He looked alright in the first half, defended well, played some nice passes. Wasn't near his best though. Moutinho played that pass for the 3rd.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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He was quiet, rarely saw the ball and rarely did anything good with it, but he was very disciplined defensively. He had few good moments, with one good ground cross from which Ronaldo should have probably scored.
Managed to get hold of footage from 10-11, so I decided to make this:
Second half of the season (10-11), playing on the left, against Schalke. So much energy and explosiveness. While he's been good this season (West Brom performance was immense), he's not shown the same explosive edge IMO.
Second half of the season (10-11), playing on the left, against Schalke. So much energy and explosiveness. While he's been good this season (West Brom performance was immense), he's not shown the same explosive edge IMO.
Funnily enough those two videos you've posted, about Nani and Anderson, even if in bits, show how bloody brilliant Scholes was.
Watching that video, I can't help thinking that damn, that Scholes fella was really good! He's involved in more or less everything Nani does. MoneyMay: that video you made of Anderson shows the same: Scholes was involved in everything...
I agree on your Nani assessment. He was so quick an agile. Seems to have lost some of that edge.
I agree on your Nani assessment. He was so quick an agile. Seems to have lost some of that edge.
Haha, I promise, I didn't see your post before I posted mine. Either great minds think alike or fools seldom differ
Haha, I promise, I didn't see your post before I posted mine. Either great minds think alike or fools seldom differ
Hive mind at it's finest
As for Nani, I might be wrong but I think that the point when he started dropping a bit was that period when he was injured, got back and got some injury by Carragher at Anfield again. It feels like his confidence to put a foot in evaporated then.
I also came here to post about Scholes
Hive mind at it's finest
As for Nani, I might be wrong but I think that the point when he started dropping a bit was that period when he was injured, got back and got some injury by Carragher at Anfield again. It feels like his confidence to put a foot in evaporated then.
I think you might be right. It doesn't explain why he looks reluctant to use his pace and dribbling skills though. He still shows that he can effortlessly just run past players like Arnautovic, but the next second he looks reluctant to do the same against Walters. As you say, it looks like a confidence thing.
Nani is one of those players where almost everybody has either a really negative or positive bias. Seems like people have a rather negative view of his start this year so I thought I'd look at the individual games and the rating in comparison to his offensive team-mates.
1st out of 4 Liverpool - Rated above van Persie and Ashley Young at the same rating as Welbeck.
3rd out of 6 Liverpool - Rated below Kagawa and Rooney but above Welbeck and Januzaj - same rating as Chica
2nd/5 Sunderland - Rated below Januzaj, above Rooney, van Persie, Welbeck and Valencia
2nd/6 Southhampton - Rated below van Persie, above Rooney, Januzaj, Welbeck and Giggs.
7th/7 Stoke
He has had one bad game and the others he was in average one of the 2 best out of our attacking players.
Average points with Nani in the team(only counting where he plays more than 45 mins) that is slightly higher than the team average this season.
1st out of 4 Liverpool - Rated above van Persie and Ashley Young at the same rating as Welbeck.
3rd out of 6 Liverpool - Rated below Kagawa and Rooney but above Welbeck and Januzaj - same rating as Chica
2nd/5 Sunderland - Rated below Januzaj, above Rooney, van Persie, Welbeck and Valencia
2nd/6 Southhampton - Rated below van Persie, above Rooney, Januzaj, Welbeck and Giggs.
7th/7 Stoke
He has had one bad game and the others he was in average one of the 2 best out of our attacking players.
Average points with Nani in the team(only counting where he plays more than 45 mins) that is slightly higher than the team average this season.
Is he on the bench today? Could use him because Januzaj needs to be pulled off if this continues.
Something is definitely not right with him, I don't know what because he plays regulary for his country, but if he is on the bench because of Valencia than something is really wrong in our team.
What was the point of him signing the extension if to be virtually invisible since then ?
He suffers from the defensive approach of the team
Maybe but he also suffers from being horribly inconsistent
I think he's been absent from the team for long enough. One bad game shouldn't mean he disappears for an extended period of time. He's been no worse than our best performing wide men this season and deserves another chance.
This. Wasn't suited to Arsenal game or today's game because Moyes wanted to defend after lead...
Give me incosistent Nani instead of Idon'tHaveAnyDesireToActuallyAttack-Valencia any day.
Thank feck your not manager
I am sick and tired of watching Valencia play. Give me an inconsistent Nani who'll at least try to attack.
It's a product of his playing style. High risk, high reward versus Valencia who's low risk, low reward. Usually the big teams can afford to play the latter, under Moyes we've preferred the former quite a lot.
Should be getting game time, but not happened since the stoke game. One bad game is all it takes for Nani to be frozen out
But is the only one called out on it. Valencia plays anyway and is just as frustrating and if he's more consistant, then its more consistantly shit for the past 18 months
How can anyone expect a player to be consistent when he sits out countless matches after a bad performance? You see comments like "he's so inconsistent" when he starts a game for the first time in months. It's ridiculous.
He was actually passing it to Hernandez, and it was an easy pass after all, should have been much better anyway eh
I was just pointing out a move he made that actually got us the lead, as well as the fact he does fecking attack. Stop making stupid points about players who actually do do their duty. I'm not going to argue Valencia's case here in Nani's thread, but he did make attacks in the box, and I'm sure you're basing him not attacking through one moment of him being static, waiting to make a move, aren't you?
Obviously he is attacking, he is our winger after all, I am not saying he is staying defensive, or something like that, but he isn't showing any creativity whatsoever, and he isn't showing any goal threat, or ambition to actually push the team to attack, at least on moments, like every player does now and then. I just read that Smalling had two more dribbles completed than Valencia had today, Smalling had two, and Valencia none. NONE. Player who is one of the fastest in the world couldn't complete one dribble in whole game against Cardiff?
The freezing out of Nani becomes more bizarre by the match. I could understand it were it not for the new contract... after all he does attacking and stuff, he's hardly a Moyes type of winger. But why did he give him the contract? Just to wind him up?
I'm so tired of watching Valencia. Please play Nani. Atleast he could do something exciting or beat a player
I don't think he's been frozen out, clearly he was dropped initially but since then I think it's been more tactical. Valencia impressed in his game before Arsenal and was decent in the game and then today I'm guess we decided to rest him having played some high intensity matches for Portugal. He could have come on and probably should when we needed to push for a second goal but moyes decided to go more defensive with giggs and welbeck. I reckon he'll start in the CL.
I suppose it's possible that Moyes is giving him a bit of time out of the firing line after being booed but tbh that wasn't the worst really, so you'd assume he'd be capable of getting past that pretty quickly. Otherwise it doesn't make massive sense to me. I presume he came back from the internationals without injury?
I'd calling it freezing out... we've had 5 matches since Stoke, and he's no played a minute - not even come off the bench.
Didn't realise it'd be so many. Yeah suppose that is a bit long and if he is being frozen out pretty harsh given at lease he managed to produce something even if it was a poor display. I think some of it though is linked to us not killing games and Moyes wanting to go with players he knows will defend well even if that is something that's unfairly put against Nani.
Nani is just a nightmare footballer...never tracks back and shoots constantly from 40 yards out when we are chasing a game with 10 minutes to go...fergie couldn't wait to get rid of him.....moyes has realized now what we all knew before he was offered a new deal
Hi David, how's the new job going?
He's a confidence player.
If I was his manager I'd give him a run of games and encourage him and feed his ego.
If I was his manager I'd give him a run of games and encourage him and feed his ego.
Yeah I've not really understood why we've tried to bring him in for a game and then take him out. He's not that sort of player, if you want someone who's gonna do something different and not just stay wide and cross it in then you've got to give them some time to get confidence and the sharpness. It would be the same with a creative midfielder who tries ambitous passes. They're gonna take a few games to get their accuracy. But then you see it with fans as well, if he tries something and it doesn't come off then he's criticized but you can't just expect someone to always produce when they're tying something hard. It's like that Giggs assist for RVP against West Ham last season or the one today when he put Rooney in, those only come about cause he had a go, another time they won't come off and we'll lose the ball, but you can't praise him for pulling it off and then criticize him for not.
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