Luis Suárez

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But most importantly....Liverpool don't want to sell him, and I can't see him forcing it giving how much they took him back last year and continue to back him now. Thus it's in their court.
 
But most importantly....Liverpool don't want to sell him, and I can't see him forcing it giving how much they took him back last year and continue to back him now. Thus it's in their court.

He's been very disrespectful towards the english abroad wouldnt you say I think he resents his treatment....as crazy as that is
 
Suarez leaving Liverpool only makes last season's near miss even more painful for them. What a golden chance that was to finally win a PL title.

Now they could be losing the one world class, 30 plus goals a season player while Chelsea get stronger, City stay solid and we look to be getting a lot closer to what we were under Fergie.
 
Suarez leaving Liverpool only makes last season's near miss even more painful for them. What a golden chance that was to finally win a PL title.

Now they could be losing the one world class, 30 plus goals a season player while Chelsea get stronger, City stay solid and we look to be getting a lot closer to what we were under Fergie.

Stevie needs to read this :D
 
But most importantly....Liverpool don't want to sell him, and I can't see him forcing it giving how much they took him back last year and continue to back him now. Thus it's in their court.

Liverpool didn't want to sell him pre-bite either.

They're just in a much weaker position now.

Suarez probably has the same level of respect for Liverpool as a wife-beating husband does for his wife who keeps taking him back time and time again.
 
Liverpool didn't want to sell him pre-bite either.

They're just in a much weaker position now.

Suarez probably has the same level of respect for Liverpool as a wife-beating husband does for his wife who keeps taking him back time and time again.

Our position hasn't changed. We want to keep him then, we want to keep him now.
 
ideal is that he stays at Liverpool, and Barce or Madrid nab him in January
 
Suarez leaving Liverpool only makes last season's near miss even more painful for them. What a golden chance that was to finally win a PL title.

Now they could be losing the one world class, 30 plus goals a season player while Chelsea get stronger, City stay solid and we look to be getting a lot closer to what we were under Fergie.

Has he left? Send him my best wishes like.
 
ideal is that he stays at Liverpool, and Barce or Madrid nab him in January

I presume Liverpool would still include him in their CL squad even though he'd miss half the group stage, so he'd end up cup tied.

Many clubs won't sell in January either, unless they want to offload a player they aren't using like Mata.
 
Liverpool didn't want to sell him pre-bite either.

They're just in a much weaker position now.

Suarez probably has the same level of respect for Liverpool as a wife-beating husband does for his wife who keeps taking him back time and time again.

Nope, that's the exact same position.
 
I'm not asking for your help. Just telling you it's the same position, which it is.
 
We're not in a weaker position if we don't want to sell. If we were actively trying to sell him you would have a point.

If you don't want to sell you're also in a weaker position because he's going to be out of football for 4 months, and not getting any younger.

And if he agitates for a move, which seems likely, then you're in a much weaker position.

And that's when the other factors come into play.

Whatever way you look at it, you're in a much weaker position than pre-bite.
 
See, now you've moved the goalposts. Yes they are in a weaker position however you look at it(given the ban).....but we were clearly talking about their position as a SELLING club.

I hope he forces the move, and it just all falls through though. Be an epic return in October.
 
I think he'll be off.

Ideal circumstances for us to sell in if we can get the price we want. Miss two months from ban and will be hunted if he stays in the country. I try to look a year ahead from now if he stays and I am not sure whether it'd be as good as we'd hope.

Still, he is irreplaceable.
 
I think he'll be off.

Ideal circumstances for us to sell in if we can get the price we want. Miss two months from ban and will be hunted if he stays in the country.

Still, he is irreplaceable.

At this point so do I. I'll be sad to see him go too. Brilliant player.
 
I would absolutely hate it if Shanchez is involved in any deal that takes him to Liverpool.
 
At this point so do I. I'll be sad to see him go too. Brilliant player.

I think we could build a team that is better than last season's even without him, but I am sad to see a player leave who has a real shot of becoming our best ever if he were to stay 2-3 more years.
 
I would absolutely hate it if Shanchez is involved in any deal that takes him to Liverpool.

I wouldn't even consider anything less if I were calling the shots.
 
Don't see how they're in a weaker position, might have to knock a few million off their asking price but other than that I don't think they are. If they don't want to sell, they won't, much like us with Wayne last Summer. Unless Suarez goes public then I'd imagine they'll get a good £70m for him, providing they aren't including Sanchez in the deal, if that were the case then I'd imagine £40m + Sanchez.
 
I would have honestly thought Liverpool would have been in weaker posting after the bite, but it has only seemed to intensify barca and Real's interest in him. They are not put off at all (more so barca) going by what ballbag said on SSN earlier. Strange.
 
I wouldn't even consider anything less if I were calling the shots.

Definitely. Sanchez, Markovic, Sterling, Ibe, Sturridge and Lambert would be great options to have for three forward positions.

I was thinking the same. Sanchez, or no deal.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-prepared-keep-luis-7334362

Here's one of the articles I mentioned. I don't have a Times subscription so can't access the other one.
 
See, now you've moved the goalposts. Yes they are in a weaker position however you look at it(given the ban).....but we were clearly talking about their position as a SELLING club.

I hope he forces the move, and it just all falls through though. Be an epic return in October.

The very fact they're now in a position where his exit is very real, means they're in a weaker position.

Before they could just flat out say no, not selling. Now they have to seriously consider it.

Their hand has been forced by the event.
 
Barcelona in hot pursuit of Liverpool’s Luis Suárez

Tony Barrett

Published 1 minute ago

Luis Suárez appears to be heading inexorably towards an Anfield exit after Barcelona resolved to sign the controversial forward despite his four-month ban for biting Giorgio Chiellini, the Italy defender, in an incident that has overshadowed the World Cup.

The Barcelona hierarchy held talks in the aftermath of Suárez’s suspension to establish whether or not to continue their pursuit of him, and Luis Enrique, the club’s coach, is understood to have held sway with a passionate appraisal of the qualities that the 27-year-old would bring to the team.

According to reports in Spain, as well as extolling Suárez’s virtues as a player, those in favour of taking the Uruguay striker to the Nou Camp also offered a reminder that Barcelona retained the services of Hristo Stoichkov despite the Bulgarian receiving a two-month ban for stamping on the foot of Urizar Azpitarte, the referee, in 1990.

Liverpool are aware of the growing momentum behind Barcelona’s attempt to sign Suárez, and they are also conscious that the Uruguay striker has a long-held desire to move to Spain. Though Liverpool will not allow Suárez to leave willingly, there is a growing feeling within the club that it would make sense to allow him to depart should they receive an offer approaching the record £85 million fee that Real Madrid paid for Gareth Bale last year.

Barcelona are hoping the controversy surrounding Suárez will convince Liverpool that the time has come to dispense with his services, but Anfield sources maintain there is no prospect of him being allowed to depart in a cut-price deal as a result of his suspension.

While Barcelona believe that Suárez’s ineligibility to take part in any kind of football activities until late October means he should be made available at a discount, given that he would be banned for the first six games of the forthcoming La Liga campaign, Liverpool regard the suspension as irrelevant. There is also bemusement at the idea that Barcelona are seeking a lower fee given reports that Suárez has already agreed a five-year contract in principle with the Catalan club.

Liverpool demonstrated last season that they would not be bullied into selling Suárez when Arsenal made a £40,000,001 for his services and refused to buckle even when the former Ajax player attempted to force the move through. That strength of conviction has not been altered by Suárez’s latest indiscretion and Liverpool will consider allowing him to leave only if their valuation — one that aligns with a buyout clause in his contract — is met.

A growing possibility is that Barcelona will offer Alexis Sánchez in part exchange for Suárez, but although Liverpool have a strong interest in the Chile winger, they would entertain that idea only if there is also a cash adjustment in the region of £50 million in their favour.

That it has now reached the stage where the size of the expected offer will determine Suárez’s future illustrates that Liverpool now accept his departure would allow them to push on with a squad-rebuilding strategy, which looks set to continue with the signing of Adam Lallana from Southampton.

Having already acquired Rickie Lambert for £4 million from the same club, Liverpool brought weeks of negotiations for Lallana to a successful conclusion by agreeing a fee in the region of £25 million for the England player, who is expected to complete his move to Anfield in the next 48 hours.

With a £6 million move for Divock Origi, the Lille and Belgium forward, also close to completion and their interest in Lazar Markovic — the Benfica attacking midfield player who is understood to have a £20 million buyout clause — hardening in recent days, it is becoming increasingly clear that Liverpool are reshaping their forward line.

Suárez’s solicitor, Alejandro Balbi, was in Barcelona yesterday to hold talks with Pere Guardiola, the player’s agent, but claims that they were also meeting with representatives of Liverpool’s
legal department have been dismissed by officials at the Merseyside club.
 
Has he left? Send him my best wishes like.

The writings on the wall, don't you think?

Tbh both parties should look to move on now. He seems to dislike England so much while from your point of view, yes he's one of the best in the world but he's brought so much bad publicity to the Liverpool brand. If you get a chance of money plus Sanchez, you'd have done well. IMO.
 
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Leaving the cnutish behaviour aside, just imagine a strike force of Messi - Suarez - Neymar. Damn!
 
Would be gutting to see him leave. In purely footballing terms the man is an absolute joy to watch, probably the most talented player to ever wear the Liverpool shirt, and a genius. I doubt I'd see anyone of his talent again play for the club.

That being said, this recent incident is the point where in pure business terms it's difficult to justify keeping him if a good offer is on the table. One more moment of lunacy and he's gone for a whole season at least, it's no longer an acceptable risk. I could live with him missing the first ten-odd games of this season (I'd still bank on him comfortably finishing top scorer regardless) but the next one will be the one that really screws us. Begrudgingly, I think it's time he goes. If there's an offer of £40million+ and Sanchez, then a deal has to be done. We'd be getting a world-class replacement and money to sort out other areas, get a few defenders in and probably another attacker, Markovic would be a great choice, he's raw but he's got all the tools to be a brilliant player.

Replacing him won't be possible, and losing him would immediately relegate our goals to just maintaining Top 4 (which is what I would be aiming for if we keep him anyway) but I have confidence that Rodgers could do the job and keep us steady in his absence. It's difficult to ignore Spurs' farcical summer in this situation but I still think we're not quite as reliant on Suarez as they were on Bale. Bale was literally pulling winning goals out of nowhere to get them points they had no chance for otherwise, sans Suarez our squad is still a talented one.
 
I don't see Barcelona spending that kind of money for a player I don't think they even need. They never make transfers like this. I can't see them going over 40-50 million quid for him.
 
I don't see Barcelona spending that kind of money for a player I don't think they even need. They never make transfers like this. I can't see them going over 40-50 million quid for him.

Is this some sort of joke?

Zlatan? Neymar?
 
One thing's for sure. Suarez's valuation will be significantly less than what most people think, with his behaviour being a liability and all.
 
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