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Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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Mata is possibly the best player in the league in my eyes so I am not surprised he performs better than Nani in the same situation.
Nani has had one bad game of the ones he has started, which is something every player has had. The difference is that when he had a bad game the fans and managers turned their back on him. But Evra/Rooney/Buttner/RVP/Rooney/Welbeck/Valencia/Young has had awful games as well but were treated much better.
He has one of the highest ratings in our team if you exclude the games he has been a substitute. Higher than all other players who plays on the wing in our team. I just think it is unfair for us to judge him until he gets an honest chance.
This is the key thing.
At the start of the season Young and Valencia were playing poorly and still being picked every game. Even now, Valencia is playing at around 6 out of 10 standard yet his name seems bolted to the team sheet. Rain or shine Antonio Valencia plays despite having no standout showings this season. Whereas with Nani, if he doesn't have a standout performance you can guarantee he'll be back on the bench next game. If Valencia is allowed to play badly and stay in the side why is nobody else? Especially as Nani is more naturally gifted than any of our wingers.
When Rooney's game had gone to pot in the first few months of 2010/11 after handing in a transfer request and become a front page, rather than back page fixture who carried us through? Nani. For which his teammates gave him the player of the year award if you remember correctly. Nani may not have been Cristiano Ronaldo important but, as has been mentioned, in 2010/11 and 2011/12 for the most part he was vital to us winning games. Don't think I've ever seen anyone mess with Ashley Cole as Nani did when we beat Chelsea 3-1 in Autumn 2011:
Nani deserves a chance to prove he can get back to that. Especially as no other winger at United, besides maybe Januzaj, is making an obvious case for regular selection over and above him.
I want that Nani back
I want that Nani back
I don't even think that video is one of his best games. He's had some even better games. The one away at the emirates against Arsenal comes to mind.
Ramires swapping shirts says it all about his performance in that game, was it a Cup game? I can't remember.
Reminds of why I love him so much (as a father loves a son, you understand).
He was never quite right after Carragher assaulted him though, I see him sometimes pulling out of challenges he never used to pull out of, like he's frightened of getting hurt or something.
He was never quite right after Carragher assaulted him though, I see him sometimes pulling out of challenges he never used to pull out of, like he's frightened of getting hurt or something.
Premier League. The one where Torres rounded De Gea and missed the open goal (
).The 3-1 where he and Rooney engineered the 9.9 second counter attack goal and Nani did the chop past Clichy before dinking it over Arsenal's keeper? Yeah that was one helluva a performance:
Bingo. He was terrific that season but so was Berbatov, yet I don't see people disagreeing with the view that he was largely inconsistent in his time here.
He's certainly a consistent underachiever. I can't think of any player in recent years who has disappointed me so regularly. Even that one excellent season served to set me up for disappointment in every season since. He's very talented and will still show it in flashes but his career seems destined to be one of unfulfilled promise. Not a top player and certainly not one I'd want to be relying on if I was the manager.
I'm seriously starting to quesion Moyes' management these days. First he goes public to say that Nani needs to be given game time to give him confidence as he needs that. Then he benches him every other match. It makes no sense. Is it OK that I'm slightly mad at this? Young, ffs
He was inconsistant, then for 18 months he was consistant and now he's a bit inconsistant again.
Most of our players fail to be as consistant as he was at the level he was for those 18 months. Thats the important part. He's proven he can do it for a sustained period, so we just need him to get back there.
The circumstances last time were right wing for a long period of games where he was chosen over Valencia. I don't think we'll get it moving him left and right all the time like we usually do over a period of games, or by playing him left wing week after week. Just 5 or 6 games in a row on the right hand side given a vote of confidence and saying he's the man for the job, like Valencia always gets multiple times a season
Today would have been the perfect game as well because even if we lose we are in the knock out stages.
I aways feel as if others are more consistent with their inconsistency than Nani. By that I mean that every player has an off day or period but you rarely see the dramatic fluctuations as you do with Nani. He's literally brilliant one week and bloody awful the next. Sometimes not even within the space of a week. Sometimes a game. A half. feck, he sometimes does to the sublime to the ridiculous within a single passage of play.
Whilst I have sympathy with him not playing (given the winger situation) I do also have sympathy with this manager who much like the last one struggles to have confidence to play a player like that very often. If a player is playing 'okay' or below par you can kind of compensate for that tactically. You can't really do much about a player whose form is so erratic you don't know from one minutes end to the next if he'll play well or like he's used a fake ID to get into the team claiming to be George Weah's cousin. I think that's very difficult to plan for/around and may explain his absence more often than not.
Potent like a motherfecker.
"Already a dad". Does this mean he's just found out that one of his one night stands was pregnant.
Baby Tito.
Hee hee.
Hee hee.
He's been better Nani, but like you said none of them have been particularly good.
Only in as far as he's played twice as much. He's also used the opportunity to be a lot more frustrating than Nani, thanks to his brave attempt to break the world record for crosses which fail to got more than a yard before hitting a full-back in a season.
This is the crux of Nani v Valencia, but I draw the opposite conclusion. There's no point whatsoever in a player that you know guarantees mediocrity, whereas at least the other type offers the hope of producing something.
In the specific instance of Nani, the fact that when he was a first team regular he was very consistent means that it's a no-brainer for me. If his erratic nature is the problem, that can be solved simply by playing him all the time. Apart from anything else, half the stupid things he does look to me like trying too hard to impress, as he knows he doesn't get much opportunity to do so.
He's been given the weekend off to spend with his new baby so won't be travelling with the squad tomorrow. Mustn't have been starting then...
Aww that's nice for him. Must have been hard work being in and out, in and out. Shooting and missing all the time. Still, who said conception was easy?
Congrats to Nani! Was wondering why he wasn't in the team today, but i'm glad it's for this reason.
Hope we see him again very soon and playing well.
Hope we see him again very soon and playing well.
I probably wouldn't have played him anyway but the fact that in the middle of the injury crisis, in the middle of a string of bad results, with the manager under incredible pressure - to me saying to Nani "take the weekend off to spend it with the baby" probably just confirms (if any were needed) just how important he is to the team in the eyes of the manager.
I can understand permission being for the birth but it seems, given the circumstance, unnecessarily generous to give him the first weekend. Maybe he'll get text at 7am tomorrow morning "Nani, it's David Moyes. feck it, spend the first Christmas at home with your family. See you in the new year x (no homo) "
I can understand permission being for the birth but it seems, given the circumstance, unnecessarily generous to give him the first weekend. Maybe he'll get text at 7am tomorrow morning "Nani, it's David Moyes. feck it, spend the first Christmas at home with your family. See you in the new year x (no homo) "
I can't decide which one is worse poster in this thread, Plugsy or mungy.
It's a pretty common thing.
Didn't Rooney get time off when his baby was born, maybe he's shit too.
I remember the same for Bale in an important Tottenham fixture last season. No need for anyone to take issue with it.
This Plugsy is like a walking disaster. Whoever promoted him must have a similar hatred for Moyes. I would have guessed Raoul but he was pretty objective in his opinion of todays game.
fecking hell.
I'm sure if you ever have a kid and your boss said "things are tough round the office right now Plugsy, 'fraid we can't give you any time off to spend with your in need wife and new born child", you'd be totally understanding of that.
I don't promote posters, just ban them.
He's in a bit of a pinch at the moment. Basically, Valencia will play at right wing if he performs like he did vs Villa so Nani need to perform from the left.
Valencia will play on the right even if he never plays like he did against Villa again this season
Had high hopes for him before the beginning of the season, but he's been below par again and used sporadically. Can't see him staying much longer at United if he doesn't show some kind of form in the next couple of months.
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