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Do you want LVG sacked?


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Who says I still believe? I've not enjoyed watching LVGs United for some time. That doesn't make the notion of us sacking him just before Christmas and letting Giggs take over any less ridiculous.

It isn't ridiculous to sack a guy that is dragging the club down. We have to make the change now if we are going to do it, that way we can try and salvage the season and give the new manager the funds needed in the coming window. LVG has wasted too much money already.

And for the record I am 1 million % against Giggs ever getting the job full time, But if it is for 1 game until the Jose thing is sorted then I don't mind that.
 
But it doesn't look like he has lost the dressing room. We are all relying on Giggs getting off his chair and standing on the touchline to infer that he has lost the dressing room. Giggs's influence on the first XI is significantly lesser now that under Moyes (as most of the players have come under LVG). And, its possible that LVG just told Giggs - do what you want - see if it makes a difference. I don't think it will, but suit yourself.

I suspect he has, with all these reports of players not liking his methods and being bored of training etc. He confirmed a few months ago that the dressing room was flat, I doubt that has improved.
 
"All but agreed" is an odd phrase. Messi, Neymar, Bale and Ronaldo are all but agreed to join too.
 
What sort of club are we then?

One thats happy with not winning for 6 games and 3 wins in our last 14?
We're not a Chelsea. I don't believe we'll sack a manager so early in the season to give our inexperienced deputy a run at a fairytale turn around in form. I believe we still have a long term mentality, which would mean any change in management will be done around the summer where a long term replacement gets a preseason, as with Moyes.
 
If it's Woodward, Glazers and a few money men making the decisions then Giggs as manager could well happen. You would have to think though that if the opinions of Fergie, Gill, Charlton etc are seriously canvased then there is no way this would happen, not when you have Guardiola, Mourinho and possibly Simone pitching for PL jobs.

It's a bit like Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar saying they want to play in the PL and us passing that up in favour of hoping an inexperienced James Wilson will come good.
For some reason, I see it as the other way around.
 
I suspect he has, with all these reports of players not liking his methods and being bored of training etc. He confirmed a few months ago that the dressing room was flat, I doubt that has improved.

Haven't seen any 'quotes' to this effect. There was one rumour of a player apparently stating (over an international break) that he is playing only at 50% under LVG, because he could be much better under any other manager (or something like that). Apart from that, there have been lots of direct quotes (including Jones recently) in support of LVG and his methods. I prefer relying on direct quotes.
 
For some reason, I see it as the other way around.

Yeah exactly. Charlton would probably refuse to accept anyone non-British and Ferguson would rather have someone who played under him than some foreign random folk.
 
Yeah exactly. Charlton would probably refuse to accept anyone non-British and Ferguson would rather have someone who played under him than some foreign random folk.
It's actually quite sad that people trust some financial gurus more than legends of the club but it is the way it is (based on the little information we have).
 
It's actually quite sad that people trust some financial gurus more than legends of the club but it is the way it is (based on the little information we have).

I don't trust our legends after Moyes disaster. We almost kept him after that tragedy of a season too.
 
Haven't seen any 'quotes' to this effect. There was one rumour of a player apparently stating (over an international break) that he is playing only at 50% under LVG, because he could be much better under any other manager (or something like that). Apart from that, there have been lots of direct quotes (including Jones recently) in support of LVG and his methods. I prefer relying on direct quotes.

You wont get direct quotes, but there are a lot of rumours. Of course in official interviews the players will back him.
Look at the Chelsea thing with Mou, rumours galore before he went, with direct quotes of players all backing him. Then day hes sacked conflict with players confirmed.
 
For some reason, I see it as the other way around.

agree. the key driver is investments. Manchester United are a business first and a football club afterwards. Fund managers invest in United and the owners will not watch and see the value of their investment go down. All the media speculation only shows the owners are being tight lipped. In fact even senior players will not have been told anything.

If the announcement does not come today it will be tomorrow imo.
 
Yeah exactly. Charlton would probably refuse to accept anyone non-British and Ferguson would rather have someone who played under him than some foreign random folk.
If Mourinho wants the job he'd be #1 on Fergie's list right now. We all know their relationship and respect for each other and recently Ferguson in one interview called him again a fantastic manager and believed he can turn things around if he's given the time.
 
All this speculation - but the club have said nothing or nuffink. I think the writing is on the wall.
 
If Mourinho wants the job he'd be #1 on Fergie's list right now. We all know their relationship and respect for each other and recently Ferguson in one interview called him again a fantastic manager and believed he can turn things around if he's given the time.

Him or Pep. Pretty sure he rates both of them really highly.
 
If I went for "Yes, sack him now" that would partly be to make sure that we can get the right man in. I'd have the backroom staff sorting that out now. Give LvG a couple more games. Have the usual Giggs takes over part of the season, then kick on with Guardiola in the summer
 
If Mourinho wants the job he'd be #1 on Fergie's list right now. We all know their relationship and respect for each other and recently Ferguson in one interview called him again a fantastic manager and believed he can turn things around if he's given the time.

Morinho will be our next manager simply because he is the best one available right now And he can still get us the title. No way will Giggs be a caretaker until the summer.
 
Moyes got sacked on the Tuseday (everybody knew he was getting sacked as it was impossible to get CL football)

So maybe tomorrow is the day
Fairly sure he got sacked on the Monday? It was the best Bank Holiday ever.

Edit: You're right, it was a Tuesday, day after the Bank Holiday.
 
If it's Woodward, Glazers and a few money men making the decisions then Giggs as manager could well happen. You would have to think though that if the opinions of Fergie, Gill, Charlton etc are seriously canvased then there is no way this would happen, not when you have Guardiola, Mourinho and possibly Simone pitching for PL jobs.

It's a bit like Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar saying they want to play in the PL and us passing that up in favour of hoping an inexperienced James Wilson will come good.

I think it is completely the other way around.
 
Fergie might not be opposed to Maureen. Charlton definitely is, unless he's completely changed his tune. But even he will realize we're in a very different position now compared to where we were when Maureen was a candidate last time round.

As for Giggs and Fergie, who knows. Fergie sort of endorsed his candidature some months back, but that was then. Plus, the long-term plan may very well have been to give the job to Giggs after a successful rebuild period with LVG in charge. Giving it to him now, after an emergency sacking, is a different proposition. And Fergie couldn't possibly have predicted that Maureen would again turn up as an available candidate for the job - certainly not this soon.
 
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/manchester-...ester-united-discussing-jose-mourinho-sources

Manchester United representatives have spoken to Jose Mourinho's camp about the possibility of becoming the club's next manager, sources from both sides have told ESPN FC, with current boss Louis van Gaal on the brink of the sack.

United suffered a third consecutive defeat on Saturday, losing 2-1 to Norwich City at home in another insipid display, and sources told ESPN FC that the growing feeling among the hierarchy is that it is time to replace Van Gaal.

That would pave the way for Mourinho to get the job he has coveted for years, and ESPN FC has been told his representatives approached United within 24 hours of the Portuguese losing his job at Chelsea on Thursday, with that contact continuing over the weekend.

Sources indicated that Mourinho is fully ready and willing to take the role -- and said privately this week that it would be impossible to turn down -- and that United are "very, very tempted" by the prospect.

His appointment at Old Trafford is still a long way from certain, however.

ESPN FC was told in 2013 that Sir Bobby Charlton, who has worked as a director at United for over 30 years, had such strong concerns over Mourinho's conduct that he was ruled out of the running to replace Sir Alex Ferguson, and sources say there are still some within the Old Trafford hierarchy who are stridently opposed to the 52-year-old's appointment.

The sources said their influence is waning, though, and that some who were against Mourinho before have now changed their opinions.
 
Morinho will be our next manager simply because he is the best one available right now And he can still get us the title. No way will Giggs be a caretaker until the summer.
Aye, it's no brainer. Although with the Moyes stunt I'm not sure what the board will do anymore...
 
Moyes got sacked on the Tuseday (everybody knew he was getting sacked as it was impossible to get CL football)

So maybe tomorrow is the day

Didn't we play on the Sunday that day?

Then a bank holiday, then sacked on the first working day afterwards.
 
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