In Austria/Germany we have a saying (Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende) that boils down to „rather a painful end than pain without end“. I find that quite fitting for the current situation.
Luke Shaw interview post Wolves defeat
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In Austria/Germany we have a saying (Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende) that boils down to „rather a painful end than pain without end“. I find that quite fitting for the current situation.
Make him Captain
All the hysteria and shock was created by Sky. I watched it live also and couldn’t believe Dave Jones? reaction. He had a list prepared!! FFS it was all visible on the pitch but with Ince & Redknapp in the studio you could probably excuse him for missing that.
Usually plays just say “the team lacked energy, motivation etc” Shaw clearly made a distinction amongst the players.
Very hard to argue with this
Sick of them. They get paid a fortune and need to stop being petulant children, get their head down and do their best. As for not liking the manager, why? Because he's asking them to work harder than they did under Solskjaer? Lazy pricks.
No problem with a bit of honesty from a player instead of the usual shite they spew out, but means feck all when the same performances go on week after week.
It's always the next game with these lads. They do interviews the same way they play, always waiting for it to click, instead of actually doing something about it while the fecking game is there to be won.
It's always the next game with these lads. They do interviews the same way they play, always waiting for it to click, instead of actually doing something about it while the fecking game is there to be won.
That's an interesting interview alright. All's not right in that squad.
He's right though in the premier league now if you're not working and running at 150% effort for the whole match (or can't) then you've no chance.
He's right though in the premier league now if you're not working and running at 150% effort for the whole match (or can't) then you've no chance.
These players have survived as managers have come and gone. I wouldn't mind if they are all, with no exception, gone.
imagine watching that lot tonight and thinking Rashford is one of our best players.
I've just watched the interview and didn't think there was anything "wrong" or seriously off about it. He looked like a player who just lost a game. Dare I say it, he seemed ashamed. Nothing about it seemed off.
A rare honest interview from a player. He didn't throw anyone individually under the bus.
What the hell!? They are footballers that should get in line with what the manager wants them to do, what the hell has been happening that they want to dictate to the managers we have how they want to play and how much effort they want to give, it's absolutely shocking the entitlement in that dressing room. They should be working overtime to adapt to Ralf's new ideas, bunch of absolute wasters I cannot stand the fecking lot of them
Son and Kane are better than most of our attackers and they are in their prime and on less than our lads. Now I’m not saying they have a better team than us but if they can keep it tight and get it to those two they can beat anyone on their day. Motivation seemed to be what was lacking there. Our team is just overrated and overpaid and lacking in too many key ingredients and chemistry. We have a multi billion pound organisation and we are totally depending on lads in their mid 30s. Says a lot about our lack of fresh ideas and level of ambition and also how little our young players have stepped up. They can’t seem to find the required consistency.
Yes, these last few years is death by 1000 cuts. False Dawns all over the shop. We’ve become Liverpool spice boys era and they took up where we left off. Hard working ballsy attacking football and finding bargains in the market. Fiery manager who demands total respect and control. We are miles off it.
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As opposed to who? Unfortunately they are all awful at the moment. At least Rashford has been good in the past. What annoys me now is that he has become incredibly lazy and has a bad attitude.
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Same old blah blah, not my fault comments. He’s been abhorrent at points this season & his fall off a cliff in form did for our previous manager whilst the previous 2 managers had things to say about his professionalism.
We’ve been collectively shite but Shaw has singularly been horrendous this season, ‘we have no intensity’, then fecking try harder!
We’ve been collectively shite but Shaw has singularly been horrendous this season, ‘we have no intensity’, then fecking try harder!
Sounding very familiar to when SAF entered in the beginning, anyone who isn’t willing to actually earn their money and play for the sort can go, RR will see who is wants to play for the club and the incoming manager.
You got to wonder why @Livewire1974, presumably a United fan, starts a thread that gets half the forum to react negatively to something that didn't happen.
Then I guess you also have to wonder why half the forum gets outraged at something they didn't watch or read.
Then I guess you also have to wonder why half the forum gets outraged at something they didn't watch or read.
Shaw implies the front end did not provide enough options of passing the balls and intensity of pressing the opponents. Also interestingly, he thinks someone is not giving 100% .
If you really watched the game, I think he means Ronaldo. Could not hold the ball well , did not press well , did not fight for the 2nd ball or sprint for the 1st ball.
Honestly, Ronaldo should be the 1st one to sub off in this match. Greenwood actually was the best performer among the front 4 and no idea why he was subbed off first.
If you really watched the game, I think he means Ronaldo. Could not hold the ball well , did not press well , did not fight for the 2nd ball or sprint for the 1st ball.
Honestly, Ronaldo should be the 1st one to sub off in this match. Greenwood actually was the best performer among the front 4 and no idea why he was subbed off first.
I've suspected it was Shaw for years. He's a clear leaker.
Always happens when he's not a first choice starter the chubby bastard.
Bunch of drama queens. He said nothing controversial.
You didn't watch the interview did you?
You're just chatting bollocks, nowhere did he say it was not his fault, way to misrepresent what he said.
Cultural reset gone to pot.
Brilliant, refreshing interview. That’s what we want. Not the safe bullshit
Pitchforks. Someone to blame. Etc etc.
That reminds me, I need to go watch the interview
Luke should try and get his bodyfat level below 12% before he talks about intensity and effort.
I hope we're not living in a world where Luke Shaw can have a dig at Cristiano Ronaldo about professionalism.
feck Luke Shaw. Show us don't talk about it.
I hope we're not living in a world where Luke Shaw can have a dig at Cristiano Ronaldo about professionalism.
feck Luke Shaw. Show us don't talk about it.
Firstly, calm down.
Secondly you’ve just misinterpreted my post to claim I did the same to Shaw. It’s all well speaking up when the team play badly, he’s been terrible at points this season in games but never popped his head above the parapet. It’s easy to say, ‘we lack intensity’ after tonight but he’s lacked it all season, he needs to up his game foremost.
Now wind your neck in & learn to discuss instead of foaming at the keyboard. So where did I say he said it wasn’t his fault? Oh I didn’t, you’re just making up strawman arguments because you’re upset we lost so need to lash out like a juvenile.
It’s the miss match of the squad. The midfielders aren’t smart enough or good enough to give them the ball in dangerous areas
So attacking players either drop deep and easy to defend against
Or we end up like Newcastle with 7 attacking players all in a line across the 18 yard box, no one in midfield and Harry maguire thinking he’s prime Tom Brady trying to spray passes
Fatshaming? Nice.
Valid point.
Exactly.
Typical ‘we’ comments when he has been woeful long before tonight. Where was he post match earlier in the season when him & fellow Chuckle Brother, Maguire were actively attempting to outdo each other in terms of mistakes week on week. . .
Getting painfully obvious
So many weird takes in this thread
The idea of a cull sounds great, but the reality has always been that we won't be able to move numerous players on because absolutely no one they'd move to (Nobody wants to live and play in Newcastle), will take on their wage as well as paying the transfer fees for them.
Financially, it's a black hole that no non-oil club can withstand. In short, we're stuck with a number of players even if we want to show them the door.
We're really in a bog with this.
Financially, it's a black hole that no non-oil club can withstand. In short, we're stuck with a number of players even if we want to show them the door.
We're really in a bog with this.
Jose was right about a lot of things of this football club and I was adamant that he should have been fully backed. Instead the club threw him scraps, told him to "deal with it" and when things went to shit - he got blamed for it. He wasn't perfect, but he was right about virtually everything.
Is it not just easier to talk about effort and aggression rather than what's actually wrong? Namely too many players who can't trap and pass a ball.
The latter is very difficult to say publically.
The latter is very difficult to say publically.
Good interview
He wasn’t woeful tonight. He was good. As he has been in every game under Rangnick. Something we can say about very few players. And that was the context of the interview. It would have been fecking ridiculous of him to come out and say “First of all, I need to talk about how I played under the former manager…”