Did notice that when people think a player is not good enough, they have a tendency to go overboard with critics. Do not comment much here because I've not seen enough games to give a proper judgment and will not base my opinion on youtube clips. But, from a few games that I have, it's quite clear he is a decent crosser and much better than anyone we currently have on our right side in that aspect.
Lucas Moura - (Caf decides he’s naff again) Spurs bound?
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Did notice that when people think a player is not good enough, they have a tendency to go overboard with critics. Do not comment much here because I've not seen enough games to give a proper judgment and will not base my opinion on youtube clips. But, from a few games that I have, it's quite clear he is a decent crosser and much better than anyone we currently have on our right side in that aspect.
Yeah, we need to stop signing shit players like Pogba and Lukaku for record fees.
This f*cking place, I swear...
Lucas offers probably what we need from a winger in this squad right now - width, speed, dribbling, delivery. He'll hug the touchline all day and look to beat his man and get the ball into the box. Lukaku needs more service and Lucas is certainly capable. He might end up costing nearly half of what we could have paid for Perisic, and offers similar traits, whilst also being younger. Yes it might not be the kind of signing that sets our imaginations on fire, but it could be the kind we need at the moment.
Let's not forget, he was good enough for Fergie before he retired, he just didn't want to match what PSG paid for him.
Let's not forget, he was good enough for Fergie before he retired, he just didn't want to match what PSG paid for him.
Why?
Any concrete news today?
I think he could be useful. We need someone who can run and cross, and it doesn’t have to be too fancy. Kust loking at how much Ashley Young brings to the side when playing at the back shows that we need that.
Saw him make a few challenges in the video and Jose's interest all of a sudden made more sense
I checked comparison between Martial 2017/18 and Moura 16/17 (didn't play much this season), they're both nearly equally on wings but considering that we played most of the time attacking come from left wide and scored 82% of total goals from left and central this season in all comp, that's not really good for the likes of United. Having Moura on right-wing meaning that we can play both flanks and can cause much chaotic on right as much as we do on left. We need to reduce our dependency on left as it becomes too predictable for the opponents.
Yeah, final nail in the coffin.
This.
This, exactly.
He can cross first time from right flank, and can avoid defender's shin pad 
You do realise there was a stat the other day that he has the most unsuccessful dribbles in all of Europe. He's hardly tearing up trees.
Tom fookon cleverly was also good enough for Fergie.
Let's not forget that either.
Don't want Maura. He's not my idea of a United player.
Jesus christ why do you weirdos make up this shit just to trash the club.
Neymar close to the same stat I think
Of all players Christian Pulisic?
Chelsea under Mourinho played 4 times against PSG in Champions League.
my mate willie wheelchair is better and he hasn't played since he fell off a garage roof and he dribbles better.
There is so much wrong with my post I'm going to lie down.
There is so much wrong with my post I'm going to lie down.
How reliable is Gazzetta Dello Sport
To be honest, I don't think Pulisic want to go to Liverpool. I believe United will be in for him after next year summer with year contract left or get him on free by the time he's 21. Liverpool has Salah and Mane, where do Pulisic can replace? Amusing Ozil joining United this year on 3 years contract, Pulisic will replace him as soon as Ozil show any sign of decline.
Not to mention that Pulisic is United supporter.
Was about to say i was amazed by the amount of negativity towards the signing of Lucas but suddenly remembered the likes of Victor feckin Valdes and Pedro( remember the uproar when United missed out on him? ) were rated as "world class" by some chief scouts at the Caf He is probably better than all of our attacking options behind the forward line (bar Martial maybe) but it seems our experts are out there again to turn their nose up. Just sign him and give him the number 7 shirt. It's worth just to watch the sheer meltdown in here that will follow.
) were rated as "world class" by some chief scouts at the Caf He is probably better than all of our attacking options behind the forward line (bar Martial maybe) but it seems our experts are out there again to turn their nose up. Just sign him and give him the number 7 shirt. It's worth just to watch the sheer meltdown in here that will follow.Concrete news just got a lot of clicks
Not that I agree with him, but salah could be Madrid bound if he keeps up his form. And who he supports means nothing in football really.
If I remember correctly, they're fairly unreliable. What did they say though?
As much as I want Salah to be at Madrid which means weakening Liverpool but it's not good for EPL, I think he has no interest in Real Madrid if he sees Liverpool show a sign of progressive and winning trophies.
They seem to think that the club as reached an agreement for Moura
Bollocks to that, if Madrid come calling he's a goner. What makes Salah any different to countinho, Suarez, Torres, Sterling etc? They're a selling club.
With an expectation of Sterling because he's English and most English player only seems to be interested in playing for English teams. Coutinho and Suarez are South American who is very fond of Spain - weather, cultural and large south American community there. Torres has year left on contract and refuses to sign a new contract if I recall and so he was sold to Chelsea.
Can you give me a reason of why you think Salah will come to Real Madrid? Because I don't see what Real Madrid can offer Salah if Liverpool started winning trophies constantly.
If you can't see what real Madrid can offer Salah that Liverpool can't, there's no point in getting into a discussion.
Those players left Liverpool for bigger and better clubs, was nothing to do with heritage, they went onto better. That's the point.
You were making a valid case for Liverpool until this. They’re no where near winning anything major.
I asked what Real Madrid can offer that may tempt Salah to join Real Madrid? He has 4 years left on contract and he's happy.
If Real Madrid comes in for him, do you think Salah will force a transfer request in this? He's not like Countiho but from the point of Coutinho's view, I understand. I think Salah's not like that, it's just that he seems to be fonded of Liverpool at the moment and enjoy there. If he has a year left or handing in a transfer request sooner if he don't see any progressive Liverpool made, there will be many clubs in after him and I'd love to get him at United but unfortaletly, Liverpool and United didn't do business together. Only I can see is City and Chelsea. I can imagine Chelsea could be the best option that he would love go back to London rather than Madrid because of location, multicultural, big city, London is pretty known for big Muslim/Arab community. Real Madrid still won't be one that will come in after him.
Looking at what i've wrote I can agree with you lot, i've been a bit... hyperbolic to say the least and I certainly didn't mean it in a way to trash the club, and perhaps Pulisic was a wrong example.
I guess it just stems from the frustration that I know we as a club can do better than Lucas Moura but we seem intent on going down this route anyway, hopefully the rumours of us just wanting a loan are true if this all comes to fruition.
It wouldn't surprise me if we have made some.sort of agreement with Lucas but he isn't our first choice. It seemed last summer that we spoke to a few different players before deciding which one we could sign. I've still got a feeling we'll be in for Malcom.
Thing is Xavi view is far from accurate (clearly narrow view on other style beside Barcelona philosophy).
To compare between Lucas Moura and Sane, I can describe Sane as more elegant dribbler which allows him to pass or shoot better, where as Moura's dribbling, the loose touch means he would find his body being in awkward situation which leads to poor shooting posture, passing angle, bad view of the pitch... Sane is much younger considering average footballers' professional career, so his decision making can be improved. Moura's style clearly dead on at this age, which means it's time to adapt his style to a system that work. Moura can beat several opposition and attack the space which is more suited for counter attack team. Sane can play similar but clearly he can play in possession based team and improve with time. In possession based system, the wide attackers' task ain't just supplying for the central forward but chipping goal. Moura as I just described, would find more trouble than Sane when in crowded position. He can drive challenge, but Moura 's not controlling where he is running well. He ends up in dead end because of that. On counter attack, after you beat the pressing, you have that space to readjust, which this would help Moura.
I agree. I said in another post, his supposed signing would be underwhelming in my view. He helps us fundamentally becoming more balanced since we lack a winger and a consistent ball carrier. However, his inconsistency mean that we can't expect a huge improvement with us already have few inconsistent performers starting. I said in Perisic thread back in the summer. I can see Moura has higher potential, but Perisic is better player at the moment and just what we need.
I can't say I watch Ligue 1 that much only like (1/4 compare to like Serie A, or 1/3 compare La Liga), so take a pich of salt with what I said.
Firstly, about Moura end product. It has been improving before this season, but it's not really impressive. I explained back in Perisic thread: Last season supposed to be his most productive season, Moura seemed to score and assist mostly against lesser teams. And while Perisic has been a key player, Moura even before this season, is not mainstay and a support role. Of course goal and assist may not tell the whole story: workrate off ball, distracting defenders' attention away from your teammates...
Moura clearly has the potential to be a very good player. Thing is I can see his style is not blend well with what PSG wants to play. His supposed better games, seem to be coincide with when he has plenty space behind opposition defense line to attack. Vs compact team, he tends to run into dead end.
I do agree with you for the most part. I just want to add that his style of play would probably work well for us because he does most of his damage with his direct style of play and on the counter attack. For 20m, I think it's worth a gamble.
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