only redeeming feature of his tenure but he fell in to that arse first through his own negligence. I just don't think he is capable in managing a club of this size in the modern game, it's like we hired an Alan Curbishly, a decent manager from a different time. Bayern, Barca and Ajax released the hounds because of what we are witnessing now yet our board cowered behind their leather chairs.
I have said before that it's a smart move to stick with until the end of the season and then wave goodbye but that leaves millions of supporters at the mercy of those miserable jackals in the media. I'm not to sure what the club could say to us to put everyone's mind at ease and satisfy all parties. I will have renewed faith in the board if we go with Mourinho. I believe we will have a system and plan in place to rival the best. But if we stick with the current shit on a stick, well, I don't know what I would do. Very confused at the moment.
My light in the darkness has always been the total lack of vocal support coming from the hierarchy for Van Gaal. It seems it's just Louis that is backing Louis, which is so Louis. I think Woodward is afraid of a confrontation with him especially in public which is inevitable with Van Gaal. With no clear statement made by the club with the season drawing to a close I'm encouraged. No matter what happens between now and the last kick Van Gaal has done nothing to warrant one more second as manager of this football club. He was hired to halt our slide and stop us being the butt of jokes from all corners of the game. He has made us worse in every possible way regardless of the youth, which is the only redeeming feature of his tenure but he fell in to that arse first through his own negligence. I just don't think he is capable in managing a club of this size in the modern game, it's like we hired an Alan Curbishly, a decent manager from a different time. Bayern, Barca and Ajax released the hounds because of what we are witnessing now yet our board cowered behind their leather chairs.
I have said before that it's a smart move to stick with until the end of the season and then wave goodbye but that leaves millions of supporters at the mercy of those miserable jackals in the media. I'm not to sure what the club could say to us to put everyone's mind at ease and satisfy all parties. I will have renewed faith in the board if we go with Mourinho. I believe we will have a system and plan in place to rival the best. But if we stick with the current shit on a stick, well, I don't know what I would do. Very confused at the moment.
Good post,
Last sentence, you don't know what you'd do, personally I'd be absolutely livid over the summer, along with the vast majority of United fans once it became crystal clear we're sticking with.
Though once next season kicks off I'd presume our collective fanbase would display something akin battered spouse syndrome rather than anger by then, take it and slink back home every week, and at best somewhere between mild malise to total apathy towards the situation.
A rival supporting friend tells me not to worry, in his own words "United won't keep LvG on, they would be (figuritively!) taking a sh*t on their fanbase" While i'd agree with the sentiment, I can't help but think that nightmare scenario is still a real possibility.
Just saw a 2015 interview with Luis Enrique in which he said:
Maybe, just maybe, he is not the clueless moron that everyone in this thread is saying he is.
He has made some strange decisions and the results have not be nearly good enough - let alone the style of play.
But we have been like that for a few years now.
Still, it was his job to change that.
We have spent pretty poorly in the transfer market. A lot of the deadwood has been moved on only to be replaced by more deadwood.
I am of the belief that no manager could comfortably bag top 4 even with this squad.
And that is LVGs fault. But it is also partly Woody's, partly Moyes' and also partly Fergie's as he allowed the quality and age profile of the squad to steadily decline from 2009.
Maybe, just maybe, he is not the clueless moron that everyone in this thread is saying he is.
He has made some strange decisions and the results have not be nearly good enough - let alone the style of play.
But we have been like that for a few years now.
Still, it was his job to change that.
We have spent pretty poorly in the transfer market. A lot of the deadwood has been moved on only to be replaced by more deadwood.
I am of the belief that no manager could comfortably bag top 4 even with this squad.
And that is LVGs fault. But it is also partly Woody's, partly Moyes' and also partly Fergie's as he allowed the quality and age profile of the squad to steadily decline from 2009.
I don't think Van Gaals methods have evolved to the modern game. Back in Enrique's day if you work hard you reap the rewards. There were far more world class players around then but now we have players like Raheem Sterling and Theo Walcot, multi million pound contracts and transfer fees and still muck compared to players like Giggs, Figo and Nedved. The problem is more pronounced in England with clubs charging the English premium for players that would struggle in Seria B. There were less distractions back then and I could tell you everything about every player in my Panini sticker book. No there is mostly run of the mill players who couldn't care less because they are earning upwards of sixty grand a week when there skill level is more deserving of five. Im a bit of an old moaning bastard today so I will end this post by blaming it on video games. It's the bloody video games!
I think most know that history will show him an excellent manager. However, it appears he is simply a poor match for the club, and 10 years too late for the premier league. The only stereotypical box ticked is the youth players, and could argue that was accidental.
I'm sure he know's his stuff.. the players of today just don't react well to it.. Enrique himself in that statement said it didn't work for him!! Doesn't mean he can't learn.
Wow for the first time in weeks the "sack him now" figures have gone up (by 2) from 980-982 what caused that?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it! Just thought that the fence sitters were all 'pool fans and WUMs.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it! Just thought that the fence sitters were all 'pool fans and WUMs.
We're not going to crack 50 goals in the Prem, very unlikely to be top 4 so no CL next year and we went out in the group stage in the CL this past year. Making/Winning the FA Cup is nice, but we beat Shrewsbury, Derby, Sheffield and the 11th and 6th placed Prem teams (6th in a replay), so it's hardly an indicator of us being anything more than a top-half Prem team, really.
It's good that he's played youth and given a real chance to Rashford, CBJ, McNair and Fosu-Mensah, but that seems like more of a positive to move forward for the next manager than an indication he should stay. It's not like we have a bunch of obvious stars about to push through that we need to blood in.
I still think Mourinho will be here in the summer. His record is incredible and he seems to really want the job.
Another reason why it would be foolish to stick with him. He's not going to change. I don't think he has the desire nor energy to adapt to modern players. It'll just be the same as always, him trying to bend everyone to his will and not applying tact in dealing with certain personalities, and thereby getting the best out of them. It doesn't matter how many talented players you buy, if you can't get them to believe in what you're doing.
50 goals over 38 games, two of which were against shambolic Villa team.
Incredible to.score so few.
Just heard we haven't won away from Manchester since January? FFS!?!
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