Yes presumably he is open to extending it on improved terms, rather than the same terms. There is inflation to consider after all! To be honest. Shaw is one of the players that I would move on. Simply too inconsistent for me. Impressive in an England shirt, but too often flatters to deceive for United. A player with genuine potential who through a combination of lack of application and lack of personal care has, at club level, failed to become all he could have been. Better to get rid of him now whilst his wages can be taken on by other clubs, than try to offload him later when he is on an inflated wage that no-one will pay.
Luke Shaw: "open" to signing a new contract
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Yes presumably he is open to extending it on improved terms, rather than the same terms. There is inflation to consider after all! To be honest. Shaw is one of the players that I would move on. Simply too inconsistent for me. Impressive in an England shirt, but too often flatters to deceive for United. A player with genuine potential who through a combination of lack of application and lack of personal care has, at club level, failed to become all he could have been. Better to get rid of him now whilst his wages can be taken on by other clubs, than try to offload him later when he is on an inflated wage that no-one will pay.
Open to signing a new deal on March 9th (allegedly so the paper reports, could be BS)
Unhappy and unwanted (subtext) in interview on March 26th
hmmmm ....
Unhappy and unwanted (subtext) in interview on March 26th
hmmmm ....
100%, I too would say that the truth lies in the middle with Shaw, which definitely means he should be a stop gap at best if we're serious about winning things. Mourinho ain't the only manager to have issue with him down the years. In my view, when he's at his best he's good but not great, and he's certainly not consistent. I appreciate it might be hard to be consistent in a team that's consistently shite, but one of the reasons we're consistently shite is we have far too many players that aren't at it very often.
I'm sure he is. Boot him out.
Why? Our best players this season have probably been Greenwood before he was dropped and Elanga. Frankly, the last few years of this team suggests that we should let everyone over a certain age that isn't called De Gea go.
I think Shaw is one of the most technically gifted players in the squad and some of the things like his first touch and ability to drive with the ball are a joy to watch. But it cannot be denied that he is prone to loss of concentration and seems to lack that do or die spirit that most top defenders have, Robertson being a direct comparison. His defensive positioning especially when the ball is on the opposite flank is suspect at best, though he has shown in big games he is capable off shutting down his flank entirely against some top players.
As you say he is definitely not consistent, but given so many other areas in our squad that are in desperate need of reinforcement, I'd be happy to keep him at least for next season.
Realistically, if we want to go back to winning trophies instantly, we'd probably need to replace the entire team, but that can't happen. So we need to get rid of the worst first, and I don't think he's in the category just yet.
Funny you mention a billion pounds because that’s about how much we’ve spent accumulating this crap. We pay top dollar for crap players and exorbitant wages, it’s comes down to how amateurishly the club is run. The club don’t need donations, they need a proper recruitment process in place that goes beyond big name that’s available.
I really used to like shaw, he was a people’s champ, being treated like garbage by Mourinho but he persevered and became a good player for Man United and England.
In his last 2 interviews though he has become one of those weak players we don’t need and is probably going to cause rifts with players when he comes back, Some people will say he’s just being honest but imagine if every footballer was honest in interviews, There’s being honest and being stupid,
Jamie Redknapp summed it up by saying if you can’t take the pressures of a big club like United then leave.
Basically man up.
In his last 2 interviews though he has become one of those weak players we don’t need and is probably going to cause rifts with players when he comes back, Some people will say he’s just being honest but imagine if every footballer was honest in interviews, There’s being honest and being stupid,
Jamie Redknapp summed it up by saying if you can’t take the pressures of a big club like United then leave.
Basically man up.
We should count ourselves lucky we get to sit down at the table with him for a new contract
The only factor in this club's calculation about a new contract is resale value.
And I cannot remember a decent sell
. The players know that the club doesn't want to spend big on a replacement so they will get whatever salary they want irrespective of their performances.I'm not sure that's fair though. Luke Shaw has been part of a failing side for the best part of 6/7 years, but is that his fault? I personally don't buy this lack of effort line, certainly not for the majority of our squad.
Some of our players have had basically abuse thrown at them now for a prolonged period. Not least the likes of Shaw, Maguire and AWB. I get that fans are frustrated, but it's not the fault of any one individual player or group of players, it's a series of on-going poor decisions and poor planning from the senior management at the club.
Basically, what I am saying is, rather than abusing our LB, our a CB, or our RB, or whoever really, we should be/should have been directing that anger at the Board, and in-particular Ed Woodward.
These lads are human and they're not miracle workers. They can't turn a dysfunctional side into a brilliant side by themselves, through sheer force of will or talent. I just think that most of them are being/have been badly let down.
Then we get the likes of Pogba, who to be honest I have less sympathy with, who comes out constantly talking about leaving at the most inopportune moments, and yet many people jump to his defence. I don't really get the criteria that people use on this forum to decide who is 'lazy/weak/not-trying', it seems to make no sense and largely be either directed at players Ole signed or favoured....perhaps because of the influence of prominent know-nothings on social media?
So we’re handing out contracts to players before deciding on the new manager? We haven’t learnt anything, have we? I just hope the rumours aren‘t true.
p.s. That also goes for Bruno, who I like. We don’t know if the new manager would want him in his plans.
p.s. That also goes for Bruno, who I like. We don’t know if the new manager would want him in his plans.
British players will always get more opportunities for new contracts given the home grown status needed in the squad. There is only so far you can extend contracts though (see Lingard and Jones) before they have to move on for many reasons. Luke Shaw will no doubt get a new contract but it’s the amount he gets paid for been an average PL full back is what rattles my piss.
Don’t see the big rush to extend at the moment though - let’s get new manager in and let him make an assessment. Ditto for Rashford.
Don’t see the big rush to extend at the moment though - let’s get new manager in and let him make an assessment. Ditto for Rashford.
That would be true if we ever actually sold any of the feckers
So Luke, what can we get you?
"My mate who used to have a trial at Westham is now making 500k per week from his business, I just imagine I would feel happy and wanted in this life if I make such amount. But that doesn't mean I'm not satisfied with United's current offer, don't get me wrong okay? I just say I will play to the best of my abilities and feel very wanted if I make the same amount as my mate that used to have a trial at Westham that is now making 500k per week. It doesn't mean I'm not happy with current offer though, not at all".
I mean the drink, what do you want to have?
That's what PR training a dumb football player gets you.
Rashford started it and all the others will follow until someone at the club grows a pair and shoots off these feckers to Everton or Newcastle.
if we pay him by performance then he'll end up collecting food stamps
I really want the club to man up and start making an example of these players.
Start with Shaw and Rashford, letting them leave will send a message out to players that do not have the mental capacity to handle the United pressure.
Sell and go get a lower wage somewhere. Both players will leave for clubs that are not in the top 6.
Start with Shaw and Rashford, letting them leave will send a message out to players that do not have the mental capacity to handle the United pressure.
Sell and go get a lower wage somewhere. Both players will leave for clubs that are not in the top 6.
I dont think Rashford needs to be made an example of!
But Shaw....this player is a cancer at the club and needs to go asap.
I mean if the player wants to leave and thinks he is entitled to start games, they should be told to leave.
Shaw is someone we need to start with. I was a huge Shaw fan but he has shown over the last 18 months that he does not have the mental attitude to succeed at the highest level. Then his comments this week are the final straw for me, it would be understandable if a player is playing well or not given the opportunities to play saying something like he did, but he is someone who starts alot of games and contributes very little.
Luke Shaw doesn't feel enough wanted with Manchester United. Fans have short memories indeed. They forget that he gave us like 4 months of good football since he signed for us
Pogba gets scapegoated far more than the likes of Shaw, and most of the time it's his agent that is playing games not Pogba himself. I'm not saying Pogba is innocent, of course not, but I do think Shaw has had a very easy ride for his nearly 8 (!) years at the club. It was easy to target to Mourinho, so everyone thought Shaw was the innocent party. But I'll ask again, what have we got in return for his long stint at the club?
I think it says a lot that judging by media reports that we’ve prioritised Bruno’s new contract over Shaw and Rashford. Bruno’s current contract (the first one he signed to join us) doesn‘t expire until like 2025? Yet Shaw is almost into his last year and Rashford has got two years left.
Except we put them on silly wages we can't actually sell them! It's a right mess. I'd have thought we were learning our lessons by now. Alas, what do I know?
Extending Bruno's contract from 2026 to 2027 with a 100% payrise during poor form is laughable business however important he'll be for us. I had hoped we'd set a 200k wage cap while getting rid of the players making more.
If Rashford really gets a new big contract this club is fecked beyond repair and we won't win squat for the next decade.
Shaw really should be going too, we don't need part-time players moaning and leaking every week.
What is potential and technically gifted if they're not come to fruition.
Birds in the skies dont count
Well, for the most part, I think Shaw has been one of our more consistent performers, culminating in a PotY award and an England re-call.
I personally don't make a distinction between what Pogba does or says and what Pogba's agent does or says....if I had an agent who consistently undermined my employer and my teammates then it's up to me to deal with it, not shrug and say 'he said it, not me'.
Unless you feel we have enough money to buy a whole new squad in a single summer, we are going to be stuck with a few players who are nothing more than potential or technically gifted. So we need to make a decision over who's the worst of the bunch and kick them out first. Shaw is nowhere near the worst, hence for the time being we persist with him. It's not ideal but it's not like we have many other options if you are being realistic.
If people wanna be all idealistic and go Fergie wouldn't have stood for such comments or these players are an embarrassment blah blah, then sure, but it's not gonna change the reality.
Now thats funny. In any case, we have to protect the assets that nobody wants in current condition by giving them higher wages = win.Very fecking nice of him, I must say.
A 10m player from championship with a heart and good attitude and respect for the manager instructions as well as being able to function as a professional footballer would ro a better job than luke shaw
Elanga has shown that.
We're not gonna win anything with this lot anyway.
And 150k per week is 7.5M per year on wages alone. Might as well pick some cheap player to do the job and build rrom there once we get our culture back.
Adding new players to these sets of rotten apple would only spoil their mentality.
Seriously who the feck is deciding to start renewing contracts with Shaw and Rashford when they're being kept out of the team by Elanga and Telles? They seriously dont see any potential issues there? Just braindead.
Murtough and Fletcher.
Let me introduce you to the Manchester United board.
Totally agree. Shaw had the potential to be one of the best full backs in world football but he squandered it. Had his chance and he picks and chooses when he performs. Would love to see the club move him on
Only thing Luke Shaw is open to, is a third trip to the buffet line.
The only contract he needs to sign is a fecking gym membership.