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Oh god :lol: why is he making it so difficult for himself? He just has to keep his mouth shut. Try ending the season on a high and retire with maybe the FA cup if United don't screw up as usual.

This is just heartbreaking. He is becoming a parody. All his Ajax days will be forgetten and he will become a joke.
He already is a joke.
 
It could well be that he knows he has been fired/replaced, so now he is just taking the piss.
Saying pretty much anything which comes to mind, without a care in the World.

Ultimately, it's the results on the pitch which count. By saying that we are improving or moving forward (when we are actually going backwards), isn't going to change the probability of his contract being terminated this Summer.
 
So your proof is that Sir Alex was forced into signing Bebe? :lol:

Please enlighten us where this ray of knowledge is coming from? Any reliable sources for this? Who exactly in the United hierachy was responsible for this horrible deed?

I love horrible conspiracy theories, they are entertaining at least.

Sorry I think you have misunderstood or maybe I haven't explained myself properly. Don't want you to think I was saying I have inside sources because I'm not. I do know how football clubs are run though and if you think solely the manager buys players then you are naive. This isn't Football Manager. Scouts, Chief Executives, agents and technical directors all play a major part in bringing players to the clubs. Yes managers will also have their say on players they want but quite often they are not given their first choice player and quite often they agree to sign a player based on their scouting or on what someone inside the club wants - that is how it works.

What I am saying is yes LVG has made mistakes on the pitch and has not helped himself with the style of football that he has tried to install. But IMO the bigger issue that has affected Manchester United in the last three years has been player recruitment and squad management. I don't believe that can be solely blamed on Van Gaal.
 
It'll be one by Thursday next week.

Who sold the rest of them?

Might even be none by then. West Ham could very easily beat us at OT on Sunday.

Imagine that, Manchester United's season over by March with no hope of European football next season. Progress.
 
We could have given him the benefit of the doubt after the first "settling in" season and I was hoping that he'd take what he learned from his debut season, work on it in pre-season and come out with a better plan. But he's proven that he doesn't really have any other plan. There's no steady progression, no improving strategies, just a long line of disappointment and abject failure. I really don't think he actually has even a plan A, he's just barreling into games with a general tactic and hoping that it pays off. He's basically doing what I used to do on Championship Manager, throw together a team in something resembling a formation, vaguely sort out tactics and then send them out onto the pitch and crossing my fingers that I get a good result. Obviously this tactic doesn't work in real life or even in the game. He doesn't even have the benefit of a reload game option.
 
We laugh, but I think LvG really believes that and that he's only being held back by injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if Woodward shares that opinion, they are good friends after all.
 
I think it's his ego talking (not unusual for him). Added to that, I believe that he feels results aren't the most important thing.
 
I think it's his ego talking (not unusual for him). Added to that, I believe that he feels results aren't the most important thing.

It does explain the car crash we're seeing every week. He's way past it
 
To be blunt, van Gaal's latest remarks are of a piece with PR United these days:

"The world's biggest club" (but it probably won't be in the top European competition next season...again)
"All the best players are attracted to Manchester United" (well, all the best cast-offs perhaps...)
"Look, we're still big and important - we've got Rooney!" (who's past his best & doesn't want to move abroad)
"Massive commercial revenues" (earned because of past achievements)
Etc etc etc.
 
My anger with the way he has managed us so far is turning into sadness and pity for him. More and more, he comes across as a senile man who suffers grandiose delusions. He is unable to accept his limitations and failings with us and is coming with over the top explanations to justify himself. His remarks on Scholes' comments as the reason for unrest amongst fans or these latest comments are not his way of deflecting the blame, but he actually truly believes those things. In his mind, he is doing a good job and it's the dumb fans, pundits and media who are unable to recognize it. On top of that, Woody the idiot and our board giving him support feeds into those delusions.

This is turning into a tragedy.
 


Feck off you pan faced twat!!


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It could well be that he knows he has been fired/replaced, so now he is just taking the piss.
Saying pretty much anything which comes to mind, without a care in the World.

Ultimately, it's the results on the pitch which count. By saying that we are improving or moving forward (when we are actually going backwards), isn't going to change the probability of his contract being terminated this Summer.

It must be a pisstake surely , I believe he's kind of sabotaged his club before (from what I've read on here) and it seems to me he's doing it again because he knows he won't be sacked , I hated Moyes by the end but I've hated this twat for at least a year, he's full of himself and full of bs, either that or he's actually senile because nobody in world football would agree with what the arsehole is saying.
 
My anger with the way he has managed us so far is turning into sadness and pity for him. More and more, he comes across as a senile man who suffers grandiose delusions. He is unable to accept his limitations and failings with us and is coming with over the top explanations to justify himself. His remarks on Scholes' comments as the reason for unrest amongst fans or these latest comments are not his way of deflecting the blame, but he actually truly believes those things. In his mind, he is doing a good job and it's the dumb fans, pundits and media who are unable to recognize it. On top of that, Woody the idiot and our board giving him support feeds into those delusions.

This is turning into a tragedy.

I don't feel anything but anger towards the arsehole, he's brought everything onto himself and keeps talking down to everyone like he's the da Vinci of football while being the exact opposite!
 
I don't feel anything but anger towards the arsehole, he's brought everything onto himself and keeps talking down to everyone like he's the da Vinci of football while being the exact opposite!

My anger is more towards the people who didn't sack him after it became painfully obvious that this guy is a past it fraud who doesn't get the league and isn't going to take us anywhere. We could have finished the season on a high if let him go in December.

We have made a complete shambles of the whole situations. Now this senile man talks and does whatever he feels like because he knows that no matter what, he is not going to be canned.
 


What the absolute feck is this?!!!!! What??? What??? How can anyone above this moron read this and not go 'well, he clearly has no clue what is going on. Give him the pink slip." Feck me. This is bordering on criminal negligence on the part of Ed and the board.
 
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not really relevant. it's not the notes that's the problem. plenty of great managers take notes. LVG is just a bad manager. The end. He has no clue. The game has long passed him. He's like Wenger. He just looks dated. Compare his management style and tactics to Jose and Pep and it's embarrassing. He seems to have no grasp on the atmosphere of the team and the season. You have to adjust, pick up points, and slog through the tough parts. He can't do that. Every game is an isolated case. There is no continuity to our season. One step forward, five steps back shows a complete lack of season management. Last season we went 20 games or so unbeaten, and then we just collapsed.
 
feck LVG and feck Woodward too.

Those 2 inept sons of bitches are making me hate football.
 
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Mate I have learned to just tune this guy out. He is borderline delusional. Stats can be manipulated, skewed and interpreted to one's advantage. Just tough this season out and pray there is indeed some sanity in the management to remove him after we are out of everything. That said, I don't have any confidence in the Glazers and the board to do the right thing anymore.
 
"I think it is working," said Van Gaal, rejecting the accusation United had fallen short in his time at the helm.

"It is not giving the best results. It is not good enough when you think you have to be a champion, or win the Europa League or the FA Cup.

So he admits it is not good enough if you aspire to be champion? But thinks it is working. So obviously he doesn't think our level should be winning trophies?
 
Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting attitudes, beliefs or behaviors.

This produces a feeling of discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance etc.

For example, when Louis Van Gaal says Manchester United are playing well but are constantly shite.

Festinger's (1957) cognitive dissonance theory suggests that we have an inner drive to hold all our attitudes and beliefs in harmony and avoid disharmony (or dissonance).

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Attitudes may change because of factors within the person. An important factor here is the principle of cognitive consistency, the focus of Festinger's (1957) theory of cognitive dissonance. This theory starts from the idea that we seek consistency in our beliefs and attitudes in any situation where two cognitions are inconsistent.

http://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html
 
Indeed.
And this time around, it seems that we are not even making any attempt to hide the fact that we are signing Mourinho.
We are not denying rumours about Mourinho. We just aren't saying anything.

Meanwhile the media is repeatedly stating that Jose is MUFC bound.
The Dutch contingent must be complete and utter imbeciles if they can't see what is happening, right under their noses, while their fellow journalists all reporting on Mourinho's imminent arrival.

The only guy who I would like to stay is the GK coach (Frans Hoek). That guy is superb. Our 1st and 2nd choice GKs are top class and I think he has a lot to do with this.
The Denial thing is a very good point, especially when you contrast it to the rumours surrounding Pep

With that one, the club made sure to squash it . First in the early weeks of December , they were briefings that United had no interest in Guardiola....then we quickly denied the Paris meeting allegations. Nothing of the sort with the Jose ones.

I think some of the Dutch contingent are simply reporting what they want to believe. Van Gaal tends to create such a cult like following amongst his fans.
 
Sorry I think you have misunderstood or maybe I haven't explained myself properly. Don't want you to think I was saying I have inside sources because I'm not. I do know how football clubs are run though and if you think solely the manager buys players then you are naive. This isn't Football Manager. Scouts, Chief Executives, agents and technical directors all play a major part in bringing players to the clubs. Yes managers will also have their say on players they want but quite often they are not given their first choice player and quite often they agree to sign a player based on their scouting or on what someone inside the club wants - that is how it works.

What I am saying is yes LVG has made mistakes on the pitch and has not helped himself with the style of football that he has tried to install. But IMO the bigger issue that has affected Manchester United in the last three years has been player recruitment and squad management. I don't believe that can be solely blamed on Van Gaal.
So the fact that a manager gets help in signing players means that the players are being dictated to him? Which club is run any differently?

Because at United, the manager has always had final say . Case in point, David Moyes. The club had scouted Garay and Strootman extensively before he got here, Herrera too. But he wasnt interested in the first two and didnt sign them.

You are just making up stuff as you go along now.
 
If those comments are true he must get some grade A herbs from his homeland. Fecking high as an astronaut.

What a fat retarded saggy faced cnut. See what he's reduced me to, petty name calling.

I really can't stomach him anymore, if he is still our manager for next season, I'm off to Tibet to become a monk.
 
My forecast is a draw and replay to West Ham, exit from the Europa on Thursday, defeat to City but he'll still be in a job as there will be a 'chance' of a trophy!
 
I don't subscribe to The Times but Oliver kay has a new article out, 'The slow death of Man Utd' or something, the first paragraph which you can see says - 'Agents claim that if the club finish fourth Louis van Gaal will remain as manager at Old Trafford.'

Now if that's true the club are goading fans into wanting us to miss out out, I had it in my head that we could maybe squeeze into the top 4 and then he would then walk away, that would be the best case scenario possible and something to hope for, but it seems we truly have to feck the whole season up for him to leave, luckily he seems to be on track.
 
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