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Now? Its been like that for a long time. It's an entertainment product, my view is it's managed to get the most money from the TV rights as the primary objective. It's not predetermined, but a "push" is given to what the league want to happen and to try make it more exciting.

Make it more exciting by having one team 22 points ahead in January. Sounds legit.
 
Are you really suggesting it's a conspiracy to make sure Liverpool wins it? And the referees are in it too?

Haha and why now? Why haven’t they conspired to let us win multiple times before that?
 
Brilliant, Brilliant team. They're as good as Uniteds 99 & 07-09 team, As good as that 1998 & 2002 Arsenal team, the 05-06 Chelsea team, the most recent City team.

But they won't go unbeaten. Klopp will put the kids out once its wrapped up and you saw what happened last time he did that against PL opposition, Villa dicked them 5-0.
 
Yes, it's to make the league interesting and the broadcasting rights more sell-able, rather than any specific bias towards a team. City winning 3 years in a row not good. Similar happens with the cup draws as well...
You don't seriously believe this do you?
 
Now? Its been like that for a long time. It's an entertainment product, my view is it's managed to get the most money from the TV rights as the primary objective. It's not predetermined, but a "push" is given to what the league want to happen and to try make it more exciting.

To me it's pretty clear what Pep means, just go look at the descisons against City earlier in the season as well as for Liverpool.... Plus those incidents not even reviewed. Also see what Mourinho was saying in 2015. Essentially the same thing, Mourinho even called Scudamore out live on SKY about it.

....so predetermined

That's like saying in WWE the matches aren't predetermined but the referees give a "push" to what Vince wants to happen and tries to make it more exciting...but it's not predetermined.
 
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Make it more exciting by having one team 22 points ahead in January. Sounds legit.

applauds post, would "like" it if I could

Also if this is the case, why does any team outside the top 6 even exist? Do they literally just exist as fodder for Liverpool? Why does Barnet exist? Cowdenbeath who are rock bottom of Scottish League Two? If this mass conspiracy exists, how far does it stretch? What teams are in the conspiracy's locus and what teams aren't? Are Leicester inside it? Sheffield United? Wolves? Why are Norwich bottom? You need to come up with a complete explanation if you are seriously still trying to sell it to us.
 
Make it more exciting by having one team 22 points ahead in January. Sounds legit.
That wasn't the plan, but now they don't know how to stop what they've already started.

or something.
 
Pretty mental to be fair. Surely they’re doping or something at this stage


■ Liverpool are now unbeaten in 43 league games, closing in on Arsenal's all-time record of 49.
■ They have collected a remarkable 102 points from the past 105 available.
■ The Reds have picked up 35 wins from their last 36 games - a 1-1 draw at Manchester United in October the only blemish.
■ They have won 17 games in a row - one shy of Manchester City's record - and kept 10 clean sheets in their past 11 games.
 


Yeah thats a bit disingenuous considering thats not the argument.

The argument is how many times VAR has not taken action that would disadvantage you. Fouls your players have committed in the build up, offsides early in the build up, handballs, penalties that have been awarded for dives.
 
Yeah thats a bit disingenuous considering thats not the argument.

The argument is how many times VAR has not taken action that would disadvantage you. Fouls your players have committed in the build up, offsides early in the build up, handballs, penalties that have been awarded for dives.

He's provided the stats. Maybe you need to find something similar for your use case.
 
He's provided the stats. Maybe you need to find something similar for your use case.

Liverpool
Times benefited from incorrect VAR decision: 11
Times victim of incorrect VAR decision: 0
Net: 11
Points +/-: +14 Points.


Pretty damning actually.
 
Liverpool
Times benefited from incorrect VAR decision: 11
Times victim of incorrect VAR decision: 0
Net: 11
Points +/-: +14 Points.


Pretty damning actually.

Could I have that same criteria applied across all 20 teams for context, and a link with pretty pictures?
 
Pretty mental to be fair. Surely they’re doping or something at this stage


■ Liverpool are now unbeaten in 43 league games, closing in on Arsenal's all-time record of 49.
■ They have collected a remarkable 102 points from the past 105 available.
■ The Reds have picked up 35 wins from their last 36 games - a 1-1 draw at Manchester United in October the only blemish.
■ They have won 17 games in a row - one shy of Manchester City's record - and kept 10 clean sheets in their past 11 games.
The stats are like my FM team after I played 4 seasons, bought all the superstars and completely dominated the league.
 
Liverpool
Times benefited from incorrect VAR decision: 11
Times victim of incorrect VAR decision: 0
Net: 11
Points +/-: +14 Points.


Pretty damning actually.
Haven't we had 2 goals chalked off against United alone? The one at Anfield very very dodgy
 
Surely they’re doping or something at this stage

I wouldn’t be surprised if we were. Moreover, I’d be shocked if the other top teams weren’t doping in one way or another. There’s really no reason not to dope once you get to the top. Given the amount of money all the teams make now, it seems like it would be easy to get away with as well.
 
If you said to a United fan in 2013 'Sir Alex is retiring in May, please write down your worst case scenario for the next 7 years', it wouldn't be too far removed from what we've seen.

I mean, it isn't unrealistic to think those bastards could get 112 points this season.
 
Haven't we had 2 goals chalked off against United alone? The one at Anfield very very dodgy

No that didn't happen. I think you must be misremembering and it was probably United that scored and had it chalked off.
 
I have never seen anything like it. Their form in the last 60 games is a joke.
 
They're never going to lose again are they
They'll lose at some point, probably to Chelsea in the cup. I can't see them taking their foot off the gas in the league unless it's sown up and they have a tricky quarter/semi-final.

Their progression and form is incredible whichever way you look at it (when Klopp joined, the last two seasons, this season), but as City have shown, it's ridiculously hard to keep standards high in the long term. And as Arsenal showed with the unbeaten run, it sometimes signals the end of something rather than the start. It's a given next season will be tricky (especially with the Olympics, and ACON thrown in), but they look equipped to retain the title even with a few defeats.

What is frightening is how big the gap is between first and fifth.
 
The stats are like my FM team after I played 4 seasons, bought all the superstars and completely dominated the league.

It's hard to replicate those results even if you're cheating in FM.
103 points from the past 105 available is just absurd.

Edit. Fixed it from 102. It's 103 not 102
 
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It’s also from the past 104 points available, not 105. So I guess that makes it more absurd.
 
It’s also from the past 104 points available, not 105. So I guess that makes it more absurd.
It's 105, you can't divide 104 by 3. Although I think it was 103 out of 105 which makes you both wrong tbh :D
 
It's 105, you can't divide 104 by 3. Although I think it was 103 out of 105 which makes you both wrong tbh :D

My point is you can’t lose 3 points from a draw. So it’s either 102 from 104 or 103 from 105.
 
It’s verging on suspicious, but I don’t want to be seen as bitter :D

When Salah scores late on against us and he did the shirtless flex, I was left thinking though. Is that the result of an intense fitness regime perfected through experience, or something more sinister and untoward?
 
I'm glad this sort of form is so infrequent in the sport, no matter who it was, it would be boring at this point. Has to have an impact on opponents efforts in games too, it shouldn't but I can't see how mentally it couldn't. Lovely situation for Liverpool to have themselves in, but I don't think the PL or anyone would be too pleased if we had another season just like this.
 
I would have fancied City to beat them later in a month or so (or whenever it is that match is played) but I wonder how much this CL scandal has affected them. Guess we''ll see.

It'll probably be some really stupid result that will cost them the invincibles tag. They remind me a lot of some of the Chelsea and United teams of old where they beat you through ruthless efficiency and mental strength and not necessarily through free flowing football all the time.
 
They look so beatable. This is what I don’t get.

Just need more teams to attack more, which provides more guilt edge chances like Ings or Pukki, to prove this theory. Miss one, but score from at least one other chance created per game. Hope you've personally spoken with Simeone to advise him to go all out attack on Tuesday. ;)
 
When Utd had Fergie at the helm, most teams were beaten in the tunnel. You line up next to the red shirts of Utd at Old Trafford knowing that no matter how well you play or how many you score, the odds are you're going to get beaten. Even being a goal or two up with the clock ticking towards 90mins meant nothing as you knew that Utd would always score. Clearly they didn't always but as an opposing player and certainly as an opposition fan, it felt like you did.

Liverpool have this right now and the mentality of our players can't be underestimated. We've scored so many late goals and kept so many clean sheets now that we have all the confidence in the world and the opposition effectively has none. At this level of the game, the psychological impact is huge and we've got the players, manager and work ethic to capitalise on that.

We happen to also be a very good football team but then so are City and look what that lack of confidence in the Champions League does to them. Same as PSG and the same as Barcelona over the last two campaigns.
 
When Utd had Fergie at the helm, most teams were beaten in the tunnel. You line up next to the red shirts of Utd at Old Trafford knowing that no matter how well you play or how many you score, the odds are you're going to get beaten. Even being a goal or two up with the clock ticking towards 90mins meant nothing as you knew that Utd would always score. Clearly they didn't always but as an opposing player and certainly as an opposition fan, it felt like you did.

Liverpool have this right now and the mentality of our players can't be underestimated. We've scored so many late goals and kept so many clean sheets now that we have all the confidence in the world and the opposition effectively has none. At this level of the game, the psychological impact is huge and we've got the players, manager and work ethic to capitalise on that.

We happen to also be a very good football team but then so are City and look what that lack of confidence in the Champions League does to them. Same as PSG and the same as Barcelona over the last two campaigns.

You’re right, and it’s fecking irritating. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 
I keep telling myself that it will end at some point and then we can go back to laughing at their delusions and quoting their insane ramblings from rawk.

This could be a few years away though... dear God no!
 
Just realised that games 48 and 49 in their run are against Palace and then City. Palace would be a poetic end to their run, one shy of the record and City will throw absolutely everything at them. If they break it they'll fully deserve every accolade that comes their way.
 
Just realised that games 48 and 49 in their run are against Palace and then City. Palace would be a poetic end to their run, one shy of the record and City will throw absolutely everything at them. If they break it they'll fully deserve every accolade that comes their way.
Palace have a pretty appalling record against Liverpool but they’re seen as some kind of bogey side because of the 3-3. Odd really.
 
Doesn't really matter if they go 50 games unbeaten or the whole season. I'm more concerned about them winning the CL or a treble.