We're not gonna get a first team standard midfielder at this point in time. Also, we are guaranteed to be losing quite a few midfielders soon, so we need first teamers and quality backups.
Luckhurst: United prepared to move for a holding midfielder in January
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We're not gonna get a first team standard midfielder at this point in time. Also, we are guaranteed to be losing quite a few midfielders soon, so we need first teamers and quality backups.
He's young, so the idea would be he has the potential to turn into that. He'd probably be a clear starting 11 player pretty quickly given the lack of quality we have there right now.
Traditionally in the past we've done just that in January.
Saha, Vidic, Evra, Mata, Bruno.
If the scouting is good and the economics are good, then there's every chance of a prudent first-team standard player, and, as Ralf has already said, he's only looking to bring in quality that improves what we already have.
McTominay doesnt set a high bar for someone to come straight in.
if a new DM is brought in, then Matic has to be let go.
we have players who don't even serve a squad role like Mata & Jones, they should be let go, the sooner the better.
Pogba might be leaving in the summer, as well as Lingard, so for the remainder of this season, they can serve as cover for Bruno & Sancho in the #10 role in RR's 4222.
This leaves VdB, not sure how RR sees him, but it might be good for him to go on loan to get game time.
we have players who don't even serve a squad role like Mata & Jones, they should be let go, the sooner the better.
Pogba might be leaving in the summer, as well as Lingard, so for the remainder of this season, they can serve as cover for Bruno & Sancho in the #10 role in RR's 4222.
This leaves VdB, not sure how RR sees him, but it might be good for him to go on loan to get game time.
Should be looking at the Bellingham, Tchouameni and Ndidi bracket of midfielders, all 3 would better our midfield significantly.
Yeah but they'd all be summer signings and they'd cost a fortune. It's about time we moved away from targeting star players at English clubs too, they just cost too much for the quality they give in return.
I'm in the mindset now that if it means we get the right player in summer but leaves us short until the end of the season, then so be it. It's a gamble for the short term not buying anyone, but buying a player like Haidara isn't the correct signing, not only is he going off to AFCON but he's also not good enough.
The only way I see us signing Haidara is because he's a short term solution as he's a player that knows Rangnick system and will execute the game plan properly, it's a player he knows will perform.
We need someone ready to step into our starting 11 directly in this time.
Not many negatives with this guy, quite raw though. Decent shot on him but does tend to lose focus and he’s always trying flashy stuff. Can be a bit of a loose canon at times. Hopefully it all clicks with him soon but it would be great to see him develop somewhere else before he comes here.
Watched Boubakar at Marseille a few times, he never stood out. If on a free then worth a punt but id rather we use the money to buy a player that can be a mainstay in the team, Declan Rice is the player we need, he is improving each year and is one of the major driving forces behind West Ham's improvement under Moyes.
Bissouma please
Question is, who is available in winter, and who are we going to buy?
We really don't have enough midfielders to think about letting someone go.
Matic/new CDM
Fred/van de Beek
+ McTominay to fill the gap here and there
Pogba is gone.
I expect that anyone is available for the right price.
In terms of who are we actually going to buy - either someone nearing the end of the contract or with a reasonable release clause.
It feels like everyone has gone off him since the sexual allegations
Ah I missed that. Well yes, I can't see the club going there unless he is emphatically cleared of any wrongdoing.
Can someone please tell me which Kamara is this ?
Chris
I dunno Jeff
Google what he's up to
Instant.
Unbelievable
The best signing we can make which will improve the team instantly is Kalvin Philips
He seems to have played every game since November. I think it’s more the fact Brighton can’t buy a win at the moment and Bissouma hasn’t been particularly impressive since. The horde have moved on to their next target.
I'm expecting a high energy unknown midfielder, let Rangnick do his magic and unearth some gems.
Oh the old, let's tell the football world which player we must sign at any cost so they can raise their starting price before we even start bidding for them. Next; sign Declan Rice for 100m.
United in a nutshell.
United in a nutshell.
Still dont think we need to buy a DM. When the whole team learns to press and close down angles, you dont need a ngolo kante or an out and out DM. Bring back someone like Dylan levitt and ditch Mctominay. If we must buy, we dont need someone expensive. Frank kessie or bissouma will work perfectly. Actually united should learn to sign players on a free when their contracts run down
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What made you think Bellingham would join when he got offers from clubbs like Pool, Chelsea. I know they are not better than us but if you look at from player p[erspective they pick those clubs ahead of us for now
I hate to say this but we are bit behind over last 9 years so better we go after realistic targets and become a better team.
I like R|alf's attitude of signing players who are keen to play for us...so I am sure we bring in some energetic youung players who are dying to play for a club like UTD and from there he will build on
I dont think McTom would take much to oust.
Happy to see "unlock pogba" phrase missing from this thread.
When was the last time a player chose another club ahead of us?
Sancho was rumoured to have admirers at Liverpool, Lukaku when we signed him had interest from Chelsea, City wanted Maguire, clubs wanted Pogba. Just this summer Ronaldo chose us over City.
If the footballing project is in line with what the player is thinking and wanting to achieve, he'll move to United.
And where exactly he would play ? Hendo and Fab is pretty much a lock in , when fit. They also have Thiago and their own youth products to come in. He isn't coming for less than 100m and I don't think Liverpool will spend that much for a player they don't need.
If we have CL and if we are making progress under a good coach, he will pick us. In 2023.
Pogba if he goes won't do that in January. He'll make a decision months from now.
I'm not sure about knowing everything about them mate, but both players have been around for several years now, and are at the right age and correct profile to come into the team and potentially improve us, without costing a lot.I only just learned about them through the caf - I have no knowledge from watching them. I’ve seen couple of tactical videos and I’d say that Haidara would suits Rangnick’s style of play. That other player Kamara seems to have good potential.
I mean, I’m sure @Adnan could tell you everything there is to know about them, if he wants, eh Adnan?
Haidara is a high energy midfielder who is decent on the ball and very good without the ball, where he's utilised to enforce pressure, be it in a wide pressing trap or vertically pressing the opposing midfielder, which he's very good at. So he does fit into the 'heavy metal' football approach that Rangnick wants to implement. But if Rangnick is only here until the end of the season, then i'm not sure signing Haidara would be the best idea, because someone like ten Hag (assuming it's him) seems to prefer his second #6 in midfield to play with a little bit more craft and guile, without sacrificing too much intensity out of possession. So it'll be interesting to see how things develop in the coming weeks/months in that regard.
Kamara I feel can be utilised by both Rangnick and ten Hag as the primary #6. He's been around for several years now and started of as a CB, before being utilised as the most defensive minded midfielder, which is a role that has now become his default role in the Marseille team. He's also playing under a very good coach (Jorge Sampaoli) who is very demanding, and who also coaches/teaches a play style in a variety of different structures, which helps young players like Kamara improve upon the tactical facets of the game, both in and out of possession. He's only recently turned 22, and has experience of playing as the lone DM flanked by two #8s, or being the more defensive minded midfielder in a two man midfield under a coach who expects his team to press high and play with high intensity. On a free transfer in the summer or a potential low fee in January, he'd be a good acquisition, who would be low risk, high reward type of potential.
It's about creating a well oiled machine with a clear blue print in mind. And if the future is Erik ten Hag, then a potential double swoop for Kamara and Frenkie de Jong for a combined £60m? in transfer fees would be interesting to create that dynamic imo, and it would likely leave us with money to spare to further improve the team/squad.
I don't buy the logic that since McTominay is so shit, whoever we buy doesn't have to be that good.
With Kamara, I note that he was made available this summer for not a lot of money, and there were no takers (but interest from pre-Saudi Newcastle, among others). Which makes me a bit sceptical. But hey, I could be wrong.
With Kamara, I note that he was made available this summer for not a lot of money, and there were no takers (but interest from pre-Saudi Newcastle, among others). Which makes me a bit sceptical. But hey, I could be wrong.
Boubacar Kamara deal to be done in next few days.
10 million is a bargain, hope this is true.
10 million is a bargain, hope this is true.
Source ?
I don't rate a single player we buy until they prove to do it with us -
However, if we can get any player for 10 million that's already a positive.