So glad we signed this guy. Was excellent for the U21's earlier.
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I heard he hit the post?
He's going to be the best left back in the world in a few years.
Decent enough half. Not outstanding but he's done his job.
Good for him to get this game time too.
Good for him to get this game time too.
He's just so composed I love him. The only thing i'd say is he seems like he could give so much more, someone like Rafael always seems to give that extra 10%, maybe its just me but I think we can still get even more out of him.
Thought he showed some decent energy second half, getting up and down with a few sprints here and there, looks so comfortable on the ball, I thought Hughes was also very good for the u-21's, not juts his goal.
I haven't watch the U21 games, but reading comments here, he made a mistake for a goal, but was excellent apart from that? Against Everton he also conceded the pen, but ppl were happy apart from that. I know he is young and all that, but if he is making one vital mistake per game against not even the toughest opposition or best players, then I somehow fail to see how he is excellent. Decent maybe ...
Good logic, captain.
My god.
Mistakes like that are part of growing up as a player.
He's natural talent, but there are things you must learn in order to fulfill your potential such is positional awareness which lead Shaw in making those mistakes.
He'll come good, we just have to be patient with him like any other young player.
What sets him apart from the rest of young players in that even after making mistake he didn't sulk and tried to play safe for the rest of the match(es), but he continued as nothing happened, determined something like that doesn't happen again, which only means he has great mentality so those mistakes will eventually dissapear from his game.
Great logic.
All I am asking is how he has been excellent while making vital mistakes. I swear if Rojo or Jones make similar mistakes ppl are quick to question them, but God forbid someone says anything against St. Luke.
Because he's fecking 19 and will become a fecking world beater.
Yep 2 mistakes in 2 games definatly proves that he will make at least 1 vital mistake in every game he plays. Maybe spread out the sample size before deciding that.
Yep. Seemed to be just about the only fullback that Januzaj couldn't trouble last season.
'kinell. He has been good. Take our word for it!
We said that about Jones too when he was 19/20. I have just not been too impressed and found we overpaid a lot especially in wages. He might turn out to be a world beater, but he might as well not. I find him a bit overrated by our own fans, he is a good player with potential but has all to prove obviously at a big club.
Then you should just stop watching young players because every of them is the same.They all will make mistakes at some points and they all have something to prove.As long as he can turn out to be a first choice left back for us in the next 10 years it will be worth the money.There is something called long-term investment.
Well we don't have to wait long for a first proper judgement, Chelsea and City are coming soon.
Only time will tell what kind of player he'll turn out to be, but better stay positive and support him than being negative and sceptical.
Nope, because not every young player is deemed a future world beater without having proven much so far.
Well I am not planning to boo him next time I am at OT so no worries ...
Yes but 2 mistakes in 2 games doesn't automatically mean he will continue at that pace. For all we know the could be the only 2 mistakes he makes all season. If he has played , say 7 games and made a vital mistake in each game then I'll be concerned but not yet.
Not sure if you're talking about Jones or Shaw. Jones has been halted by constant injuries but he's still only 22, that's like 5 years off his peak maybe more. If you're referring to Shaw, he's missed 7 games due to injuries in his entire senior career. The fee has been paid and the wages are set, can he at least play half a season for us before we start labeling him (a 19-year old) a failure, completely disregarding the fact that he's played only 2 out of perhaps a few hundred games for us?
Shaw is already better at defending than Jones right now, never mind comparisons at the age of 19. You don't really know what wage he's on, and I'm inclined to believe it isn't nearly enough as has been previously reported. As for being overrated, I don't really follow. The guy just knows how to defend and has demonstrated that in his two seasons at Southampton. He's as sure a thing you'll ever see, future injuries notwithstanding.
Of course, you're right in saying he has it all to prove, but I think that's exactly what he'll do.
I was talking about Shaw. And where have I labeled him a failure? Stop overreacting, there are several levels between a "failure" and "(potential) world class".
Mistakes? You can hardly call it mistakes if the scorer made excellent runs at both times.
You've already made up your mind that we've overpaid for him, not only in fee but also in wages 2 competitive games since joining, who's overreacting?
I have stated before we signed him and when it looked that Chelsea might get him that I don't want us to sign him for that much and I would have preferred other left backs in Europe anyway, especially Coentrao. But now he is here obviously and isn't going anywhere, but that doesn't mean I have to call him excellent when I don't think he has been that.
At least we are finally bringing in some proper english talent, unlike our recent forays with Jones, and Smalling
Shaw looks the real deal, been really impressed with his tackling in one on one situations
Shaw looks the real deal, been really impressed with his tackling in one on one situations
Oh right. You're one of those gimps who won't give a new signing a chance because you moaned about him being linked with us in the first place. Explains the shocker you've had on this last page of the thread.
So the fact that the top teams in England wanted both means nothing?
I can understand all of that and i'm not saying that he has been excellent or that you can't criticize his performances, but you can't say that he won't justify his fee after only 2 games for us. If he was supposedly a finished article such as Coentrao or someone like him who's played at the highest level for several years then maybe there'd be more cause for concern, but even then it'd be really premature to make such judgements after such a short time.
Nope, I haven't moaned about any other of our new signings at all, and you really are the last poster here to tell anyone about having a shocker.
Again I have not said he won't justify his fee, the same way I find it hilarious ppl thinking he will definitely be a world beater and thus justify his fee, but let's wait and see first. If he wasn't English then I doubt we would even have gone for him. Maybe he steps up and can take the challenge at United, but it's just a completely different thing if you play for Southhampton or United where ppl expect good performances.
Read your post again and you might find it out yourself.
We signed Rio for £30M at a young age and look at how that turned out. Signing Shaw is a long-term investment and a calculated gamble at £27M. If he develops as expected and reaches anywhere near his enormity of potential he will be a steal that will offer us ten-plus years of service.
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