Someone mentioned he looked knackered as hes played almost every match over christmas. Perhaps just needs a rest?
Luis Nani | 2011/12 Performances
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Yep, I've never bought into the better on the right theory. Imo he's better rotated left and right, he seems to get stale when played on one side for too long.
I think we should take into account the defensive strength of the opposition flanks when deciding which wing to play him on, Santon and Gutierrez are both good defensively and doubled up on him well last night.
Why was he stationed behind the two strikers all of second half?
Yes, but not after every good/poor game which fits in with your argument, which is what it's felt like you've been doing lately. Especially when it's not actually true, such as the Blackburn match where he was probably our best player when on the right and turned crap when he went to the left.
When he puts in a good run of games on the left, then by all means point it out. I do, as a sign he's hopefully as consistent on either side now.
And yes, I've always disagreed with the 'he has to be played on the right' that some people have said. However, I was one of the first to point out he was more consistent on the right, something which I feel was definitely true in his earlier seasons. These days, not so much.
Misery loves company.
Hearing that MUTV just showed each and every one of his goals for us in a compilation. Anybody know of a link to this, think it would be fantastic.
He's been brilliant so far but could do with a break - in the last few games he seemed a bit tired
I thought he had a good game against City. Lovely bit of skill to set Evra free when Welbeck scored. Bit unlucky to get the hook IMO.
May seem a little unfair but the thread title to me seems a sad indictment on the quality of wingers in this country. Because Nani is decent but he really shouldnt be the best winger in the country. He is capable of extraordinary levels of numptiness.
The most annoying thing about fans is that they are not able to give credit where it's due. Nani has improved all aspects of his game, especially his work-rate in defense. Even if he is having a poor game when going forward he still protects his full back very well. I mean i have nothing but admiration for his work when we need to defend. Now, Nani can be frustrating - his decision making is poor at times, he can be selfish - but seriously his ball-retention, work rate and willingness to take the responsibly when the chips are down along with that stroke of genius he is capable of gives him 6/10 in my book every time. When he is on fire he gets 8/10.
Talk about thoroughly under-rating one of our own. Nani's among the best wingers in the world right now.
I just assumed that was Fergie just giving him a bit of a rest, like Mancini with Silva.
Simon Adebesi;110112d22 said:
To be fair, that's rubbish.
It was the right decision IMO, he was on a yellow.
Decent? Come on Simon, he's an awful lot better than decent. He can beat a man virtually at will from a standing start, and even two men have little chance of actually dispossessing him.
It was cos he was on a card and kept fouling or almost fouling people.
Agree with all of that.
6/10 every time, and 8/10 "when on fire".
Does that sound like you are describing the best winger in the country? it doesnt to me.
For someone who's poor with decision making he gets an awful lot of assists.
i think that part of the reason for fans' frustration is actually the level of expectations for Nani. When on fire- he's the best winger in this country, one of the best in world. The fans know how could he can be so when he has a day off his performance looks twice as bad as it actually is. But I will repeat myself- even is is playing poorly by his standards he still is a strong link in our team.
That's how I'd describe this post actually. Go figure...
His decision making is a myth nowadays and has improved enormously. The reason he shoots so much is because his long shots are excellent and Sir Alex gives him freedom to do so. We don't have many players nowadays who are capable of scoring outside the box, and he's the best at it.
Listen, I can see I am in a minority here but I stand by my opinion. Is Nani the best winger in the country? Arguably. Is he a good player? Yes, he is a very good player. But he is extremely frustrating, he dribbles when he should pass, he shoots when other people are in a far better position than he is... he makes the wrong decision - for me - too often.
Looking at other players who have had a claim to be the best winger in the country at one time or other, I think Nani falls short. Kanchelskis. Beckham. Overmars. Pires. Giggs. Ronaldo.
Looking at other players who have had a claim to be the best winger in the country at one time or other, I think Nani falls short. Kanchelskis. Beckham. Overmars. Pires. Giggs. Ronaldo.
Taking Nani's name in vain is a mortal sin on the caf. Be warned.
You're not far wrong in your assessment but he's still a work in progress. Ronaldo aside, all the players you mentioned didn't hit their consistent best until they were at least a year or two older than Nani.
If/when he reaches that level of consistency they reached at their peak - which tends to happen in the late 20s - I think he'll have every right to be talked about as on a par with all of them and better than at least some of them (e.g. Beckham, Overmars)
Come on, that's seriously underrating his ability and consistency.
You get grief for it because you're to biased against him. Don't pass it on as someone else's problem. Nani is not one of the caf/united fan favourites at all to get such treatment.
Sad state of affairs for the Premiership if that only makes him "decent".
You're changing your opinion constantly, first you say he's decent, then you say he's better than decent, now you're saying he's very good. Which is it?
So if I don't rate him as highly as you, that is bias?
I'm fairly sure he was referring to Pogue there.
Either way, his response is valid.
Pathetic the way people cry "bias/biased" (usually using the incorrect version, although not this time) because people dare to have a different opinion to them about a player.
Why the feck would anyone be biased against a Manchester United player anyway? The whole concept is absurd. Is Nani meant to have screwed someone's sister or something? Maybe it's because he's negrito?
Oh, right.
Not at all. That was aimed at Pogue. Although to suggest he is just decent is in my mind very baffling. If he's decent, then what are our lesser players? Rubbish? Crap? Then what does that make footballers playing in the premier league who aren't as good as even those united players.
And in response to this bit of the post, no he's not. But he does have a very vocal fan-club who jump all over anyone that offers the merest hint of a criticism. As SA found out.
That's daft. Are you saying united fans don't have their preferences with regards to their own players? That their opinions about united players are completely free from bias? There are chaps who never give Carrick credit for anything. Are they not biased against him for refusing to acknowledge anything good he does?
Nope. Thing with nani isnt that he has a vocal fan club. It's that he's genuinely become a terrific footballer but doesn't seem to get his due for it. So when on a united forum you see the same old posts about his lack consistency and decision making, it gets an amplified reaction, and naturally so.
Besides, how would the reaction be if someone claimed vidic, Rooney or silva were 'decent'?
If I am accused of this, I plead not guilty.
And I am happy to revoke my use of the word decent. Damning with faint praise. Yes, he is better than decent.
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