No I'm not blind, yes you could argue he gave too much space for Amarbat, and maybe he shouldn't have left Martial or assumed he was going to deal with it, Shaw was off and running in the hope of a counter attack and I would call it misjudged but hardly a defensive blunder and let's be honest, none of them players out there were pulling up any trees but in my opinion Shaw was the best of a bad bunch.
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give chance to Riley or TFM, Rojo is a total liability, not only a reckless defender but absolute toss at going forward, understand we sent CBJ out onloan as he needs games to develop, hope TFM plays well if given chance against northampton.. and there were some rumours Jose likes Joe Riley so please be it true..
Fellaini was much better than him, as in he did something that led to 0 personal errors and won mands ary ariel duels. If a player whose 2 mistakes cost you the match is your man of the match then standards are truly falling.
And you have the fecking audacity to call me blind? What about the penalty?
When the game was over? Yeah sure.
But the game wasn't over, that's why they were allowed a penalty. You do know how this football thing works don't you?
Injured?
Feck sake
Shaw has been injury prone since he got here. His first season was plagued with injuries, won't mention the second as that wasn't his fault.
The media is trying to make it more than it seems between him and Jose. When Mou throws you under the bus, he has no subtlety whatsoever. He merely pointed out that Shaw made a mistake, not sure why people are melting down about it.
Anyway, I hope this isn't the start of Shaw becoming injury prone.
Anyway, I hope this isn't the start of Shaw becoming injury prone.
When is it ever a player's 'fault' when they're injured?
We are so fecked now that he's out. Fosu Mensah has to step in, he's got the Alaba hair and all. We can't play Rojo he's diabolically shit oh my god it's gone from bad to worse 
Crazy day and age we live in, you get criticized in every job, but if a millionaire footballer who one of reasons gets paid the obnoxious money is because they play a public sport all in the publics eye
So Mourinho crirtisced a player, and all the media are going crazy, about how its not acceptable to criticise a player. How are managers supposed to work these days, they`ll say one thing to the player, and the whole media tell him the manager is wrong, luke shaw can do no wrong
So Mourinho crirtisced a player, and all the media are going crazy, about how its not acceptable to criticise a player. How are managers supposed to work these days, they`ll say one thing to the player, and the whole media tell him the manager is wrong, luke shaw can do no wrong
Very, very bad news.
Shaw is nowhere near as good as Alves.
Crazy to think that. Go look what Alves was doing as right back when Sevilla were winning Europa leagues for the first time. He was the key player. Shaw wouldn't be able to do that.
I think his attacking play is overrated on here because of those three games from last year. Just like people were banging on for years about Ando and Clev.
Shaw like a lot of the squad needs to work on his crossing.
Fixed.
You just cant blame every player for every mistake they make publicly, that is not how it works. Sure they are millioaires, but they are also human beings as van Gaal would say I miss the nutter.
Anyway, you really dont do it if you have to, but Mou does it often, too often. It is not the end of the world, but it can have an effect on todays youngsters, especially with all of them on social media and in the public eyes. The negativity and press is everywhere.
I miss the nutter.Anyway, you really dont do it if you have to, but Mou does it often, too often. It is not the end of the world, but it can have an effect on todays youngsters, especially with all of them on social media and in the public eyes. The negativity and press is everywhere.
If Shaw is injured then hopefully it's Young/Darmian rather than Rojo for PL games.
It has absolutely zero to do with money or the attitude of modern players. A manager who publicly criticised his players was always running a risk, even back in the 70's when old school players were getting paid next to nothing. The notion that a manager should defend his players in public and criticise them in private is actually a principle that hasn't changed at all over the years.
fecks sake
Shouldn't worry though, Blind should slot right in there.
Shouldn't worry though, Blind should slot right in there.
fecks sake
Shouldn't worry though, Blind should slot right in there.
Well, at least someone can pass the ball out of the back then.
I hope Jose doesn't go for Rojo.
Ok unless I've missed something here, I never compared him to Alves or said that he can be compared to Alves from an attacking POV?
Alves was 23-24 during that Europa league. That's 2-3 years more experience and game time on Shaw, who is still only 21 and of which 1 year was completely wiped from him due to injury.
Shaw's attacking contribution can definitely improve and even then he still has some fundamentals that means he might not be an attacking force per se but (lack of) experience and playing in such rigid team movement certainly doesn't help.
He's the only good left back we have. We have a weakness in our matchday team now that Shaw is out. Could have kept Blackett for a season me thinks.
Blackett is not even Championship standard. He got destroyed by the Celtic fans after his abysmal performances during his loan spell there. I'd rather Blind go to LB.
Blind, Rojo and Riley are all better than Blackett at LB.
Blackett Good joke.
Good joke.Blacket ha ha ha ha
Even last game he beat his man comfortably and won the tackle multiple times. I don't think he is a poor Lb at all.
Thing is Mourinho used to be known for defending players and deflecting any criticism in interviews to other means (referee, doctor etc). Of course he'd say to the player in private what they did wrong but he didn't used to be one for making faults public.
In the past year that changed with the Matic incident in October becoming very memorable and papers going on about how he lost the dressing room then. The media are already sensing blood after five games this season and see what he said about Shaw as something they can use to say "look everyone, he's losing the plot already!" no matter how true/untrue it is.
Plenty in the media want Mourinho to fail - he's made a few enemies as did SAF. And SAF was also not averse to criticising the odd player in public now and then.
It's a non story but the press are trying to conjure up a crisis. Judging by a lot of posts in here so are plenty of others.
Did anyone say any of the two were poor LBs? Shaw is a good LB with the talent to be a great one. Defensively he is already very good, but he lacks a little going forwards.
Was hardly a rant.
Hang on, isn't this the same guy that was getting praised for his performances before his broken leg? I am prepared to give him time to rediscover that form. If only because we don't really have any other credible options in that position, in my humble opinion. If he does regain his form, and I am sure he will, we will have one of the best left backs in the league.
Hang on a second here....
He's sensitive about being told to close down and do his job?! unbelievable
We really have become everything we hate.
If some of our players are this sensitive towards being told to do their jobs, did they go home and cry after the City game?
He's sensitive about being told to close down and do his job?! unbelievable
We really have become everything we hate.
If some of our players are this sensitive towards being told to do their jobs, did they go home and cry after the City game?
If he's that sensitive, he's in the wrong business. He's a fecking man ffs.
'Mean Mou picks on England's next generation of brave heroes'
Very unlike you to become over dramatic. This is far more serious than I thought.
Interested to know how Henry Winter knows Shaw is sensitive to criticism.
It's a non story and I'd be surprised if the players really are outraged. Still. There was no need to state it in a broadcasted post match interview though. Mourinho should have taken the blame infront of the cameras, and gone mental at the players in private.
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