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2016-17 Performances


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6.0 Season Average Rating
Appearances
19
Clean sheets
8
Goals
0
Assists
1
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His positioning has never been the best, but he has enough recovery pace to mask it.

See Smalling for similar
 
That might have something to do with not playing an awful lot, he did spend the majority of last season on the sidelines. In general his use of the ball in an attacking sense its actually quite good. Good cut backs, cross or pass.
It'a bang average and nowhere near good enough for a team that wants to be elite, no where near comparable compared to Alba, Alaba, Marcelo, Ricardo Rodriguez, Gaya and even Rose.
 
His positioning has never been the best, but he has enough recovery pace to mask it.

See Smalling for similar

His positioning is good. Fullbacks will often find themselves in the wrong side of the pitch due to the nature of their position. Even Alves, evra, Lahm and all in their prime faced this
 
I remember last year he was attacking a lot more than this year. Right now it's partially down to Martial not using his fullback as much, and he seems reluctant because that's how he injured himself.
 
My MOTM today.
Are you blind? He played a part in conceding 2 goals . First he assumes martial wins the ball and then goes forward, martial is helpless, gets fouled and watford score.
Second goal gave too much space to amarbat to cross made no attempt to stop the ball. Had little to no attacking input. I dont know how can he be anyone's motm. More like defensive blunder of the match.
 
Hes easing himself back into the team which can be seen. Im still shocked that hes playing and starting for us given what happened to him and the lack of reserve games.
Hes done well for us and I think theres defo more to come.
 
His positioning is good. Fullbacks will often find themselves in the wrong side of the pitch due to the nature of their position. Even Alves, evra, Lahm and all in their prime faced this

Shaw will never reach Alves or Lahms level, and I doubt he'll reach Evras either.

Don't think he has the intelligence as a player. Another player blessed physically, but without that wouldn't be anything special technique wise.
 
I thought he was the only player who played alright today in attack.
 
It'a bang average and nowhere near good enough for a team that wants to be elite, no where near comparable compared to Alba, Alaba, Marcelo, Ricardo Rodriguez, Gaya and even Rose.

Shaw will never reach Alves or Lahms level, and I doubt he'll reach Evras either.

Don't think he has the intelligence as a player. Another player blessed physically, but without that wouldn't be anything special technique wise.

I criticised him a few posts up but this is totally out of context and hyperbole.

Firstly those left backs you've mentioned play in highly organised AND expansive teams that dominate possession and have 10 times the amount of movement our team has. Considering his lack of game time and the shiteness we've conjured up this season, he's done ok.

Again he deserves criticism for his lack of adventure but there are many things to discuss about before that.

Things like how Mourinho says we have width from the full backs but they are often left isolated (because everyone is so narrow). One wrong pass, dribble or cross and the opposition are literally waiting to counter. Shaw's lack of adventure has as much to do with that being at the back of his head couped with the fact we don't play any natural wingers or players who go down the byline.

I'm not saying Alba isn't nothing without Neymar, or Alaba without Costa/Robben/Ribbery/Coman, Marcelo without Ronaldo/Bale etc etc but that has a massive effect.

Secondly, Shaw has way above average and imo good technique. To say he's just an athlete is diminishing the subtelty of his plays and reading of the game (which yes is still fairly inexperienced).

Shaw is miles above Valencia in the technique and intelligence stakes. His effectiveness would double fold in a coherent team.
 
Well, he is still the best FB we have though. I don't think it was soley his fault for both goals. Even if he pressed and got the ball from their wingers, there should never be huge amount of space in the middle right in front of our goal.

Also not all players can get things right all the time, it is a team game. The whole team needs to do it right. It is easy to criticize defenders in hindsight.

Anyway, seems like it was his turn to get picked on by the manager. He even brought up the one from 2 games ago for who knows what purpose. Players might stop listening to him all together instead of getting the opposite effect. Would not be new though.
 
I'm so happy he's back after that injury and he hasn't missed a step. He's been our most consistent player so far, so solid defensively and he gets up and contributes to the attack like a quality full back should.
Long may it continue.
 
Has only shown glimpses of what he's able to do in the last 2 years. Tony V is doing a far better job on the right. He needs to up his game if he wants that starting spot.
 
Don't understand all the praise for Shaw. It was his fault that cost us the first goal. Should've stayed back and defended.
 
Don't understand all the praise for Shaw. It was his fault that cost us the first goal. Should've stayed back and defended.
Easy to say that in Hindsight, but Martial picked the ball up in plenty of space, he should have turned and made the forward pass. I think the concussion clearly dazed him and he just took forever to decide what to do.

Obviously by that point everybody had cleared up the pitch and left us pretty stranded. It's a shame but it happens.

People blaming him for the 2nd goal are just being stupid. That's between Pogba + fellaini. Pogba doesn't track the runner who crosses, then Fellaini comes across to meet the runner and loses the man in the box. If everybody tracked their men properly it wouldn't have happened.

Easy to say "oh Shaw should have got much tighter" but he was against Amrabat who is clearly very quick, he gave Shaw a good race all game. If he got too tight he could have skipped passed him. He had him pretty contained if everybody else did their jobs correctly.
 
Possibly the only one who wasn't tumescent yesterday.
Bare in mind, outside of that very brief spell at the start of last season Shaw (or any of our players) have operated in a team that has a good shout at being the most poorly coached outfit in the league, and has only been in real form once
I look forward to see Shaw in a team one day.
 
Why do we keep playing injured players?

Hazard at Chelsea with the whole Carneiro saga comes to mind...
 
Rojo against Leicester and Liverpool. Kill me now.
 
His positioning is good. Fullbacks will often find themselves in the wrong side of the pitch due to the nature of their position. Even Alves, evra, Lahm and all in their prime faced this
In truth, Evra seemed to give attackers a yard on him because he knew he would outrun them if they tried to break on the outside. Shaw seems to give similar space, but although he is very fast, I don't see him as blistering as a young Evra and certainly not as aggressive in the tackle.
 
Why doesn't he challenge their fullbacks more in foot races? He showed yesterday he was much faster than Janmaat; I wish he just put on his afterburners and ran past them. He did that earlier in the season, and it worked. Must not be so afraid of losing the ball in attack. Same applies for Valencia.
 
Why doesn't he challenge their fullbacks more in foot races? He showed yesterday he was much faster than Janmaat; I wish he just put on his afterburners and ran past them. He did that earlier in the season, and it worked. Must not be so afraid of losing the ball in attack. Same applies for Valencia.
Because he was playing with a groin injury.
 
If he's out then Blind, Young and Rojo, in that order.
 
Quite painful to think that I'd rather have Buttner in the squad right now.
 
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