Liverpool 2024-25 | Inevitably winning a..."treble"

Liverpool were twenty-five points ahead of City, who had only ten games left to play, already out of all remaining cups when the lockdowns started, and probably hit their worst form of the season once games'd resumed. In what possible way were they lucky to have Covid?
covid was a goverment conspiricy and jim ratcliffes was told about it by his tory pals so we decided not to try that season or any other season since. liverpool as a county are so anti goverment and anti newspaper that they didnt get the same memo as all the other teams and they somehow think it all counts
 
no need to be so bitter, just appreciate your 99 treble which was fantastic, as was City's
I can't even remember the year City won it now, or who they beat in the final.

1999 will be forever etched in my memory however, as will the teams, scorers and goals.

United's for me was a much, much more memorable and fantastic feat. I think I'd forgotten City's within a week of them winning it unless something stirs my memory they even did it, like this thread.

City winning things just feels like PSG winning things, totally apathetic to it all, it's all artifical, for want of a better word it's all just 'meh.'

When Newcastle eventually start winning things, I'll feel the same about them. Hopefully for you that doesn't start in the coming weeks (as it stands I think they'll bottle the final again.)
 
The biggest connection between the two, for me, is how there were/are signs of a slide in late January/early February in both seasons. They were incredibly lucky Covid truncated the ‘19/20 year as they were seriously wobbling in the preceding 3-4 weeks and suffered comprehensive defeats (Watford and Atletico Madrid) in that window.
The Atletico game you're talking about (assuming you mean the one at Anfield) finished with 34 shots for Liverpool and 72% possession, vs their 10 shots across 120 minutes. We were 25 points ahead with 11 to play. You think we were going to go on and and lost most of our remaining games?

The 2020/21 season was impacted by Covid far more than 19/20 was.
 
Their “treble” was not fantastic whatsoever.
Exactly. I didn't even have to stay off football media for more than a couple of days after it. It just vanished from the news like it never happened.

No one cared. Except, it seems, some Liverpool fans.
 
Not winning tough away games in the prem as a few of us predicted in the winter I see. @Sandikan ;)

Arsenal basically already been to all the top half on the road. Liverpool still to go to all of Man. City, Fulham, Brighton and Chelsea.

If Arsenal can hang in there with 3/4 point difference going into April it's going to be a very interesting climax to the title race as Liverpool shown some vulnerability in the last week.
 
Not winning tough away games in the prem as a few of us predicted in the winter I see. @Sandikan ;)

Arsenal basically already been to all the top half on the road. Liverpool still to go to all of Man. City, Fulham, Brighton and Chelsea.

If Arsenal can hang in there with 3/4 point difference going into April it's going to be a very interesting climax to the title race as Liverpool shown some vulnerability in the last week.
They’ll be fine assuming Salah remains fit as he always does. His numbers alone are enough to keep the points gap. If he were to miss games, it may start to get a little more interesting.
 
Not winning tough away games in the prem as a few of us predicted in the winter I see. @Sandikan ;)

Arsenal basically already been to all the top half on the road. Liverpool still to go to all of Man. City, Fulham, Brighton and Chelsea.

If Arsenal can hang in there with 3/4 point difference going into April it's going to be a very interesting climax to the title race as Liverpool shown some vulnerability in the last week.
After City, I think 8 of our remaining 11 are at home.
 
Not winning tough away games in the prem as a few of us predicted in the winter I see. @Sandikan ;)

Arsenal basically already been to all the top half on the road. Liverpool still to go to all of Man. City, Fulham, Brighton and Chelsea.

If Arsenal can hang in there with 3/4 point difference going into April it's going to be a very interesting climax to the title race as Liverpool shown some vulnerability in the last week.
They're not winning games at Villa either.
But have you seen Arsenal's attack right now? Although they should smash Southampton next up.

Genuinely as poor as ours. Although at least they have 4 out. We have just Amad out.
 
Not winning tough away games in the prem as a few of us predicted in the winter I see. @Sandikan ;)

Arsenal basically already been to all the top half on the road. Liverpool still to go to all of Man. City, Fulham, Brighton and Chelsea.

If Arsenal can hang in there with 3/4 point difference going into April it's going to be a very interesting climax to the title race as Liverpool shown some vulnerability in the last week.
I looked at the fixtures and I might be overthinking it but Liverpool's did look a bit trickier (wishful thinking on my part perhaps).

If Arsenal win their game in hand the gap is five points. Not insurmountable by any means.
 
They will win the league and league cup. Champions League will be beyond them. Great first season for Slot, but I don't expect them to improve on that.
 
United being top of the tree hurt far more. Similarly, Liverpool doing well is messing with the heads of United fans - a dagger to the heart. But that comes with the entry fee. It’s the risk that comes with caring.
We love you too, you Scouse prick.
 
I looked at the fixtures and I might be overthinking it but Liverpool's did look a bit trickier (wishful thinking on my part perhaps).

If Arsenal win their game in hand the gap is five points. Not insurmountable by any means.
It's Arsenal we're talking about. That gap might as well be fifty points.
 
They’ll be fine assuming Salah remains fit as he always does. His numbers alone are enough to keep the points gap. If he were to miss games, it may start to get a little more interesting.

They've dropped 12 points since the start of December.

Another 12 points dropped in the run in and they end on 85 points so this is significant drop from what has won the league since Leicester really and why I still give Arsenal an outside shot as the margin for error is a much higher bar than previous years.

Arsenal beat West Ham and Liverpool lose at Man. City and gap is 5 points with Arsenal suddenly having a spare game.
 
After City, I think 8 of our remaining 11 are at home.
You've got Leicester away aswell but that should be a gimme.

Fulham and Brighton in the run in will be tricky as both will probably be in contention for europe and both usually give you tough games at Anfield. Might also be between CL ties which is always difficult to juggle.
 
They're not winning games at Villa either.
But have you seen Arsenal's attack right now? Although they should smash Southampton next up.

Genuinely as poor as ours. Although at least they have 4 out. We have just Amad out.

Arsenal just need to keep spamming 1-0s from set pieces like start of season for next month I think. West Ham is a must win and after that it gets tricky with Forest away and then Man. United and Chelsea either side of the CL ties.

Start of April I presume Martinelli and Saka return so they will at least have pace and width in attack so Arteta needs to decide in next few weeks who is going to be the central player and stick to it.
 
Not winning tough away games in the prem as a few of us predicted in the winter I see. @Sandikan ;)

Arsenal basically already been to all the top half on the road. Liverpool still to go to all of Man. City, Fulham, Brighton and Chelsea.

If Arsenal can hang in there with 3/4 point difference going into April it's going to be a very interesting climax to the title race as Liverpool shown some vulnerability in the last week.
Absolutely. Arsenal need to really just somehow hang on over the next 5-6 league games and this Liverpool side is there to be caught. They're regularly dropping points and will continue to.
Oh yeah. Away's are Fulham, Chelsea, Brighton & Leicester.
Should be winning 2 of those atleast.
 
Arsenal just need to keep spamming 1-0s from set pieces like start of season for next month I think. West Ham is a must win and after that it gets tricky with Forest away and then Man. United and Chelsea either side of the CL ties.

Start of April I presume Martinelli and Saka return so they will at least have pace and width in attack so Arteta needs to decide in next few weeks who is going to be the central player and stick to it.
Even with their depleted attack, they really should win this. If they do, Liverpool will really be facing the pressure ahead of their game at the Etihad. It wasn't looking very likely in December but we have a (poor quality) title race on here.
 
Arsenal just need to keep spamming 1-0s from set pieces like start of season for next month I think. West Ham is a must win and after that it gets tricky with Forest away and then Man. United and Chelsea either side of the CL ties.

Start of April I presume Martinelli and Saka return so they will at least have pace and width in attack so Arteta needs to decide in next few weeks who is going to be the central player and stick to it.
United away isn't a tough game. We're absolutely running on empty with a skeleton cast out.
 
United away isn't a tough game. We're absolutely running on empty with a skeleton cast out.

It should be a win for Arsenal but could see Amorim just packing the defence to try to get a 0-0 and stop the losing sequence at Old Trafford.

Perhaps one of your kids upfront might morph into Rashford from Feb 2016 aswell if given a chance.
 
United away isn't a tough game. We're absolutely running on empty with a skeleton cast out.
Arsenal historically don't do well at Old Trafford so it might be a challenge but if Arsenal can't beat this version of United, even with their attacking injuries, they don't deserve the title.
 
Absolutely. Arsenal need to really just somehow hang on over the next 5-6 league games and this Liverpool side is there to be caught. They're regularly dropping points and will continue to.

Should be winning 2 of those atleast.
I think we could win all four. Fulham sticks out more than Chelsea. Feels like Chelsea are on a huge slump. I expect Arsenal to beat them comfortably.
 
Arsenal historically don't do well at Old Trafford so it might be a challenge but if Arsenal can't beat this version of United, even with their attacking injuries, they don't deserve the title.
That'll be the easiest game their set piece coach has managed in his life.
 
Always expected them to drop points in these tough away games, the fixtures were kind at the start, I think they've won 2 out of their last 8 away games now.

Unfortunately I still believe there's still too big a gap to Arsenal considering our injury problems and the fact we'd need a run similar to last season to stand a chance.
 
Always expected them to drop points in these tough away games, the fixtures were kind at the start, I think they've won 2 out of their last 8 away games now.

Unfortunately I still believe there's still too big a gap to Arsenal considering our injury problems and the fact we'd need a run similar to last season to stand a chance.
If you go on that kind of run, you'll most definitely win this title. Debatable if you guys can though.
 
Always expected them to drop points in these tough away games, the fixtures were kind at the start, I think they've won 2 out of their last 8 away games now.
Won 4 of our last 6 in the league, 5 of our last 8. Only team unbeaten away from home.

The defeats at Plymouth and PSV can be thrown out of the window as well when assessing our away form.
 
A point away at Villa would ordinarily be a plus, but I can't help feeling Liverpool are doubting themselves now. A cup defeat, a draw, a very fortunate win at home v's Wolves. They're definitely feeling the pressure.

I can see Newcastle turning them over in the League Cup, and looking at their fixtures they've got some really tough games.

The game v's Arsenal at the back end of the season will be the title decider I think. By that time I think there'll only be 1-3 points between the sides, and it might be Arsenal in front then.

They don't help themselves by playing Nunez, he must miss at least 1 sitter every time I watch him. I called him spoon feet in another post yesterday, now I think I'll have to start calling him Spoonyfoot McEgghead as he misses headers just as badly as shots. They might as well have kept Origi or Borini, they were just as bad but a lot cheaper.
 
Won 4 of our last 6 in the league, 5 of our last 8. Only team unbeaten away from home.

The defeats at Plymouth and PSV can be thrown out of the window as well when assessing our away form.
For me I feel like we've done well to remain unbeaten during what has been a bit of a slump. We've had a tough run of games but we've remained unbeaten.

After City and Newcastle, we have a 10 day break before we play Southampton at home, then a week before the game against Newcastle (although CL is in there somewhere I guess). After that the gap between league games looks a bit kinder. If we were to win on Sunday and beat Newcastle, I'd fancy us to win it from there.

You would think Arsenal's legs will start to feel it soon as well. So many games being played.
 
They'll be fine, unfortunately. If they had the usual machine-like City hunting them down, they might panic but an injury riddled Arsenal? That's no threat.
 
Even if Pool 6pts drop point, Arsenal have to win every game from now until the end of the season. That’s not an easy feat with the banged up squad they have…
 
Won 4 of our last 6 in the league, 5 of our last 8. Only team unbeaten away from home.

The defeats at Plymouth and PSV can be thrown out of the window as well when assessing our away form.

It wasn't really a dig. I said back in November from what I've seen this season games at the likes of Villa, Newcastle, Forest, Brentford, Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham are going to be really tough games this season, and will be grounds where both teams will drop points, we had already played most of them, you guys had most still to play, that's why at the time I held out some hope we could close the gap. However I also was hoping we'd take care of games like Everton and Villa at home and that's why the gap is still significant.

I also of course hadn't legislated for the injuries we now have in the forward areas, so while I think you will continue to drop some points, possibly even some more at the weekend vs City, we're probably more likely to drop points at the likes of Forest or Utd who we have coming up, so ultimately we will fall short. My hope is that we can at least make a race of it.
 
Even if Pool 6pts drop point, Arsenal have to win every game from now until the end of the season. That’s not an easy feat with the banged up squad they have…
This is the problem. Draws are actually fine for the Dippers as they're so far out and Arsenal are so injured. The 'wobble' isn't that unexpected as they always seem to do it in the run-in, but with a 5 point gap with 12 to go (assuming Arsenal beat West Ham) the Dippers will likely need to drop a minimum of 12 points for Arsenal to over take them as they're not winning out. This title run is essentially like a poor quality version of their Covid win, or a repeat (minus the lockdown) if you believe they were falling off a cliff when Covid hit.
 
This is the problem. Draws are actually fine for the Dippers as they're so far out and Arsenal are so injured. The 'wobble' isn't that unexpected as they always seem to do it in the run-in, but with a 5 point gap with 12 to go (assuming Arsenal beat West Ham) the Dippers will likely need to drop a minimum of 12 points for Arsenal to over take them as they're not winning out. This title run is essentially like a poor quality version of their Covid win, or a repeat (minus the lockdown) if you believe they were falling off a cliff when Covid hit.
Arsenal have to beat them at Anfield with Saka back by then. Will be a cracking game as long as Arsenal don't score first and early.
 
This is the problem. Draws are actually fine for the Dippers as they're so far out and Arsenal are so injured. The 'wobble' isn't that unexpected as they always seem to do it in the run-in, but with a 5 point gap with 12 to go (assuming Arsenal beat West Ham) the Dippers will likely need to drop a minimum of 12 points for Arsenal to over take them as they're not winning out. This title run is essentially like a poor quality version of their Covid win, or a repeat (minus the lockdown) if you believe they were falling off a cliff when Covid hit.
Draws are sometimes worse than it seems. People may think getting a point away at Villa and City are good results. But you would rather win one and lose one of those games. That would be an extra point.