I’d say being «right about virtually everything» makes you pretty close to perfect, no? Also he wasn’t. And isn’t. And the club threw him Zlatan, Pogba, Lukaku, Alexis etc. Hardly scraps.We’re in a f-ing rut and Jose is as much to blame as the useless board and the rest of our managers. He was shockingly bad for us.
Luke Shaw interview post Wolves defeat
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I’d say being «right about virtually everything» makes you pretty close to perfect, no? Also he wasn’t. And isn’t. And the club threw him Zlatan, Pogba, Lukaku, Alexis etc. Hardly scraps.We’re in a f-ing rut and Jose is as much to blame as the useless board and the rest of our managers. He was shockingly bad for us.
Nothing wrong with the interview, he came across as dejected as many of us feel, like he genuinely cares, and he was honest without being brutal about anyone specifically.
We agree. ‘woeful long before tonight’.
We disagree.
How from that post do you get that I want him to start his interview with “First of all, I need to talk about how I played under the former manager…”, it’s a strange leap.
My point is [as you clearly don’t get it]. . .
Shaw is correct the team lacked a lot tonight but he’s lacked most things all season, I just find it a little distasteful when players dig out the ‘team’ because they were least ‘shit’ but then stay quiet after their worst performances.
Shaw is the wrong man saying the right thing, unfortunately that goes for most of this squad. I’m just tired of hearing the same old thing every few weeks from that games least ‘shit’ performer.
Who in our team are actually good mates off it these days?
Pogba-Lingard-Rashford-Sancho?
From the outside they don't look like a together group.
Pogba-Lingard-Rashford-Sancho?
From the outside they don't look like a together group.
Kinda are in a way, not exactly players to compete for a title.
Basically sums up this thread, along with the random Mourinho lovers popping up going :
“SEE HE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG AND WE DIDNT BACK HIM”
It was an interview about the game tonight, and he gave an insightful and honest account of it. Our lack of options for the player in possession has been a huge issue for a long time now. We are so static off the ball it's shocking.
Who/what is the problem then? Sick of hearing these fecking cryptic messages every week.
Good on Shaw.
Shaw’s comments pretty much shed light on what we already know from the end of last season.
There’s a bad culture at United, we’ve got a bunch of over paid, under performing players, a few that like a moan, a few that don’t want to be here, a few that think they’re above running themselves into the ground for a team mate.
We need a clear out, not everyone but the toxic ones, the ones that are running their contracts down and the ones that don’t want to be here. It doesn’t have to cost a fortune, just get the right characters in and stop with this over pampering and over promoting of players who have one good season.
There’s a bad culture at United, we’ve got a bunch of over paid, under performing players, a few that like a moan, a few that don’t want to be here, a few that think they’re above running themselves into the ground for a team mate.
We need a clear out, not everyone but the toxic ones, the ones that are running their contracts down and the ones that don’t want to be here. It doesn’t have to cost a fortune, just get the right characters in and stop with this over pampering and over promoting of players who have one good season.
How can a professional athlete paid 150k per week.... with access to nutritionists, personal trainers and chefs be fat if they're professional?
Luke Shaw is not professional enough to play here. His stomach tells you that much.
Disharmony in the squad is basically what Shaw said
What did you find cryptic in what he said?
Jose was the one. When he knew the club weren't going to back him he gave up.
Literally everyone playing ahead of him. Apart from, arguably, Matic? He didn’t need to name names. It was obvious.
Is RR strong enough to drop the person/people creating this disharmony then? Look at what Tuchel did with Lukaku.
Are we talking about one game or the whole season because he's been shite himself for most of it?
He’s already dropped Martial and he’s already said he’s not going to convince players who don’t want to be here to stay. Sounds like he knows what he’s doing, his CV suggests so also.
Now you’re being cryptic. He was being asked about tonight’s game. Not the whole season. Not the 1999 CL final.
It was a post match interview.
The dude has a heavy build but frankly it is idiocy to say he is unfit, he is actually pretty ripped just not skinny the way you like your boys.
Will we never be free of Jose?
EDIT:. Feck all wrong with the interview to be honest. Hopefully they can get it sorted.
This.
There was nothing that Luke Shaw said that we either didn't already know or couldn't see with our own eyes. Nothing wrong with him saying it, at all.
Posters are always moaning about a slow build up from defence, but where's the movement ahead for them to pass to? Lack of midfield quality (Ole did want at least one midfielder, instead got Ronaldo) is evident as is a total lack of work by the forwards (Cavani aside).
This squad seems to have become divided since Ronaldo came, hope he's not the cause.
The quote of the thread title. If he won't name names, which I get he shouldn't, then don't mention it. Not only does it look bad on them, but bad on the new manager, too, who's job was to sort the problems we saw reoccurring under Ole. As it is, we're seeing the same performances and same interviews after the game, yet none of them are able to give us 5 decent performances in a row - Shaw included!
I look forward to hearing from Shaw after his next bad game.
Ah I think he was right to call the game as he saw it. He didn't do the usual platitudes. He highlighted a few very specific problems.
No it was strange. Even stranger was RR saying he couldnt sub a no 6 so had to sub our best attacker, and didnt explain why he changed his mind keeping Cavani on. Maybe because he is a senior player. Very weird decision..
No need to be silly. Of course I know that. However, the fact that he said ''we are not all together'' as opposed to we were not, suggests this is something long term, which we all know it has been, otherwise Ole would still be the manager.
Therefore, my question is, who is it in the dressing room that is causing unrest?
Come on, Martial has played so little even before Ralf that he might not even be here anymore. Much easier dropping him than Ronaldo. Also much easier taking Greenwood off than Ronaldo or Cavani.
Ralf is new and things need to change. So he might as well do it right regardless of big names.
Muppet
For him to come out and say this something is massively wrong at the club, peasants like me and you aren’t allowed to know what the hell is going on. Honest interview without putting players under the bus, got no issue with it. Something terribly wrong at United he was the best left back in the world at the World Cup.
We’re getting nowhere slowly here.
We've reached the "Jose was right" point 
. Good God, didn't think it will happen.
. Good God, didn't think it will happen.Are you really searching the internet for pictures of ripped footballers?
Ahh, I see. I'd need to listen to it myself, to be honest. However, literally every pundit says we don't play like a team, so for one of the players to suggest that is pretty damning, especially with a new manager in charge.
The defending for the goal was shocking. I know Traore is difficult to play against but he did nothing special there and Luke practically stepped aside. He always struggles against Traore and I think he just doesn't fancy that battle.
As a defender when you're so bad in a game changing moment the performance can't be classed as good.
Seeing as Shaw is arguably the one and only player in our entire squad who has shown himself capable of performing at a high level for more than a handful of matches in a row there’s a reasonable chance you’re in for a long wait. Fingers crossed, eh?
If that is word for word what he said (I turned off on the final whistle) then he is 100% correct.
You’ll never see Jones wave his hands in “despair” as much as some other players