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I’m not ashamed to say this. Liverpool are a brilliant team.

Yes, it pains me to see our biggest rivals storming ahead of everyone. But quite frankly, I have a lot of respect for what they’re doing as a club right now. Their team from back to front has no weak link and I refuse to be one of those fans that lives on our past glories and happy in the knowledge that we are the only team to take points off them - it means nothing.

With the signings we have made I believe we will bridge the gap at least a little. I just don’t believe we can challenge with our current coaching structure. It’s for that reason I believe OGS is more suited to DOF role as he understands the type of player this club needs. He just can’t coach them well enough
 
Jev said:
Wow, @Dante , that's some next level delusion. Do you actually believe what you're writing?


This kind of thinking bugs me a bit. Yes, they've been fortunate with VAR and injuries but the main reason why they have so many points is that they are ridiculously, historically, enviably good. Better to just admit it.
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I said so far ahead, compared to race with City last year.

Aware they're a good side as well.

With a level playing field in terms of the refereeing and VAR + Laporte being fit, both teams would be pretty close together like last year though. The league have messed up big time, didn't need to do what they've done to help them, now the most boring season for a long time.

They're both miles ahead of the rest of the league and of course, wouldn't surprise me if City now win their 14 remaining games, as long as they can play Laporte every week, only one they could struggle with is Liverpool game.
 
@Dante , don't be childish, Liverpool direct competitor now is Man city, drawing to Man Utd or Norwich make no different.

Even you ask them 20-0-2 , lost 2 games to Man Utd and won the other 20 games before the season, they will be laughing and happy wholeheartedly to take it
 
Mb194dc said:
I said so far ahead, compared to race with City last year.

Aware they're a good side as well.

With a level playing field in terms of the refereeing and VAR + Laporte being fit, both teams would be pretty close together like last year though. The league have messed up big time, didn't need to do what they've done to help them, now the most boring season for a long time.

They're both miles ahead of the rest of the league and of course, wouldn't surprise me if City now win their 14 remaining games, as long as they can play Laporte every week, only one they could struggle with is Liverpool game.
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Ridiculous amount of squabbling about this. Of course theyre not distraught by this. Some (therein lies the rub) of us know how 26 yrs feels, never mind 30 but feck me, they’re not going to admit it are they, ffs. Small comfort is all.

things change.
 
Mb194dc said:
I said so far ahead, compared to race with City last year.

Aware they're a good side as well.

With a level playing field in terms of the refereeing and VAR + Laporte being fit, both teams would be pretty close together like last year though. The league have messed up big time, didn't need to do what they've done to help them, now the most boring season for a long time.

They're both miles ahead of the rest of the league and of course, wouldn't surprise me if City now win their 14 remaining games, as long as they can play Laporte every week, only one they could struggle with is Liverpool game.
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Do people actually believe this? I mean actually think the authorities have chosen this specific season to ‘win’ Liverpool the league?

Grown men...
 
PickledRed said:
Do people actually believe this? I mean actually think the authorities have chosen this specific season to ‘win’ Liverpool the league?

Grown men...
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Yes, it's to make the league interesting and the broadcasting rights more sell-able, rather than any specific bias towards a team. City winning 3 years in a row not good. Similar happens with the cup draws as well...
 
Sky1981 said:
Not sure about the 49 games. But the league is theirs.

Their 6 games cushion is too big it's not even a pressure. They could sewn this up within the next 5 games if they're lucky
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Shouldn't go around throwing out spoilers like that, mate. :D But 5 games is probably too soon. City will be playing without any pressure and I can see them winning out till the Liverpool match. Plus CL will be back and we could easily drop points the meantime.

Mb194dc said:
Yes, it's to make the league interesting and the broadcasting rights more sell-able, rather than any specific bias towards a team. City winning 3 years in a row not good. Similar happens with the cup draws as well...
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This actually calls for a Tin foil crown.
- How is the league more interesting now? To Liverpool fans, sure. Who else? Sheffield, Wolves supporters? That's what all this was for?
- What do you mean broadcasting rights are more "sell-able"? Any source to back it up?
- What's wrong with City winning three years in a row if they deserve it?
- What's happening with the cup draws that's suspicious to you? City getting ridiculously easy draws repeatedly on their way to winning the LC+FA cup yet again?

Worst of all, I can't believe you didn't include someone from the PL moving the goal posts at Old Trafford last night. If that's not clear evidence of a conspiracy then I don't know what is.
 
As soon as Liverpool win the title.... klopp will field his u23 team. I don’t see Liverpool going unbeaten this season. And rightly so.. CL is what klopp should be fighting for. The league is done
 
DAK222 said:
Shouldn't go around throwing out spoilers like that, mate. :D But 5 games is probably too soon. City will be playing without any pressure and I can see them winning out till the Liverpool match. Plus CL will be back and we could easily drop points the meantime.



This actually calls for a Tin foil crown.
- How is the league more interesting now? To Liverpool fans, sure. Who else? Sheffield, Wolves supporters? That's what all this was for?
- What do you mean broadcasting rights are more "sell-able"? Any source to back it up?
- What's wrong with City winning three years in a row if they deserve it?
- What's happening with the cup draws that's suspicious to you? City getting ridiculously easy draws repeatedly on their way to winning the LC+FA cup yet again?

Worst of all, I can't believe you didn't include someone from the PL moving the goal posts at Old Trafford last night. If that's not clear evidence of a conspiracy then I don't know what is.
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Like hell you will.

I appreciate the it's not ours till its ours humility from you.

But not this year sadly. This year's yours and rightly so
 
The Boogeyman said:
You're making the mistake of thinking that Liverpool fans place greater emphasis on beating United than anything else, including league titles, European titles, and historic unbeaten and/or winning streaks.

If Liverpool went 37-1, it would still likely be talked about 50 years from now as the greatest league season in history in any top league, especially in England. No Liverpool fans had expectations even close to that before the season, and no team would even be bold enough to aim for the record going forward, so it's not something that would be disappointing in the slightest.
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Pretty sure if they did that it would be the single greatest league season in the history of football in any country, let alone “top leagues”.

Unless someone somewhere in the world has won every single game in a league season before that I’m not aware of? Even in the smaller, more obscure leagues where one team has a monopoly, I’m pretty certain there’s been at least two draws in there if they did go unbeaten.
 
ScouseDipper said:
As soon as Liverpool win the title.... klopp will field his u23 team. I don’t see Liverpool going unbeaten this season. And rightly so.. CL is what klopp should be fighting for. The league is done
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Exactly. Would Arsenal swap their unbeaten record that season for a CL trophy?

The invincible record itself is overrated. The only people really bothered about it is Arsenal because its "their" thing. We only lost 1 game last season and missed out on the title. Had we drawn a few more games, gone unbeaten and still missed out, going unbeaten wouldnt mean anything. It would be fun to mention now and again but it doesnt mean much.

Arsenal got 90 points in their invincible season whilst City have had 100 points. For me 100 points is more impressive.
 
Would I rather we go this season unbeaten and win the league with 98 points or would I rather we lost a couple of games and end up with 106.

Id take the 106 every time.
 
a123 said:
Would I rather we go this season unbeaten and win the league with 98 points or would I rather we lost a couple of games and end up with 106.

Id take the 106 every time.
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Only an idiot or a liar wouldn't. 106 points? Wowsers. The undefeated record will be broken a lot sooner than anyone reaching those points total.
 
ScouseDipper said:
As soon as Liverpool win the title.... klopp will field his u23 team. I don’t see Liverpool going unbeaten this season. And rightly so.. CL is what klopp should be fighting for. The league is done
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Problem with fielding weakened sides is that the regular players could lose their edge & momentum when it comes to playing in the big CL matches. We've shown in recent seasons that we can manage playing 3 times a week towards the end of the season without any loss of form or consistency.
 
crappycraperson said:
@Dante post is obviously a WUM. :lol:
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He's not even winding up anyone. He's just getting mocked and rightly so!


Sky1981 said:
Like hell you will.

I appreciate the it's not ours till its ours humility from you.

But not this year sadly. This year's yours and rightly so
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Haha, I know this year is definitely going to be our year. :D I was only saying that we very likely won't win it before facing off against City.


a123 said:
Would I rather we go this season unbeaten and win the league with 98 points or would I rather we lost a couple of games and end up with 106.

Id take the 106 every time.
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But... what if 6 out of those dropped points came against Utd? Wouldn't we rather only have 98 points? Or something like that.

a123 said:
Arsenal got 90 points in their invincible season whilst City have had 100 points. For me 100 points is more impressive.
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I agree. Teams have been going close to the unbeaten record for a few years now and knew that if a few small things fell their way, then they would have achieved it. But hitting 100 was a truly seminal moment in the league.
 
Mb194dc said:
Yes, it's to make the league interesting and the broadcasting rights more sell-able, rather than any specific bias towards a team. City winning 3 years in a row not good. Similar happens with the cup draws as well...
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Intriguing. Do you have a source of evidence for this watertight conclusion?
 
Mb194dc said:
Yes, it's to make the league interesting and the broadcasting rights more sell-able, rather than any specific bias towards a team. City winning 3 years in a row not good. Similar happens with the cup draws as well...
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The premier league profits from broadcasting rights. How do they convince the referee's association to rig games for them? And on top of this, the fa are also rigging Cup draws.

Are the other conspiracies I need to know about? The fact that three different organisations all conspire to rig the game in England tells me that conspiracies are far more widespread than I've been lead to believe.
 
Barca still regret resting Messi for their loss that year. Odd but theres still a massive allure to an undefeated season that can make up for other stuff......Arsenal for me arent a better side than United 99, 07-09, Chelsea 04-06, City 17-19, Liverpool 18-20 etc etc ... but that invincible tag makes them enduring.

Give me a team that goes for it on all cylinders any day, which I think this Liverpool will continue to do barring “winter break” stubbornness and two games in 2 days youth days....
 
Look at LIverpools fixtures left.
They will win every home game (even if they advance in the CL).

So that leaves the away matches left where they could drop points (im thinking draw, never mind a loss)
From that the toughest on paper are:

City
Everton
Arsenal

The bottom two I still expect them to win (they always beat Everton anyway even when playing kids).
So that really leaves City (who have just got Laporte back) as the one. Pep will want to win that. So seriously, City away looks like the only game where Liverpool can lose. I honestly think they can win every other game (and that will depend on CL progression)

Its nuts to think if they went 37-0-1 that the only way to beat that is to win every single damn game. Hats off to the momentum but its so annoying and sickly as well.
 
On some levels going the season unbeaten would be fantastic. However winning the league is above all else the priority this season. Anything else is a bonus. What we are seeing this season is a footballing machine. Ruthless and efficient. We're not the most entertaining side to watch but I really admire what Jurgen Klopp has done since he became manager. Genuinely was beginning to think I would not see us win the Premier League between United, Arsenal, Chelsea and now Manchester City.
We won the European Cup last season. On course to win the Premier League this season. I don't see anyone challenging us next season unless City rebuild. United and Arsenal are miles behind. Chelsea are suspect defensively. Mourinho will cause mayhem at Tottenham. Leicester and Wolves don't have the squad to be title winners.
 
Zen said:
Barca still regret resting Messi for their loss that year. Odd but theres still a massive allure to an undefeated season that can make up for other stuff......Arsenal for me arent a better side than United 99, 07-09, Chelsea 04-06, City 17-19, Liverpool 18-20 etc etc ... but that invincible tag makes them enduring.

Give me a team that goes for it on all cylinders any day, which I think this Liverpool will continue to do barring “winter break” stubbornness and two games in 2 days youth days....
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Wenger's double sides were better than the Invincibles. In fact the 01-02 team had gone unbeaten away from home and scored in every league match (a record Liverpool can match). They probably should've retained the league the following season (thank god for Bolton!) and had a free pass for the Champions League by 2004.

I think if Liverpool beat Atletico then Klopp will focus on the Champions League. So he will rest players in the league.
 
B20 said:
The premier league profits from broadcasting rights. How do they convince the referee's association to rig games for them? And on top of this, the fa are also rigging Cup draws.

Are the other conspiracies I need to know about? The fact that three different organisations all conspire to rig the game in England tells me that conspiracies are far more widespread than I've been lead to believe.
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Pep yesterday after Spurs game:

The last two seasons, they said City winning the title was bad for the Premier League and that it could not happen again,” said Guardiola. “The Premier League said someone has to stop City getting 100 points and winning it again. So now it is Liverpool you have to be concerned with about the Premier League.
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Mourinho has bought it up as well in 15/16 season as well. Not a new phenomenon.
 
giorno said:
No they don't. What they regret are the 0-3 and 0-4 in CL
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You can have more than one regret, and yes they do regret it, or well the fans scorn it still. Same shit, just another title instead of something unique.
 
Mb194dc said:
Pep yesterday after Spurs game:



Mourinho has bought it up as well in 15/16 season as well. Not a new phenomenon.
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You didn't answer my question. How does the Premier league get the referee's association in on this?

Also, would you say that the FA are in cahoots with the Premier league, or more a case of parallel corruption?
 
It's not that I reject the possibility that some elements of corruption exist in English football. I can well imagine that the Premier league would rig fixture lists to create a better entertainment product.

Stuff like them rigging who wins the title though is the kind of fantasy that only works when you lazily conflate different bodies into "the authorities" without any thought to how possible it is for them to implement such corruption if they wanted to.
 
B20 said:
It's not that I reject the possibility that some elements of corruption exist in English football. I can well imagine that the Premier league would rig fixture lists to create a better entertainment product.

Stuff like them rigging who wins the title though is the kind of fantasy that only works when you lazily conflate different bodies into "the authorities" without any thought to how possible it is for them to implement such corruption if they wanted to.
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Agree, it's the same crap that was thrown against us under Fergie. Enjoy your moment in the sun, it's more than deserved.

Here's hoping Klopp gets homesick soon ;)
 
groovyalbert said:
Agree, it's the same crap that was thrown against us under Fergie. Enjoy your moment in the sun, it's more than deserved.

Here's hoping Klopp gets homesick soon ;)
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Well after rigging the PL in precisely 13 out of the first 20 seasons, the "authorities" seem to have gotten pretty good at it. :D The best part of this conspiracy theory I heard recently is that over the winter, 3-4 teams played Liverpool right after playing City and the theory was that the fixtures were chosen like that so they would be tired after playing City and then Liverpool would have an easy time. Sadly, their plans didn't account for City being abysmal this season.
 
So Mb194dc, are you basically saying that the Premier League is now Professional Wrestling? With pre-determined storylines?
 
Why they feck didn't they do a better job of preventing Ferguson from picking up every league title that wasn't contested by an exceptional title challenger (and some that were as well)?

Also a bit miffed that it took them 30 years to realise that Liverpool winning the title is good for the brand.
 
Mb194dc said:
Pep yesterday after Spurs game:



Mourinho has bought it up as well in 15/16 season as well. Not a new phenomenon.
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Your misrepresenting what Pep has said and inferring that he is suggesting a conspiracy has taken place. What he is referring to is the 17/18 season which City won by 19 points. A lot of people at that time said it wasnt good for the Premier league to have a team winning by that amount. Last season was a stunner for the integrity of the division and most were thrilled. He was most certainly not suggesting that the premier league have conspired against City this year but was suggesting that the same individuals should now make the same claim against Liverpool. If the Premier league were trying to sell more of their product abroad then a repeat of 18/19 season is what sells best.
 
AdamColeBebe said:
So Mb194dc, are you basically saying that the Premier League is now Professional Wrestling? With pre-determined storylines?
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Now? Its been like that for a long time. It's an entertainment product, my view is it's managed to get the most money from the TV rights as the primary objective. It's not predetermined, but a "push" is given to what the league want to happen and to try make it more exciting.

To me it's pretty clear what Pep means, just go look at the descisons against City earlier in the season as well as for Liverpool.... Plus those incidents not even reviewed. Also see what Mourinho was saying in 2015. Essentially the same thing, Mourinho even called Scudamore out live on SKY about it.
 
Mb194dc said:
Now? Its been like that for a long time. It's an entertainment product, my view is it's managed to get the most money from the TV rights as the primary objective. It's not predetermined, but a "push" is given to what the league want to happen and to try make it more exciting.

To me it's pretty clear what Pep means, just go look at the descisons against City earlier in the season as well as for Liverpool.... Plus those incidents not even reviewed. Also see what Mourinho was saying in 2015. Essentially the same thing, Mourinho even called Scudamore out live on SKY about it.
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Listen VAR should have sent Sterling off. Ankle breaking type tackle. City defender shouldn't have been sent walking but the ref was looking to make up for that VAR blunder from before. The ref probably seen Sterling's tackle again in the replay but it's now too late to send him off.
 
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Mb194dc said:
Now? Its been like that for a long time. It's an entertainment product, my view is it's managed to get the most money from the TV rights as the primary objective. It's not predetermined, but a "push" is given to what the league want to happen and to try make it more exciting.

To me it's pretty clear what Pep means, just go look at the descisons against City earlier in the season as well as for Liverpool.... Plus those incidents not even reviewed. Also see what Mourinho was saying in 2015. Essentially the same thing, Mourinho even called Scudamore out live on SKY about it.
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Are you really suggesting it's a conspiracy to make sure Liverpool wins it? And the referees are in it too?
 
Mb194dc said:
Now? Its been like that for a long time. It's an entertainment product, my view is it's managed to get the most money from the TV rights as the primary objective. It's not predetermined, but a "push" is given to what the league want to happen and to try make it more exciting.

To me it's pretty clear what Pep means, just go look at the descisons against City earlier in the season as well as for Liverpool.... Plus those incidents not even reviewed. Also see what Mourinho was saying in 2015. Essentially the same thing, Mourinho even called Scudamore out live on SKY about it.
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Aye that Blackburn title win was a money spinner!
 
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