Lukaku - transfer speculation | Gone

[Bilbo]

Does anyone believe Lukaku has really been injured? I'm not sure if he's playing some game or if Ole has decided to keep him off the spotlight until his future is decided.

This situation is bad for the player himself because if he stays, there is no chance he will be anywhere near the first 11 in the first month or 2, all of the other attackers have had a proper pre-season, bar Sanchez, who is also a bit of an unknown right now, but Ole has hinted he will get a chance up front as we don't require a giant of a striker in our system anymore.

Everything that's happened so far suggest that (a) he is injured or more likely (b) his time here is up and we see no reason to disrupt our pre-season by giving him minutes and depriving others.

Inter are doing the 'this is all I've got on me, honest mate' dance at the moment but they will come up with an acceptable offer, and I suspect United will accept something in the high 60's as long as we get most of it up front.

I have no issue with Lukaku staying by the way. He has his limitations but is chronically underrated on here and I always like to have different options in the squad. You can't get much different than Rashford/Lukaku and there will be moments this season, many in fact, where will we need someone like him in the team.

He needs to lose a stone though. To me it's completely unacceptable for a professional athlete to be in less than optimal condition.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Any pictures of him being unfit from the pre-season tour?

Looks like we need to get the Blue Square Blimp back in service as we need aerial photograph.

So that we don't waste time arguing, what is your definition of 'World Class'? Maybe our not clarifying that is the problem.

Mine, generally speaking without any established technical definition, is a player who is just about top 25 in his position. In that case, I rank Lukaku as one of the best strikers in the world. And to be clear, what is most important for me in a striker, is the ability to stick the ball at the back of the net, something Lukaku's career, since he was 18, has been brilliant at despite a poor season with United.

But do we need a better striker at United, I say yes.

Clearly there’s no definition - and what is World Class is constantly debated.

However, I think that your net is cast far too wide - by your criteria, there are 25 WC strikers, midfielder (Attack/ Dec mid?), CBs, FBs and keepers - that’s at least 125 world class players? I think that’s nuts.

I would say a World Class player is a player that would get into any team in the world. So whilst there may be 7,8,9 World Class strikers, clearly they aren’t at the same club. So Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi, Kane, Mbappe are all World Class strikers - and there’s no club that wouldn’t want any of those players in their team (transfer fee, attitude, previous history aside).

I can’t think of any top team that would take Lukuku. City, Liverpool, Real, Athletico, PSG. Juventus, Bayern Barca etc wouldn’t want to go near him, he’s not good enough.

By my logic, would the above teams take Pogba if he was available - all of them would, he’s a World Class player.

Lukuku has only scored 20+ league goals once on his career. He’s accumulated a lot of goals as he’s been around a long time. But 1 goal in 23 appearances against the top 6 for Utd shows when you dig into the detail, he can only score against poor teams - he’s a flat track bully.

I think he'd be a great striker in a very dominant team such as Real Madrid or Manchester City. In a team where every player has to pull their weight he falls short almost every time.

Lukuku would disrupt the attack of a team like City or Madrid. The only way he really works is for a team on the back foot, and who can break behind a defence on the counter - that doesn’t happen with a dominant team.

 

[GM K]

How exactly do you define Lukaku as WC though? His finishing is inferior to Cole let alone the top dogs in that line (RVN, Batigol, Inzaghi etc). His first touch is horrible. His technique is meah. He's got good physical strength but he's no beast like Vieri and lets face it, the typical Championship striker has that same strength. His pace is half decent but he's no Rashford let alone an Anelka.

The combination of his skills makes him a decent player IF used in the correct system. However he's no WC player. Also assuming that there are 10 top clubs in the world (Liverpool, Man United, Shitty, Chelsea, Juventus, Bayern, Barcelona, Real, PSG, Atletico, Spurs) most of whom have 1 main striker each, then being part of that 25 top strikers doesn't even qualify you as big club material let alone WC.

I don't think Lukaku is the rubbish striker you described just because he had a poor season at United.

Belgium is the highest ranked footballing nation in the world at the moment and Lukaku is their top dog. He is their highest scoring striker of all time (48 goals in 81). That counts for something. He scored over 50 premier league goals before he turned 23. (One of only about five players to have done so) He is the fifth youngest player to have scored 100 goals in the premier league.

You asked me why I think he is WC. I already stated why in my earlier post and I'll the above to it. Like I said, the problem here is how we both define WC, which is very subjective. I never said he is at the Suarez, Lewandowski, Aguero levels. I even said United should go for a better striker. But on the basis of his career so far (not last season at United), Lukaku is WC in my opinion.

 

[Alemar]

Belgium is the highest ranked footballing nation in the world at the moment and Lukaku is their top dog. He is their highest scoring striker of all time (48 goals in 81). That counts for something. He scored over 50 premier league goals before he turned 23. (One of only about five players to have done so) He is the fifth youngest player to have scored 100 goals in the premier league.

Did you see Lukaku last season? Many would agree his performance was...well... let’s say average at best.

Now please look at the clips from our pre-season tour. The guy looks to be 15 kilograms heavier than last season.

All you have written refers to the past, but we are talking about Lukaku of now...

 

[GM K]

Looks like we need to get the Blue Square Blimp back in service as we need aerial photograph.



Clearly there’s no definition - and what is World Class is constantly debated.

However, I think that your net is cast far too wide - by your criteria, there are 25 WC strikers, midfielder (Attack/ Dec mid?), CBs, FBs and keepers - that’s at least 125 world class players? I think that’s nuts.

I would say a World Class player is a player that would get into any team in the world. So whilst there may be 7,8,9 World Class strikers, clearly they aren’t at the same club. So Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi, Kane, Mbappe are all World Class strikers - and there’s no club that wouldn’t want any of those players in their team (transfer fee, attitude, previous history aside).

I can’t think of any top team that would take Lukuku. City, Liverpool, Real, Athletico, PSG. Juventus, Bayern Barca etc wouldn’t want to go near him, he’s not good enough.

By my logic, would the above teams take Pogba if he was available - all of them would, he’s a World Class player.

Lukuku has only scored 20+ league goals once on his career. He’s accumulated a lot of goals as he’s been around a long time. But 1 goal in 23 appearances against the top 6 for Utd shows when you dig into the detail, he can only score against poor teams - he’s a flat track bully.



Lukuku would disrupt the attack of a team like City or Madrid. The only way he really works is for a team on the back foot, and who can break behind a defence on the counter - that doesn’t happen with a dominant team.

Okay, I get you now.

I try to avoid debates on subjective criteria.

From the way you have described how you define WC, then I largely agree with you.

I have a wider net for the definition, hence my conclusion. For me, Lukaku is his country's highest goal scorer ever (Belgium is the highest ranked football team in the world at the moment just in case someone says Belgium is not Brazil), he was the second highest goal scorer at the world cup last year, he is one of the premier league's best scorers ever (he is the 19th best scorer in Premier League history. Better than Wright, Giggs, Drogba, Van Pierce and his current manager)and just the season before now, he was the leading striker of the team that came second in the Premier League. It is hard to convince me Lukaku is rubbish in view of these records just because he had a bad season with us.

 

[Ballist1x]

He just needs to get fit. He's a type of striker we don't have otherwise.

 

[clarkydaz]

Okay, I get you now.

I have a wider net for the definition, hence my conclusion. For me, Lukaku is his country's highest goal scorer ever (Belgium is the highest ranked football team in the world at the moment just in case someone says Belgium is not Brazil), he was the second highest goal scorer at the world cup last year, he is one of the premier league's best scorers ever (he is the 19th best scorer in Premier League history. Better than Wright, Giggs, Drogba, Van Pierce and his current manager)and just the season before now, he was the leading striker of the team that came second in the Premier League. It is hard to convince me Lukaku is rubbish in view of these records just because he had a bad season with us.

you are seriously comparing him to these players? Lukaku's whole career is scoring against dross

 

[GM K]

Did you see Lukaku last season? Many would agree his performance was...well... let’s say average at best.

Now please look at the clips from our pre-season tour. The guy looks to be 15 kilograms heavier than last season.

All you have written refers to the past, but we are talking about Lukaku of now...

I get you but it is unfair to judge a player's career based on a current bad patch.

But again, I repeat what I have posted before, if a player does not want to stay at United, by all means, sell him. That's my own philosophy. Also, if a manger does not want a player, let the player be sold unless the club does not want the manager. Clearly, Ole does not fancy Lukaku so no need considering keeping him.

 

[DoomSlayer]

He just needs to get fit. He's a type of striker we don't have otherwise.

Right now, Lukaku isn't fit to even be on the bench.

 

[GM K]

you are seriously comparing him to these players? Lukaku's whole career is scoring against dross

Come on, there was a clear basis for the comparison. Don't read meanings I did not put there. Of course, those are superior players to Lukaku considering all things.

 

[clarkydaz]

Come on, there was a clear basis for the comparison. Don't read meanings I did not put there. Of course, those are superior players to Lukaku considering all things.

all those players were known for turning up and scoring in big games. Lukaku doesn't

 

[devilish]

I don't think Lukaku is the rubbish striker you described just because he had a poor season at United.

Belgium is the highest ranked footballing nation in the world at the moment and Lukaku is their top dog. He is their highest scoring striker of all time (48 goals in 81). That counts for something. He scored over 50 premier league goals before he turned 23. (One of only about five players to have done so) He is the fifth youngest player to have scored 100 goals in the premier league.

You asked me why I think he is WC. I already stated why in my earlier post and I'll the above to it. Like I said, the problem here is how we both define WC, which is very subjective. I never said he is at the Suarez, Lewandowski, Aguero levels. I even said United should go for a better striker. But on the basis of his career so far (not last season at United), Lukaku is WC in my opinion.

I never said that he is shit in fact I said that he is a decent striker. However he is faaaar from WC

 

[Leftback99]

I wouldn't be surprised if we need the Lukaku funds to spend elsewhere. I doubt a forward will be coming in if he goes.

 

[GM K]

I never said that he is shit in fact I said that he is a decent striker. However he is faaaar from WC

Fair enough. Let us agree to disagree on this. It is a matter of individual perspectives. I do get your points and feel some of them are valid.

 

[GM K]

all those players were known for turning up and scoring in big games. Lukaku doesn't

Again, like I said, those are superior players to Lukaku, all things considered.

 

[davidmichael]

If we sell Lukaku for £70-£80 million and sign either Pepe or Dybala for less we've literally stolen them, I think it's clear Ole isn't playing Lukaku because he's 100% done at the club.

It seems Ole has an actual plan with how he wants to play and a set style for which Lukaku doesn't fit, Ole wants high pressing and lots of pace with creativity and fluidity. Bringing in forwards like Pepe, Sancho or Dybala over the next couple of summers whilst moving on Lukaku, Sanchez and Mata is exactly the way we need to go.

 

[Alemar]

Bringing in forwards like Pepe, Sancho or Dybala over the next couple of summers whilst moving on Lukaku, Sanchez and Mata is exactly the way we need to go.

Ole actually extended Mata - whereas Mata definitely doesn't fit intensive pressing game style and lacks speed very badly.

If Ole wanted "high pressing and lots of pace with creativity and fluidity", Mata would be one of the first players to be released, especially provided there is Gomes to replace him here and now.

 

[davidmichael]

Ole actually extended Mata - whereas Mata definitely doesn't fit intensive pressing game style and lacks speed very badly.

If Ole wanted "high pressing and lots of pace with creativity and fluidity", Mata would be one of the first players to be released, especially provided there is Gomes to replace him here and now.

Ole doesn't deal with contracts as that's not his job but I'd imagine Mata was kept around when it was clear we'd not be doing the massive overhaul and squad rebuild that was said a few months ago, Mata barely played for the last few months of the season so I'd imagine is behind Lingard and Chong now and if we sign Pepe then Mata is no more than a back up option at best.

 

[romufc]

The negotiations for Maguire are taking two months because they're at a standstill. United want to pay X maximum and Leicester want X+£10m minimum. It's called an impasse and has no bearing on anyone's ability to negotiate.



His value will depreciate because:

a) He's 12 months older, meaning he has one less footballing year left in the tank for the buying club
b) He has 1 less year on his contract. A player with 2 years left has more leverage than a player with 3 years left
c) He'll spend more time on the bench than on the pitch. He'll go from a striker who averages 20+ goals a season with last year being a blip, to a striker with 25 goals in 2 years

The key thing you're missing is if we replace him we'll do so with someone who fits the managers profile and will improve the team. When we were purchasing Wan Bassaka we weren't looking at how much we could sell Young for to offset the cost because that's irrelevant.



If I bought a house for £500k and since found out there was subsidence that meant the house not only was worth far less than when I bought it, but also the value would reduce every year as the cost to rectify the problem increased; and added to that only one party was interested in taking on such a project... Then I'd be stupid to demand the exact fee I bought it for up front and be stuck with a house I can't live in.

If two offers came in for firstly £100k up front with a guarantee of £400k being paid on completion of the subsidence works and secondly for £400k up front with no further payments... Then I would consider my own financial position. If I were very wealthy and had £1m in my bank sat there already, then I'd prefer the first offer. If I were struggling and needed to buy my next house immediately then I'd take the £400k.

United in this position have hundreds of millions in their bank so should take the £9m up front with the guarantee of £53m in two years (obviously after trying to negotiate it up as much as possible).

That is the same position we are in with Inter, clearly they cannot afford a player. Ofcourse it is down to negotiation, every business / transfer deal is negotiation.

You have mentioned it yourself "obviously after trying to negotiate it up as much as possible".

Lukaku is a strike who scores goals, and will always score goals, he might be a year older but he is 26 so hitting his peak. Do you know what happens at peak? transfer values go up.

No mate, it's not subsidence, you just dont fancy the house anymore, that is what has happened with Lukaku, Ole doesnt fancy him, his numbers are still brilliant. He doesn't have a defect in terms of injuries or anything. So that comparison is void.

 

[giorno]

Lukaku is a strike who scores goals, and will always score goals, he might be a year older but he is 26 so hitting his peak. Do you know what happens at peak? transfer values go up.

If he ends up playing 20 games and scores 7-8 goals his value sure as feck won't go up

Right now it's clear that you're looking to sell, we'll see what happens if(when) he ends up staying. This has been an interesting summer so far, with a lot of big clubs trying and so far mostly failing to sell big players

 

[UncleBob]

That is the same position we are in with Inter, clearly they cannot afford a player. Ofcourse it is down to negotiation, every business / transfer deal is negotiation.

You have mentioned it yourself "obviously after trying to negotiate it up as much as possible".

Lukaku is a strike who scores goals, and will always score goals, he might be a year older but he is 26 so hitting his peak. Do you know what happens at peak? transfer values go up.

No mate, it's not subsidence, you just dont fancy the house anymore, that is what has happened with Lukaku, Ole doesnt fancy him, his numbers are still brilliant. He doesn't have a defect in terms of injuries or anything. So that comparison is void.

No.

 

[romufc]

If he ends up playing 20 games and scores 7-8 goals his value sure as feck won't go up

Right now it's clear that you're looking to sell, we'll see what happens if(when) he ends up staying. This has been an interesting summer so far, with a lot of big clubs trying and so far mostly failing to sell big players

I look at it in two ways - Lukaku stays and could add a different dimension when needed, never know he could pop up with important goals.

Secondly, I dont think at 27 his value will be less than £55m. That is going rate for a striker who scores goals. Newcastle signed a striker who scored 11 goals for £40m Perez to Leicester for £30m.


I think the reason no big player move has been successful is that clubs are vary of paying those wages. I have no doubt if Mbappe was ready for a move, someone will snap him up.

The ones we are talking about are Bale, Lukaku, Neymar etc - they have had injury concerns and the teams dont play they way those players do, they are luxury, not what is needed when teams are building.

 

[romufc]

No.

Let me put facts to you.
Lukaku:-

International apps 81 goals 48
Premier League apps 252 goals 113 assists 42
That is not defect, that is a very good goal scoring record.

 

[giorno]

Secondly, I dont think at 27 his value will be less than £55m. That is going rate for a striker who scores goals. Newcastle signed a striker who scored 11 goals for £40m Perez to Leicester for £30m.

First, that's still a £10 loss of value compared to inter's offer. Second, there's a reason only inter are interested in him, mainly, his wages. Few clubs can pay those. Thirdly you have to factor in the player's own wishes, a club like newcastle might be willing to pay £55m for him, but would he be willing to go there...and fourth, if he barely features for you there's going to be even less interest in him from those clubs who could both afford his wages and offer him the kind of profile he wouldn't refuse, not unless you offer him very cheap.

Hence why it will be interesting to see what role he will play for Ole. A Lukaku that plays a fair number of games, scores at a good rate and is generally involved and a fairly important piece of the plan has a certain value. A lukaku who is a bit part player is quite another story. Frankly i find the latter highly unlikely unless Lukaku himself "downs tools" as you guys are fond of saying, but that'd be a whole other story as well, but you never know. We've seen clubs do dumber things plenty of times

 

[Siorac]

That is the same position we are in with Inter, clearly they cannot afford a player. Ofcourse it is down to negotiation, every business / transfer deal is negotiation.

You have mentioned it yourself "obviously after trying to negotiate it up as much as possible".

Lukaku is a strike who scores goals, and will always score goals, he might be a year older but he is 26 so hitting his peak. Do you know what happens at peak? transfer values go up.

No mate, it's not subsidence, you just dont fancy the house anymore, that is what has happened with Lukaku, Ole doesnt fancy him, his numbers are still brilliant. He doesn't have a defect in terms of injuries or anything. So that comparison is void.

His numbers are decent for someone as limited as he is. He scores 0.45 goals per game which is below the rate of the actual top strikers. Lewandowski, for example, is at 0.64, Kane is at 0.56, Agüero is at 0.56. Icardi, another somewhat limited poacher, is at 0.53. Falcao's career average is 0.57. And I obviously haven't even touched the big two.

Lukaku is a decent but not outstanding goalscorer and doesn't do much else. In fact he has a very annoying habit of destroying attacks with his clumsiness.

 

[romufc]

First, that's still a £10 loss of value compared to inter's offer. Second, there's a reason only inter are interested in him, mainly, his wages. Few clubs can pay those. Thirdly you have to factor in the player's own wishes, a club like newcastle might be willing to pay £55m for him, but would he be willing to go there...and fourth, if he barely features for you there's going to be even less interest in him from those clubs who could both afford his wages and offer him the kind of profile he wouldn't refuse, not unless you offer him very cheap.

Hence why it will be interesting to see what role he will play for Ole. A Lukaku that plays a fair number of games, scores at a good rate and is generally involved and a fairly important piece of the plan has a certain value. A lukaku who is a bit part player is quite another story. Frankly i find the latter highly unlikely unless Lukaku himself "downs tools" as you guys are fond of saying, but that'd be a whole other story as well, but you never know. We've seen clubs do dumber things plenty of times

Whatever the case, the reason I would keep him is that I have 0 faith in the club to replace him, or make the money we get for him available to sign someone else

 

[doomy20]

I don´t get the gamble on his fitness at all. It is like having an "old" car which needs to be repaired to be able to drive but as you are looking for a new one you wait with the repair. And if you can´t buy a new one you don´t have enough time to repair the old one and are without a car for a month or so. Exactly this will happen with us and Lukaku. If he is still here by the end of August he will be unfit, not PL ready and as static and clumsy as ever. And will probably still start ahead of the youngsters ...

 

[romufc]

His numbers are decent for someone as limited as he is. He scores 0.45 goals per game which is below the rate of the actual top strikers. Lewandowski, for example, is at 0.64, Kane is at 0.56, Agüero is at 0.56. Icardi, another somewhat limited poacher, is at 0.53. Falcao's career average is 0.57. And I obviously haven't even touched the big two.

Lukaku is a decent but not outstanding goalscorer and doesn't do much else. In fact he has a very annoying habit of destroying attacks with his clumsiness.

The point I am trying to make is teams will pay for such numbers, considering he has done it at WBA and Everton.

The players you mention say at they were aged below 30. would you agree if a team went for them today the values would be:
Aguero - £120m plus
Kane - £150m
Icardi - £90m
The big two I wont mention either cause Ronaldo went for £100 at 33.

So valuing lukaku a year on at £60m would be fair?

 

[Houdini]

His numbers are decent for someone as limited as he is. He scores 0.45 goals per game which is below the rate of the actual top strikers. Lewandowski, for example, is at 0.64, Kane is at 0.56, Agüero is at 0.56. Icardi, another somewhat limited poacher, is at 0.53. Falcao's career average is 0.57. And I obviously haven't even touched the big two.

Lukaku is a decent but not outstanding goalscorer and doesn't do much else. In fact he has a very annoying habit of destroying attacks with his clumsiness.

The question is: Do we have a better option? Can we bring in a better replacement?

 

[giorno]

The point I am trying to make is teams will pay for such numbers, considering he has done it at WBA and Everton.

The players you mention say at they were aged below 30. would you agree if a team went for them today the values would be:
Aguero - £120m plus
Kane - £150m
Icardi - £90m
The big two I wont mention either cause Ronaldo went for £100 at 33.

So valuing lukaku a year on at £60m would be fair?

the market makes the price. A player's value is however much other clubs are willing to pay for him. You keep saying clubs would be willing to pay £60m for him next year. Fact of the matter is there is only one club willing to do that this year, and if lukaku has another season like the last, the chances of more clubs being interested in him at that price aren't going to be higher than now.

Also, nobody was interested in Icardi at £90m last year, when he was serie A's top scorer amd not a pariah at his own club, and this despite a clubs like real madrid, atletico madrid and chelsea looking for strikers and being interested in him.

Right now inter would be lucky to sell him for £40m

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Let me put facts to you.
Lukaku:-

International apps 81 goals 48
Premier League apps 252 goals 113 assists 42
That is not defect, that is a very good goal scoring record.

Be interesting to see who he’s actually scored against at international level?

If you like facts, and I’m certaintly repaatong myself:

. 1 goal in 23 appearances against the top 6 for Man Itd
. Zero goals against the PL top 10 last season.

The guy can’t score against a decent side - that’s really not very good for a supposedly decent striker is it?

So if you actually dig into his record, it’s very average.

 

[romufc]

the market makes the price. A player's value is however much other clubs are willing to pay for him. You keep saying clubs would be willing to pay £60m for him next year. Fact of the matter is there is only one club willing to do that this year, and if lukaku has another season like the last, the chances of more clubs being interested in him at that price aren't going to be higher than now.

Also, nobody was interested in Icardi at £90m last year, when he was serie A's top scorer amd not a pariah at his own club, and this despite a clubs like real madrid, atletico madrid and chelsea looking for strikers and being interested in him.

Right now inter would be lucky to sell him for £40m

I understand the market gives the value but the Inter case is if they had £75m they would pay it. They dont have the money.

They are trying to buy something they cannot afford. That doesn't mean that is what he is worth.

 

[romufc]

Be interesting to see who he’s actually scored against at international level?

If you like facts, and I’m certaintly repaatong myself:

. 1 goal in 23 appearances against the top 6 for Man Itd
. Zero goals against the PL top 10 last season.

The guy can’t score against a decent side - that’s really not very good for a supposedly decent striker is it?

So if you actually dig into his record, it’s very average.

You can repeat those stats but there is a correlation because last season we had the worst points against top 6.

He is a flat track bully, but still scores goals.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

You can repeat those stats but there is a correlation because last season we had the worst points against top 6.

He is a flat track bully, but still scores goals.

Indeed. You are proving my point. Perhaps if we had a striker who could score against the top sides, we would have more points!

He has been a guaranteed started for 18 months, and still started a decent no of game sunder OGS - yet still can’t score. That’s why he’s nowhere near good enough.

 

[romufc]

Indeed. You are proving my point. Perhaps if we had a striker who could score against the top sides, we would have more points!

He has been a guaranteed started for 18 months, and still started a decent no of game sunder OGS - yet still can’t score. That’s why he’s nowhere near good enough.

I agree with you that he is not good enough for United, I think he is useless for us. The way we want to play, quick interchange, is not his style.

I give you a good example. Morata - £50m to Athletico Madrid. his stats were worse than Lukaku, but there are teams around who need goal scorers, and Lukaku is one. All i want is the most we can get for him.

 

[giorno]

I understand the market gives the value but the Inter case is if they had £75m they would pay it. They dont have the money.

They are trying to buy something they cannot afford. That doesn't mean that is what he is worth.

First, inter *do* have the money, they just don't want to spend that much for him. Second, your argument is based on the assumption that Lukaku will have a good season. The counter-arguments are based on the assumption that he won't

 

[romufc]

First, inter *do* have the money, they just don't want to spend that much for him. Second, your argument is based on the assumption that Lukaku will have a good season. The counter-arguments are based on the assumption that he won't

Looks like you know more about Inter's finances. Because, the deal they are trying to do is £9m loan with mandatory buy in 2 years ?

So they value him less than £54m

 

[giorno]

Looks like you know more about Inter's finances. Because, the deal they are trying to do is £9m loan with mandatory buy in 2 years ?

So they value him less than £54m

Inter offered €70m(£63m). They also offered Roma €12m for Dzeko. They want both. Clearly, they're capable of spending €83m(£75m). They just don't want to spend it all on Lukaku. They would need to sell first

 

[roseguy64]

First, that's still a £10 loss of value compared to inter's offer. Second, there's a reason only inter are interested in him, mainly, his wages. Few clubs can pay those. Thirdly you have to factor in the player's own wishes, a club like newcastle might be willing to pay £55m for him, but would he be willing to go there...and fourth, if he barely features for you there's going to be even less interest in him from those clubs who could both afford his wages and offer him the kind of profile he wouldn't refuse, not unless you offer him very cheap.

Hence why it will be interesting to see what role he will play for Ole. A Lukaku that plays a fair number of games, scores at a good rate and is generally involved and a fairly important piece of the plan has a certain value. A lukaku who is a bit part player is quite another story. Frankly i find the latter highly unlikely unless Lukaku himself "downs tools" as you guys are fond of saying, but that'd be a whole other story as well, but you never know. We've seen clubs do dumber things plenty of times

If Lukaku stays and applies himself he'll get plenty of games.

 

[The Farmer]

Seen him many times have you? I've watched him almost weekly since he joined PSV and I just can't see him becoming a world beater. Anyway, he plays a lot more as a left winger, which we obviously don't need.

What? He's been almost exclusively on the right wing. You can argue he might be better on the left wing but he's been playing right wing last 1,5 seasons.