Television Lost: Season 5

The have screwed up if with the whole Locke/Richard thing.

As it stands it seems Richard only went to see Locke because the interaction between the two that took place in last episode. Now when Richard and other first lived on the island, in that time line Locke did not come back and tell them about himself. So, Richard had no reason to go and see Locke. Their interaction explains why Richard would go to visit him in the second time line.

Also if Richard remembered his meeting with Locke to go and visit him, why did not Desmond remember Faraday telling him to go see his mom, before current time line?
 
Good ep, not as good as the first two but still very good.

They havnt screwed up the timelines imo, I can make it make sense in my head but to try and explain would be very difficult and a huge mind feck so im not even going to attempt to explain it :D
 
it basically creates a memory in the current timeline.

*faraday telling desmond to meet his mother = a memory was created in desmonds mind.

*locke telling richard to see him when he's born isn't the same thing as richard went on to

feck it...my head hurts already
 
Also, this Threasa, what did Faraday do t her to put her in that position? Did I miss a scene or something?

And remember in S1 didnt Boone say his babysitter was called Threasa and it that vision Locke had he kept saying "Thereasa falls down the stairs, Thereasa falls up the stairs" or something....a link there maybe?

Oh and no, I dont know how to spell Thereasa :D
 
Also, this Threasa, what did Faraday do t her to put her in that position? Did I miss a scene or something?

And remember in S1 didnt Boone say his babysitter was called Threasa and it that vision Locke had he kept saying "Thereasa falls down the stairs, Thereasa falls up the stairs" or something....a link there maybe?

Oh and no, I dont know how to spell Thereasa :D

:eek: thats a good catch and everything is interlinked in lost
 
it basically creates a memory in the current timeline.

*faraday telling desmond to meet his mother = a memory was created in desmonds mind.

*locke telling richard to see him when he's born isn't the same thing as richard went on to

feck it...my head hurts already
Yes, that makes sense. And lost-gone blog's guy's theory looked good about if Faraday from 2005 goes back in past to tell something to Desmond. Desmond only gets the memory of that event from 2005 onwards. Otherwise if Desmond had that memory even before then he would have recognised Faraday when he first met him.

By same token, Richard should have the memory of meeting Locke only from 2005 onwards. And thus haying no reason to visit him.

Playing with time travel is always messy. I thought they started pretty well with 'you can not changed what has happened' rule, to avoid the Heroes type shit. They need to maintain some consistency now.

Also people fantasising about parallel timelines should give up now because there is no way there gonna explain that on network TV.
 
:eek: thats a good catch and everything is interlinked in lost

Or maybe not, from lostpedia:

"Theresa was Boone's childhood nanny. Boone loved to torment her by calling her up the stairs all day. One day, when Boone was 6, she fell down the stairs and broke her neck. Boone felt responsible for this. It is not known whether the fall killed her. ("Deus Ex Machina")

In his dream, Locke sees Boone repeating, "Theresa falls up the stairs, Theresa falls down the stairs," before Boone told him this story. It is this revelation that leads Boone to believe Locke's dream is more than just a dream. "
 
Yes, that makes sense. And lost-gone blog's guy's theory looked good about if Faraday from 2005 goes back in past to tell something to Desmond. Desmond only gets the memory of that event from 2005 onwards. Otherwise if Desmond had that memory even before then he would have recognised Faraday when he first met him.

By same token, Richard should have the memory of meeting Locke only from 2005 onwards. And thus haying no reason to visit him.

Desmond is special, the rules do not apply to him.
 
Desmond is special, the rules do not apply to him.
That sounds nice but does not exactly mean anything. Only thing I can think of is that perhaps he is the only person who can change the future by his actions. But then he was not allowed to do so in "Flash before your eyes".
 
Thinking about it again, I think Mrs Hawking may well actualy be Faradays mum as at the end of the lie her and ben are in LA are they not?
 
That sounds nice but does not exactly mean anything. Only thing I can think of is that perhaps he is the only person who can change the future by his actions. But then he was not allowed to do so in "Flash before your eyes".

One simply has to just accept it, Faraday is the expert on Time Travel and how it works in the Lost Universe and he said the rules don't apply to Des in this current time travel thing. I think under other circumstances (ie. Des was sent back in time himself) Des wouldn't be able to change things.
 
One simply has to just accept it, Faraday is the expert on Time Travel and how it works in the Lost Universe and he said the rules don't apply to Des in this current time travel thing. I think under other circumstances (ie. Des was sent back in time himself) Des wouldn't be able to change things.
Errrrr again, that does not mean anything. I get the rule that you can not changed what has happened. But then what does the rule not applying to Des bit means? All this still does not explain why Desmond only started to have memory of meeting Faraday now and not since he met him.
 
Errrrr again, that does not mean anything. I get the rule that you can not changed what has happened. But then what does the rule not applying to Des bit means? All this still does not explain why Desmond only started to have memory of meeting Faraday now and not since he met him.

Because the memory was only just created so he would only just remember it.
 
Interesting stuff this episode.

Widmore being on the island as an other (before Dharma). If Elle is Daniels mother then why is she working with Ben? When it looks like its setting up that Widmore will be Daniels father? Perhaps giving a reason for Penny to goto the island to meet her brother?

Why did Widmore leave but perhaps more importantly when? Before or after Dharma arrived on the island?

The nuke has been leaking radiation. We know that Desmond was subjected to abnormal levels of radiation when the swan station imploded. So could the swan station be the resting place of the nuke and could that therefore be linked with the button? The button controlling the nuke and ensuring it didn't detonate?
 
Somebody remind me..what happened when they didn't press the button?
 
Somebody remind me..what happened when they didn't press the button?

From memory:

Jack: lets see what happens when we don't pres it
Locke: NOOOO Jaack!
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP MOTHERfeck BEEP
Locke: Please jack!!
*JACK SMASH COMPITER*
BEEP BEEP BEEP
Flick flick
HYROGLYPHICS REPLACE NUMBRES!!!!
All: Oh noes!!!
*Forks FLY EVERYWEHRE*
Jack: The metal be dflying evryewhre!!
Someone: Its margnetic!!q
Desmond: I PUSH THE FAILSAFE BROUTHER!!
Charlie: LOVE YOU DES
*TURN*
*IMPLOSION
 
From memory:

Jack: lets see what happens when we don't pres it
Locke: NOOOO Jaack!
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP MOTHERfeck BEEP
Locke: Please jack!!
*JACK SMASH COMPITER*
BEEP BEEP BEEP
Flick flick
HYROGLYPHICS REPLACE NUMBRES!!!!
All: Oh noes!!!
*Forks FLY EVERYWEHRE*
Jack: The metal be dflying evryewhre!!
Someone: Its margnetic!!q
Desmond: I PUSH THE FAILSAFE BROUTHER!!
Charlie: LOVE YOU DES
*TURN*
*IMPLOSION
Oh my :lol::lol::lol:
 
One thing that I thought about was when Desmond visited that woman who had been left 'damaged' by Farraday. The same thing was happening to her as what happened to Desmond on the Island - she needed to find her constant.

Her sister told him who she kept talking about - I would have thought Desmond help them out or atleast explain what was going on.
 
i think mrs.hawkings is desmonds mother. the writers like to confuse us and it would be too obvious for her to be faraday's mother.
 
well there weren't any other alternatives other than michael.
 
Lost fanboys give too much importance to themselves. Shows's target audience is thick US TV audience. That is why you had that stupid wheel thing to move the island.That is why they never employ any complex theories, everyone is fantasising about. Most of the TV audience who don't use internet for LOST news would still be surprised by her being Faraday's mother.

Too obvious is calling Locke, Bentham last season so that thickos would think he is actually Ben while anyone with a half brain would know it is definitely not now.