Didn't think he was any worse than Kagawa really. Sure he had a few shots from range that weren't great but nobody complains when one flies in the net.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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Exactly. There was one that was never going in and another that was definitely dumb, but there were one or two more from positions he's more than capable of scoring from. Rooney always has a couple of over-optimistic long shots in a match and doesn't get buried for it.
It's mungy. He probably waits outside the players car park to boo Nani.
Lets get this straight Nani has no love for this club, so feck him.
It's all about Nani with Nani. Take the first half dive [because he lost the ball (again)] stays down holding his shin despite no sufficient contact, he gets stick to get up but nope he stays down instead of getting up and chasing back. He walks off the pitch when we are loosing and gets stick for it, did he rush? did he hell.
Never mind he can sleep well in the knowledge of a shinny new contract.
Was his worst game in a long time today, and that level was pretty much as low as it gets for him. Still, I'd like to see him given the next start again to see if he can turn it around, as I am still of the belief that him playing well is part-way towards getting the best out of the team.
Same here. In fact I read some of his posts in this thread. My head hurts.
Large sections of the crowd have always been morons when it comes to Nani. People will get on his back even if he's slowed things down for just a couple of seconds too long on the ball.
I love it when tag lines tell you all you need to know. Twat.
I do find it incredibly frustrating how he has so much pace and great ability on the ball, and takes it up to the defender slower, does a few step overs and more often than not just passes it to the side.
He's so much better than that, and I think he gets treated harsher because of it (his potential/ability).
He's so much better than that, and I think he gets treated harsher because of it (his potential/ability).
Great cross for the first goal, it was crucial at that point. Fairly good in his general play, but failed to take his defender on and use his pace.
Ok performance.
Ok performance.
Nani, a lot like Rooney, is one of those players who when he's hot he's piping hot but when he's not he's really not. Its literally amazing how much of a gap there is between Nani's top level and his bottom level. When he's on form Nani can tear teams apart but when he's not feeling it Nani can be frankly quite poor. Relatively speaking, Nani today was significantly better than say Young vs Man City, its certainly not the worst he's ever played for United. But because people can see quite clearly when Nani's off form, unlike lesser players, it probably sticks in their minds more and Nani ends up getting the sharp end of it more than most. No doubt he'll smash one from 25 yards soon, do a back flip and everyone will be all smiles with him again.
5 year contractkin hell you couldn't make it up.
As for the booing, I didn't but plenty around did and fair play to them. They pay good money to watch him regularly underachieve.
Dont need to make it up, the club felt he deserved a new 5 year contract because he's a very good player. As for the booing, you're an idiot
One thing with Nani is, even if he's having a day when nothing is coming off for him, he still tries to get us forward, still tries his hardest to break down defences and get the ball in the box. He always tries to make things happen, and goes for the "easy pass" as an absolute last resort. He has that sense of responsibility to continually try to create and doesn't hide on the pitch like some players might. He isn't passive, and he might be having a day where he is a bit unlucky with most of the things he tries but he won't just let the game pass him by. As people have pointed out it was his cross that led to the first goal, so he still contributed despite not having his best game. Disappointing hearing that our fans booed him when we all know that he plays worse when his confidence is low.
Old Trafford is 70,000 mungy's.
He's the most talented of our wingers but that isn't saying much right now.
Frustrating as hell to watch. How hard is it for an attacking footballer earning millions to hit the ball on target at least once in a while?
I am very critical of Nani but also spend a lot of time defending him. That sort of sums up his time at United.
People are looking at this situation the wrong way in my opinion. Forget his performance, forget the reaction to other players in the same situation. The main frustration coming from his doubters is his attitude. There is no doubting his ability, even on a bad day he is capable of something special. It's not what it's about though.
It is about acting like a man. He still goes down as easy, if not easier than Young. And I am not talking about diving to con the ref, I'm talking not wanting to battle for the ball, he is soft. I rate him so highly but I can admit, he is soft. When you have a bad game, fans accept it, players accept it, managers can accept it. When you do though, you have to fight and put your body on the line for your mates, Nani simply doesn't do that (I think he has improved in this regard but nothing close to what is expected of a professional footballer and one at Manchester United).
So it pisses fans off like you wouldn't believe. If any of us were out there and we were losing with United and our number went up, we would sprint off to make the sub as quick as possible. Not Nani, it was about him, took his time, strutting his stuff, the fans just wanted to get on with and I am in no way defending the booing, it was poor form. But in the heat of the moment, it's understandable. Even I was at home, tell Nani to hurry the feck up.
I don't have an agenda against Nani, I find myself defending him quite a bit but I am also very critical of him and it's never to do with his performance, it's always about him needing to harden the feck up and get on with it when it doesn't go his way.
People are looking at this situation the wrong way in my opinion. Forget his performance, forget the reaction to other players in the same situation. The main frustration coming from his doubters is his attitude. There is no doubting his ability, even on a bad day he is capable of something special. It's not what it's about though.
It is about acting like a man. He still goes down as easy, if not easier than Young. And I am not talking about diving to con the ref, I'm talking not wanting to battle for the ball, he is soft. I rate him so highly but I can admit, he is soft. When you have a bad game, fans accept it, players accept it, managers can accept it. When you do though, you have to fight and put your body on the line for your mates, Nani simply doesn't do that (I think he has improved in this regard but nothing close to what is expected of a professional footballer and one at Manchester United).
So it pisses fans off like you wouldn't believe. If any of us were out there and we were losing with United and our number went up, we would sprint off to make the sub as quick as possible. Not Nani, it was about him, took his time, strutting his stuff, the fans just wanted to get on with and I am in no way defending the booing, it was poor form. But in the heat of the moment, it's understandable. Even I was at home, tell Nani to hurry the feck up.
I don't have an agenda against Nani, I find myself defending him quite a bit but I am also very critical of him and it's never to do with his performance, it's always about him needing to harden the feck up and get on with it when it doesn't go his way.
He goes past defenders with ease but doesn't take advantage of the following situation enough (doesn't help that the rest of the team isn't at it's best either). Still think he will important for us this year.
His first poor performance of the season, probably not even worst on the pitch from our players today, and yet he gets booed, must feel sorry for the lad.
And apart from awfull shots, his performance wasn't poor at all, if anything, he was player who actually pushed us forward in first half.
And apart from awfull shots, his performance wasn't poor at all, if anything, he was player who actually pushed us forward in first half.
Again, that isn't what pissed people off.
Januzaj could challenge him for that mantle (though Nani is obviously the more complete footballer at present)
Anyway, he was crap today... (still made a goal for us mind) I imagine he'll be good Nani again in a week or so.
Typical Nani, shit all game and still made the first goal. Needs to hit good form soon. Very frustrating player as he has all the talent to become one of the best in his position.
Or least worse. I'd say Januzaj has been better. I just hope Moyes does not drop him away to Fulham next week . Nani needs to have that extended run of games to get back to the form of 2 or 3 seasons ago.
Disgraceful booing aside, it was a pathetic performance. Played just one good cross, didn't help out with his defensive duties, was shooting from retarded positions and kept giving the ball away in the first half.
He has been getting regular starts from the past few weeks or so, it was disappointing to see him perform like that.
He has been getting regular starts from the past few weeks or so, it was disappointing to see him perform like that.
I didn't think he played that badly. But then every club has its own set of fans whom are stupid enough to boo their own players. Arsenal fans booed Eboue off the pitch and was sold not long after
I'm a Nani fan, but that wasn't a good performance. He started well enough with some good runs where he used his pace to be direct and just run past players like Arnautovic, who isn't exactly sluggish. Then he started making some sloppy passes and lost the ball unnecessarily. He should have had a blatant free kick though in one instance. The problem for both Nani and Valencia when playing with Smalling and Jones is that they are not fullbacks and offer just about fu** all in attack.
Aye. It is a problem for any winger especially with the kind of setup that we have that places a premium on crosses from the flanks.
Nani's case wasn't helped by the forward line's poor movement upfront which made it difficult to pick out a pass let alone find someone who hadn't been snared up in the middle of the park where Rooney, Kagawa and RVP seemed to be in an eternal competition to stand toe-to-toe with Stoke's defensive midfielders than stretching out their defence. This has somewhat been a feature of our forward play this season as we have mostly lined up with both RVP and Rooney upfront. IMO, we ought to be playing with just one striker with the freed slot in the team sheet going to a third midfielder.
Our team relies on width and there were few options on the left hand side to spread the play. Consequently a large part of our play ended being conducted down the middle which was more congested than the M25 and the right flank which sadly lacked the auxiliary support of a traditional full back.
That said, it is unfair to deflect Nani's failure to make some basic common sense decisions on others. Nonetheless, it is exactly this style of play that makes him the unique player that he is, and a damn fine one too. I just hope that Moyes has a little bit more sense and understanding of football than the spectators that booed him or the endless mass of idiots who have felt necessary to opine on the need to freeze him out.
I can understand the frustration in relation to Nani but I reckon it has more to do with unjust expectations and a risk averse attitude ingrained in English football. Deep down most of us have probably wished he would turn into the next Ronaldo, but I for one am happy that he hasn't for he would have probably left for a better side than in pursuit of his "boyhood dreams". This sort of footballing mentality leaves a lot to be desired sometimes, the angst we give flair and creative players like Nani or Giggs for a significant part of his career is nothing short of astonishing.
I hope the gaffer puts an arm around him and doesn't freeze him out. Nani is a confidence player and an overt display of faith from Moyes would do his future performances wonders.
Does he still play for us?
ffs, seeing him sitting on the bench & Young coming on last night. I'd rather have Nani trying something a bit mad & failing, but at least trying something, than Young's diving clueless antics.
ffs, seeing him sitting on the bench & Young coming on last night. I'd rather have Nani trying something a bit mad & failing, but at least trying something, than Young's diving clueless antics.
Probably keeping him fit for Arsenal. Can see him starting on the left.
You think Moyes will start him against Arsenal at OT after the slating he was given in the last game? Not likely.
I thought last night was the perfect chance to at least give him a run out, i.e. away from our home fans against a shaky opposition, but Moyes decides to give Ashley Young a go instead, obviously.
Valencia will play vs Arsenal.
On the back of their respective performances this season not sure I disagree with that.
Nani's gotten plenty of chances but I haven't seen him put in the sort of performance you'd expect after Moyes clearly demonstrating his trust in him by awarding him a 5-year deal.
On the back of their respective performances this season not sure I disagree with that.
Nani's gotten plenty of chances but I haven't seen him put in the sort of performance you'd expect after Moyes clearly demonstrating his trust in him by awarding him a 5-year deal.
I thought he only had the one poor game (Sunderland?) and even then he made a goal. We have looked more threatening with him on the pitch.
He was poor vs Stoke to be fair. Very poor.
And largely flattering to deceive in other matches.
He was playing fine before the Stoke game. He's been out the team for 3 full games now and I reckon Valencia and Januzaj will start at the weekend, or maybe Kagawa will play over Januzaj. Nani wont start, no chance.
He had 1 bad game Cina, he was decent in many games before that. Ashley Young was dogshit in many games before this season, but he has been worked back into the team.
I do not think Moyes is stupid enough to disregard a player after 1 poor performance.
Nani has a history of doing quite well against Arsenal, and I think this may be 1 bridge too far to start Januzaj straight away. He will make more of an impact as a sub when everybody tires out IMO.
yes I know it was one bad game, it's more so to do with the fact that he got a terrible reception from the fans there and I'm not sure it'd go down well if Moyes put him out for this game, but maybe Moyes doesn't care.
I think if a manager starts listening to a crowd of fans to pick his team, he should not be in charge.
It was a shame for Nani that happened, but fans are fickle. If he starts putting in some good crosses, and beating his fullback they will be chanting his name again.
Dave shouldn't give a shit. If he thinks Nani starting will win us the game then he should start him.
he shouldn't, but he might, let's see.
Valencia was pretty poor last night so it'd make sense.
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