Each time I visit this thread my hope is that there will be a discussion of his footballing exploits or news about him recovering from injury, but it's always about his booty, bad choice of pants and his lack of knowledge about players who played before he was born. I don't remember any players from the 80s, so why should Shaw remember any from the 90s? (born early 80s)
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Tbf I don't remember anything from WC '94 & '98 and I'm 22. I probably wouldn't remember anything from WC 2006 if I was put on the spot like that in an interview.
24 and remember perfectly well who Tony Adams was.
I suppose we live in an idealistic world where we think footballers actually give a shit about football.
I suppose we live in an idealistic world where we think footballers actually give a shit about football.
I'm a year older than Luke Shaw and I know feck all about Tony Adams either. I only know who he is since he retired from football forums really. The only players I really know from the 90s are United and Irish players and some top strikers like Owen and Shearer. Even the 2002 World Cup I can't say I particularly remember watching any of it. I can tell you Brazil won and Ireland were knocked out in the round of 16 to Spain in penalties but I don't remember actually watching those. The only thing I can actually remember from the 2002 WC is Keano getting in a row with Mick McCarthy and him not playing. So if Luke is only a casual football fan then you can't really expect him to know players who retired when he was 7 and played for a team he didn't support.
He does seems a bit thick tbh 
Makes Rooney seem like the brain of Britain at times.
Makes Rooney seem like the brain of Britain at times.
Not a surprise, many footballers are thick as pigshit and the english footballers on average tend to have less footballing knowledge on average than their european counterparts. Loving the history of the game doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be a better footballer.. makes you a more likeable footballer though. Herrera for example.. the passion for the game is there in his interviews, he's like a fan living the dream... not all players are like that.
Nothing to do with the nationality of players. A lot of footballers barely watch any football. I've seen pundits first hand who haven't got a clue what's being talked about. That's coming both from the ex-professionals and the current ones. People were laughing a lot about it a few years ago when Balotelli didn't have a clue who Wilshere was. That's how it is like for most players. A lot of them just focus on themselves and/or on their team. When you live it day to day it's understandable that you're not really into watching football much or following what's happening in other leagues.
Assou-Ekotto is a prime example of footballers who don't watch or like football. He's been pretty vocal about how he views football as just a job where he earns money to support his family.
It's not out of the realms of possibility that Shaw (making a huge assumption here) doesn't watch that much football when he's not training/playing himself.
You are 5 years older than him, how are you relating?
Adams retired 12 years ago, Shaw would have been 7 at the time. No shame in not knowing who he is. I was six at the time of world cup 1994, I couldn't tell you who was in the England team back then.
Sometimes i find the Benoit assou ekotto mindset quite refreshing, hates football, sees it as purely a job, and turns up for Post match interviews baked off his mind.
I'm sorry but what is this based on?
Shaw doesn't know Tony Adams and Fabio Cannavaro wasn't sure Martin O'Neill had ever even played. There are players of all nationalities who aren't football gurus. Cannavaro could hardly even name a current English player other than Rooney.
Don't blame Cannavaro to be fair, you'd be hard pressed to consider anyone in the England team a footballer.
Life experiences, people I've worked alongside/met - so it comes from a skewed perspective admittedly. Nor did I say every European has great football knowledge.. I said on average in my experience, it is greater (only in footballer circle's mind you), football fans is a different kettle of fish.
Ask Cannavaro about Italian greats, if he still doesn't know - lord knows how he got that world cup gig.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...st-Queens-Park-Rangers-in-Premier-League.html
Looks set to be back vs. QPR.
Looks set to be back vs. QPR.
Imagine him linking up with Di Maria/Januzaj on the left..
May make his debut vs Qpr.
Looking forward to seeing him again. After a shaky start, I really liked what we saw in pre-season.
Would be great if he starts. He's going to be a fine player for us.
Is he fit? I've been hearing mixed messages.
He's thick for not knowing who Adams is, who played when he was like 4 or 5?
It's just a bit surprising for an professional English footballer not to know who Tony Adams is. I'd expect that the vast majority of teenagers who have an interest in football would know who Adams is. Wasn't it only 5 year ago he was managing Portsmouth in the Premier League.
I don't even remember him managing
just knew he was an arsenal legend.The real weird thing is that Lampard didn't mentionned Keown, Parlour or Seaman.
I'm a year younger than you, and not English, but off the top of my head I could guess:
Seaman, Ince, Gascoigne, Sheringham, Beardsley
, Campbell, Shearer, Le Tissier probably, and Ian Wright tooI don't know who Tony Adams is. Neither should he. Lampard has nearly double of Shaw's age.
Thick as pigshit obviously but luckily we don't pay him to be clever. How the feck he cannot know who Tony Adams is is beyond me. Mind you Shaw is from the Twitter & FIFA generation though isn't he.
He probably knows who he is, just I'm guessing lampard meant something like he never saw him play. I'm a bosnian who lives in canada and only a year or 2 older then Shaw and I know who he is ffs.
Doubt that even Tony Adams knew who he was most of the time when he was younger. He lost a few weekends for sure.
I'm a year younger than you, and not English, but off the top of my head I could guess:
Seaman, Ince, Gascoigne, Sheringham, Beardsley
I could guess but apart from Shearer and Seaman I couldnt tell you for sure.
I'm a few years older than Shaw and Australian and I know who Adams is. Although that would largely be from manager games and just study of the game. It's a little surprising he's never heard of him at all but it doesn't really matter.
Anyway, hope he makes his debut against QPR. Even if he struggles a little bit. As long as he shows something. I am tired of Valencia and Young not giving us any penetration.
Anyway, hope he makes his debut against QPR. Even if he struggles a little bit. As long as he shows something. I am tired of Valencia and Young not giving us any penetration.
I hoped Tony Adams talk would die till now but I was wrong.
So he doesnt know who Adams is, who the f. cares?
Maybe he was just trolling Lampard anyway.
So he doesnt know who Adams is, who the f. cares?
Maybe he was just trolling Lampard anyway.
All he needs to know is who his next opponent is and what their strengths and weaknesses are. Knowing who Adams is won't help him in the next 90 minutes.
Maybe I misunderstood but wasn't he meant to play today or did LvG just say he could play today?
He was fit to play 'some minutes' but not a full match is what LVG said, our defence was playing too good to take anyone off.
Pundits, journalists and commentators keep talking about our defense but when Shaw comes into the mix, we've got him at LB, Rojo and Evans at CB and Rafael at right back which will be a massive improvement on what we've seen during these opening games. We've seen what we lacked on that right side and this game was an example of that when Rafael was taken off for Valencia, that right side became unproductive. Rojo is very good defensively on that left side but Shaw is a much better attacking player and in turn Rojo is a much better CB. The thing that really excites me is the pace, out of our back 4 we've got 3 extremely fast players in Shaw, Rafael and Rojo.
Put Jones in next to Rojo instead of Evans and you have another strong and fast player. Evans doesn't fill me with confidence and makes mistakes pretty much every game, Jones though has started the season really well and I think he can really form a good partnership with Rojo.
I'd even rather Blackett than Evans! He's been piss poor.
Shaw will be in the team as soon as he is fit, absolutely no doubt in my mind.
Wouldn't be surprised to see him start next week as well. I think he went to warm up after Falcao and probably would've been introduced but then Di maria went down with cramp. He'll have another full week to recover and hopefully get a start. Will bring loads of pace and power, and more running on the ball to the left side. Him and Di Maria/Januzaj will be a devastating partnership on the left these next few years I think.
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