His continuing productivity is really impressive. You can really see the fear in defenders' eyes when he runs at them. He's like one of those annoying cnuts at school who used to skin you repeatedly and only stopped when you took them down with some kind of hideous leg breaker.
Luis Nani | 2010/11 Performances
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He's a flair player, it's to be expected that he's going to have more attempts than most people and that not all of them will come off. Ronaldo and Messi are both greedy feckers and can be frustrating when things are happening for them but you don't moan at it because you know what they are capable of.
He makes the right decision more often than not, and I don't think he's anything to worry about.
He makes the right decision more often than not, and I don't think he's anything to worry about.
i've no problem with him (other than the occassional dumb dive). if he shoots a lot...so be it. great player (and i thought i'd never say that a few years ago. figured he and anderson would flounder about a few years and then be gone. still waiting for anderson to break out).
Yeah me too, but i think (for me anyway) a lot of that frustration comes from me expecting him to make the correct decisions 100% of the time. At the end of the day hes only human and will make wrong decisions but on the whole he always looks a threat and does tend to make more right decisions than wrong, so what more can really be asked of him?
Hell even Ronaldo/Messi make mistakes and if they are prone to it i really shouldnt expect Nani to be perfect
20 goals/assists in 22 PL games this season. Ridiculous.
Thats going by the ESPN statistics.
If we go by the Redcafe Stats thread its 23 goals/assists.
Thats going by the ESPN statistics.
If we go by the Redcafe Stats thread its 23 goals/assists.
The fact he takes chances and consequently loses the ball a fair bit with wrong choices, is the reason he scores and creates so many goals compared to his peers.
You have players like Nasri who will give the ball away less, because he doesnt try to force it and make something happen out of nothing with a cross or pass. And he might only give the ball away when he shoots wide (which happens a lot). Whereas Nani gives the ball away plenty of times, but just about every week finishes the match with a goal or assist. I'd rather have a player like Nani on the wing no question about it
You have players like Nasri who will give the ball away less, because he doesnt try to force it and make something happen out of nothing with a cross or pass. And he might only give the ball away when he shoots wide (which happens a lot). Whereas Nani gives the ball away plenty of times, but just about every week finishes the match with a goal or assist. I'd rather have a player like Nani on the wing no question about it
Fair post. It is unfuriating at times, but it's also the reason he's so effective.
Nani isn't nearly as good as Ronaldo.
Nah, I wouldn't say that. It can actually be pretty annoying...
lol, it is quite amazing. Obviously he's not as good as Ronaldo, but the way his progression season-on-season has mirrored Ronaldo's is incredible.
Very promising first season. Somewhat disappointing for the next 18 months, but starts really turning it on for the second half of their third season. Carries that form into his fourth season and is arguably the best player in the premiership (well, it wasn't arguable in Ronaldo's case).
You're taking issue with my (apparently incorrect) level of annoyance about Nani pissing the ball away?
The thing is, today was somewhat of an off day for Nani with a bit of bad decision making. Yet he got one assist, hit the post with a great shot, could easily have scored two others, and put in two fantastic crosses that could easily have led to goals.
There's not many who can be so influential even on an off day.
There's not many who can be so influential even on an off day.
I think he was joking at the misspelling.
Basically, he's calling you an illiterate spastic.
Ooh, sorry I didn't go to an 'official, indoor' school like you lot.
Nope, I was making a joke out of your rubbish spelling. The implication was that unfuriating presumably meant not-infuriating. Ergo I thought it would be witty to point out that, despite what you say, it can actually be pretty infuriating at times.
Implication fail.
I agree 100% post.
As I said before, Nani doesn't annoy me anymore even if he can be selfish at times (just like it was the same with Ronaldo).
He's been outstanding, on a bad day (nothing it was the case in this match) he can still provide the goods.Not many players have that ability
Yeah, this is what I was basically trying to say. Next time I decide to put down Brophs, I'm going to think long and hard about what I'm going to say.
And then get Top to do it.
On current form, they offer a similar all-round contribution to a football match.
Not saying Nani is as good as or better, obviously, but there certainly isn't a gulf between the two players. Nani is a better dribbler, equally deadly outside the box, has a wonderful cross on him and, amazingly, puts in a good defensive shift.
He's absolute gold. Fabulous player - the best player in the Premiership. The only reason we're not going absolutely mental about him is because of what preceeded this season.
Was thinking this after the first couple of months of the season. It's uncanny.
Ronaldo went on a fantastic run of form from about mid-January onwards (after an extremely poor bout of form prior to that) in 2006, right up to the world cup, then stepped it up another level when the new season started. Nani has done pretty much exactly the same thing.
I'd say that Ronaldo's season in 2006/07 was better than Nani's this year (so far), though. That wasn't even realistic how good he was.
his last two games have been a bit frustrating , still flashes of brilliance mind you
Thought Nani had a very good game today.
I'd encourage him to shoot even more; he could quite easily make the step to a 25 goal a season player next year - if given the opportunity to take shots on.
Goals breed confidence, if he's to progress into a truly world class player he needs to keep hitting the back of the net.
As you were Nani.
I'd encourage him to shoot even more; he could quite easily make the step to a 25 goal a season player next year - if given the opportunity to take shots on.
Goals breed confidence, if he's to progress into a truly world class player he needs to keep hitting the back of the net.
As you were Nani.
I'm not sure Nani should be shooting MORE - not before he learns how to pick his shots better, anyway. It's quite frustrating for his team mates and at the end of the day, it's a team game and it can't be brilliant for team morale when they see him take wild shots or not pass when he should game after game. He already takes enough pot shots at goal from distance, and while I wouldn't say he should stop - you don't earn the glory if you don't even try - learning to locate and pass the ball to a player in a better position will be beneficial to us.
He's still on a learning curve, but he's coming on magnificently. Tremendous winger. While of course I'll be happy to see him score more, I really don't know if I want him to go down the Ronaldo route, which saw him more and more as a central player rather than a real providing winger. The Ronaldo most of us like the most is the one of 06/07, as much as we liked the goalscorer he later became. I'm happy with the all-around Nani. We've got quality strikers, they also need the service of quality wingers.
He's still on a learning curve, but he's coming on magnificently. Tremendous winger. While of course I'll be happy to see him score more, I really don't know if I want him to go down the Ronaldo route, which saw him more and more as a central player rather than a real providing winger. The Ronaldo most of us like the most is the one of 06/07, as much as we liked the goalscorer he later became. I'm happy with the all-around Nani. We've got quality strikers, they also need the service of quality wingers.
I don't agree with that statement. I'm not saying that Nani doesn't possess terrific talent with the ball, but to say that he's better than Ronaldo, I don't see it.
In open play I agree that Nani is prone to moments of sheer liquid wonderment, and has a wondergoal or two under his belt, but include free kick ability and factor in that Ronaldo is just as or more deadly from range, then same as the first point.
Agree with you here, especially in the defensive department.
Best player in the league? That's a bold bold statement my friend, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say not true. You could even argue that he isn't even the best player in our squad, but to say that he's the best in league, that's a little OTT to be honest.
There might be a little residual frustration left over from his first couple of seasons here, but, he still is prone to displays like today where his better judgment takes a back seat to kick the ball hard, and that's still uncomfortable for some of us to watch. All that said, I have confidence that the boy is in the best environment and at the best club to sort out all of his frustrating qualities, and here's to the lad surpassing the ghost of Ronaldo, and doing so and staying here.
And let's hope there's no dreams of Spain or any nonsense of that sort!
He's certainly a better dribbler than Ronaldo now. He beats his man with more success and regularity, and has more ways of doing it. As you admit, Nani and Ronaldo are similarly dangerous outside of the box.
I should've added 'on form', which I believe he is. He's our best attacking player at the moment, no doubt, we're top of the league, and he's centre to the vast majority of our positive attacking play. The statistics are obscene.
You do have a point, though. Vidic's case could just as easily be argued.
Thought he was very good today. Again, if we're going to use the Ronaldo comparison, that was as good as the vast majority of his displays in Ronaldo's last two seasons.
feck, I can't bear to think of them taking Nani off us and all. After all the effort we've put into him...
The best player at United tends to be the best player in the league of late. This year you can have no arguments.
When he learns to pick he shots better the way Ronado did after 2007, he will score loads. I just hope he never becomes obsessed with goals the way Ronaldo did.
I thought he put in a very mature performance last night. In the past Rooney has always got frustrated with Nani and bollocked him, but Nani on the left just seemed to have absolutely brilliant link up play with Rooney last night and they cut open Chelsea a couple of times. His shot which Terry handled probably should've been a penalty as well.
The stats show that he had the most successful dribbles and was a potent threat but in games of this magnitude making the right decision when there are few and far between opportunities is crucial.I saw one attack when he should have passed instead of shooting and thought"our opportunity's gone" but on the other hand when he released Rooney at 1-1, Rooney could have done a whole lot better, and as you say we could have had a penalty
I thought he struggled a little last night, Chelsea just doubled up on him whenever he got on the ball. Clearly recognized as our biggest attacking threat.
They also got Ivanovic to kick him whenever he got close and the ref didn't seem to have eyes when it happened.
He did very well last night again, a top class player.
We you have shortages in midfielders going forward this is what happens
Very good performance. The link up-play with Evra was top class at times. Confirms my belief that the new and improved Nani can be effective on either flank. Can't wait to see Valencia and him back on our wings again.
When we comprehensively beat Chelsea( I know it was only a glorified friendly) it was noticeable how Valencia's pace troubled them.Being different wingers presents defenders with different problems.Valencia being more direct would have had it's advantages last night...but can we hope to see him in the return or is it too soon?
I thought it was interesting that for the first time the commentators were talking about Nani being up there amongst the best player in the premiership this season. Normally it's always about his inconsistency and him being frustrating, but for once they gave him the credit he deserves and said he was competing with the likes of Vidic and Nasri.
I've just come into this thread to say exactly the same. Was very noticeable from them wasn't it.
Perhaps they've been on the annual Sky Sports course for football commentators where they've been given some insightful handouts on current player performances.
Perhaps they've been on the annual Sky Sports course for football commentators where they've been given some insightful handouts on current player performances.
True, actually I was pretty impressed with his lack of selfishness last night, he showed more selflessness last night than he has on the right all season.
It says a lot too that the Chelski defense were doubling up on him more so than Rooney last night.
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