Agreed.
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Just like Antonio isnt shipped out, or Young, or Clevz.. It is much easier to play well with someone like Vidic, Ferdinand in their prime covering for your stupidities, now he is on his own, we all see how poor he is. It's just the overrating of an academy player all over again.
Yeah it's wearing thin.
That's just lazy posting to say Rio and Vida covered his errors. When we went on that 4 month clean sheet run in the team in 2009, I believe he made the most appearances of all our defenders in that period.
IMO, Jones > Evans > Smalling
I think that it would be more fair to judge him in a month or so once he's fully back to form. Rio's been a much bigger liability in defence over the last couple of seasons than Evans who's had one of the best periods of his career in the 12/13 season where he was brilliant. Any CB is reliant on their partner and he and Vidic complemented eachother very well just like Rio and Vidic did in their prime. While he's started this campaign very poorly, he also saved us from conceding against QPR and he looked as if he was gaining confidence as the game wore on, hopefully a sign that he's regaining some form. I have alot of faith in him but it all comes down to if he can stay fit.
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Cleverley was shipped out and I would bet that if clubs showed any interest so would Valencia and Young have been. Evans played next to both Rio and Vidic over the last year or two where neither were at their prime and looked solid. To say that Rio was covering is errors makes it clear that you have an agenda against Evans when Rio was our most error prone defender over the last two seasons.
Again, I can see the arguments in favour of Jones and Smalling. Both have huge potential and if they fulfill that there is no reason why they couldn't force their way past Evans. Obviously, for some of you, they already have. But for me, if we had a game against a top four team at the moment I'd want Evans as one of our centre halves. Evans is far from perfect and there is no doubt he'll make the odd mistake. But so will every centre half.
Also, it's not over rating an academy player in the slightest. It's judging a player on his performances for the first team over 3/4 seasons. He has proven himself to be a top centre half and that's why he continues to start matches for us. Until he doesn't, then while you may say I'm wrong or my opinion doesn't count, it seems to be the same opinon that Fergie and Moyes had and now van Gaal has. That Evans is a top class centre half.
Surprised he's not started again.
Yeah, from the looks of things he is clearly not seen as a 30 million pound player by LVG.
Hopefully he gets some minutes today.
Will he ever play? He's a left back who knows how to defend.
Should have been on at half time, surely must start next week.
Poor kid. He was so good last season and now can't even get game time with the rest of our defense looking absentee. Surely he plays next week?
Why isn't he playing? He's the best left back we have by far. I don't know what he's doing at the training ground but I really doubt he's regressed that much after two stellar seasons in the PL. He's fit too, played in the reserves last week. The feck is LvG playing at?
Better be in the side next week.
He must play next week with the injuries and Blacketts suspension.
We need him ASAP.
Van Gaal probably wanted to keep Blackett in the team because of his good form early in the season. And since Rojo was available to play first he got the nod a t LB over Shaw. He will probably definitely start next week.
Why isn't he starting, strange from LVG.
I expect him to play next week.
Why the hell isn't he playing it's incredibly frustrating considering our defensive frailties.
LVG has said it's fitness related hasn't he? Or was that a while back now?
I think he would have been brought on if the game hadn't taken the disastrous turn for the worse that it did.
I think he would have been brought on if the game hadn't taken the disastrous turn for the worse that it did.
Yeah. Didn't have a reason to drop any of them and would have probably been harsh on blackett and not send a good message to drop him. Not anymore of course. Awful game from all our defenders but once Shaw comes in, Rojo moves to the middle I think they'll all be better.
He really really needs to be playing. Have I missed some sort of reason for him not?
It's simply time. Our defence is the worst part of our team at the moment. We've given chances to all of them but we need to assemble our first team together from the back now. Shaw has proven himself as a top class LB in this league and he does know how to defend against these types of attackers. Must be a starter while we work on strengthening the middle.
He should have played today. He's a very good defender and the improvement he'll make should be a noticeable one.
That answers that then. He didn't start because of fitness and presumably didn't come on because of the way the game unfolded.
Ha has to start at LB in the next game with Rojo probably as a CB. I see LVG has already said that, that's good.
I think he'll come in, and as long as he stays fit, he'll play every remaining game in the league. As we're playing musical chairs with CBs, we could do with having consistency at fullback at least.
Smalling, Jones and Rojo should be playing for the 2 centre back positions from now. We need to start playing Shaw and see what he's made of.
I'm sorry, but that doesn't cut it for me. Right now, we only have the League to focus on, so he better starts throwing the kitchen sink in every time. That strongly implies that our best players must stay on the pitch at all times and play the fecking game so we can get results.
He needs to start playing Rojo in the middle with Shaw on the left. Not that we have much choice mind you.
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm sure LVG would love to keep our best players on the pitch at all times, but if their fitness isn't up to it then he's not exactly going to push them too hard is he?
I'm referring to the fact that some of our best elements are benched while others who should be there still keep playing. For the record, I would have thrown Shaw into the action at some point today because it was obvious that we sucked at the back.
For the record, we are not the only team that needs its best players to be on the pitch in order to stand a chance of winning and meeting our objectives.
It wasn't possible to bring Shaw on though because of our injury/fitness issues. Evans, di Maria and Falcao all came off because of fitness reasons. The only way Shaw could have been worked into that was if he came on for Evans and Rojo moved inside. Perhaps he wasn't ready to play an hour or more likely LVG didn't want a left footed partnership of Rojo and Blackett.
LVG's hand was forced with the subs today and I think Shaw will start next week.
''I think Shaw shall be fit enough to play (against West Ham) and Rojo and Smalling can play. We can manage."
- Van Gaal.
- Van Gaal.
Now we will see if we have bought a good LB. Will be great to see him play.
Hoping he gets a good run of games before he's judged, he hasn't played much football so I am not expecting much from him if he starts against West Ham.
If he plays well, that will be him set for the season, if LvG has any sense. Luke knows how to defend and actually his size is one of his greatest assests, he won't be easy to bully.
We have been shite at the back so I don't why he hasn't featured yet, If Blackett wasn't suspended for the West Ham game I think he might have stayed on the bench.
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