Do you have these for City and Chelsea as well? Interesting, although I'd like to see both of our backs and one midfielder in our own half against better sides.Their average positions. Only 2 players in their own half.
United for comparison. Only two in the opposition half.
Liverpool 2018/19
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Actually they did.I’m seriously worried about these guys this season. They’ve been slowly building a strong team under Klopp, buying well and playing some impressive stuff too. They didn’t fluke their way to the CL final either last season, they deserved their place there.
They now look ready to mount a serious challenge for the title, more than we do
I’m half hoping City don’t do their usual bottle job of defending a league title because the scum look best placed to catch them.
There I’ve said it. Now feck the scousers into oblivion, may they never win the league ever again
I’m seriously worried about these guys this season. They’ve been slowly building a strong team under Klopp, buying well and playing some impressive stuff too. They didn’t fluke their way to the CL final either last season, they deserved their place there.
They now look ready to mount a serious challenge for the title, more than we do
I’m half hoping City don’t do their usual bottle job of defending a league title because the scum look best placed to catch them.
There I’ve said it. Now feck the scousers into oblivion, may they never win the league ever again
They won't challenge City. Although they got a lot more depth this year, the difference squad wise is night and day still, plus they almost replaced their whole starters in midfield (when Fabinho is integrated). City's (Pep's) style is also tailor made for league games. I can see them going very, very far in the CL again though.
I have to admit that Liverpool are quite good to watch this season and they have a good chance for the league.
I also have to admit that I hope this post will be a mega jinx.
I also have to admit that I hope this post will be a mega jinx.
Because Mourinho has spent more earlier in his tenure as United manager, the signings have been given a season or two to perform and considering the outlay, they haven’t yet delivered. That’s not to say they won’t, eventually. Before you bring up the spend on VVD and Allison and use this to judge his results to date, as many in this forum have done, surely these players should also be given at least a season?
Surely just a matter of opinion, however biased?
I’ll accept we had a relatively easy route through the CL this year (City notwithstanding) but we played well most games and deserved to win those games. Also, while it might have been slightly fortunate to avoid Bayern and Barca in earlier rounds, this was still CL quality teams we were putting away.
No doubt your route to Europa League glory was significantly more difficult.
Just not the performance but they bought well over the summer and last winter. Plus the fact that no team has repeated since United did a decade ago.
Need to have some luck though, sure we'll get far if the draw is kind to us like last year but if we face Atlético or the likes of Bayern/Barcelona in the Round of 16 it could be a very short story.
Yesterday was a walk in the park but I'm sure next week will provide us with a much more stern test away from home against Palace. We need to dispose of the cannon fodder, not leak soft goals and do a little bit better in the big games, especially at home. If we can do that, I can see us getting 80+ points which should be good enough for second, and maybe a title challenge depending on how City do this season. Still expect them to do as well as last season though.
Not winning anything at the end of the season without sounding crude, it's like having sex without 'finishing' at the end of it. Great whilst you are doing it, but with no end product (excuse the pun). Personally I like to have both, but if I can't give me 'finishing' any day of the week!!! All the sexy football amounts too nothing if there's nothing to show for it. That said, shit sex isn't fun either....
I didn't say that though did I ? I merely used the expression of many United fans on here who don't approve of United's style of play under Mourinho, thus their expectations are of a time when United won things playing exciting, expansive football. Liverpool & Spurs play some good stuff, therefore the supporters of both clubs are happy in that respect & hope the football they play will eventually bring its own rewards. So when we're talking about expectations, let me just remind you that a lot of your fellow fans expect us to finish higher than your team this season. Tell me, how exactly is that having higher expectations ? Let me also remind you that Kenny Dalglish won silverware in 2012 but was sacked. Same goes for LVG at United a few years later. So all this tub-thumping about winning silverware means very little in the grand scheme of things, & that grand scheme means doing well in the league, plus a good run in the CL would also help a manager keep his job, & possibly keep the fans off his back for a while. So if Jose wins a domestic trophy this year but falters in the league, how would the natives react to that ? But more importantly, how would those in higher office feel about it ?
oh dear I remember reading the bankruptcy thing. Figured someone would eventually articulate that to him and low and beholdLike watching Mike Tyson KO Trevor Berbick this.
So you'd settle for a League Cup trophy over a top 4 finish, or even better, a title-challenge ?
Oh of course, that'd be the same for every team on the planet though. TBH, I do not see a single team right now whom I'd strongly favour against you lot in a 2 matches knockout round IF none of your star players (Salah and maybe VVD) gets injured. Madrid lost Ronaldo, Barca have looked inconsistent and unconvincing in the CL after MSN, Juve/PSG are big question marks, we struggle to replace our two best players in recent years and City, well we know how it ended last year.
Beating City and Porto 5-0 and 5-1 was a fluke?
Recording the most goals in the competition and the most goals in a semi final first leg was a fluke?
We didn't have the most amazing squad last year but we got a lot out of them especially the first team.
That analogy may not always work -- ask women. I think they rationalise it and accept that the foreplay is the fun part since they dont always get to 'win.'
I’m seriously worried about these guys this season. They’ve been slowly building a strong team under Klopp, buying well and playing some impressive stuff too. They didn’t fluke their way to the CL final either last season, they deserved their place there.
They now look ready to mount a serious challenge for the title, more than we do
I’m half hoping City don’t do their usual bottle job of defending a league title because the scum look best placed to catch them.
There I’ve said it. Now feck the scousers into oblivion, may they never win the league ever again
I thought when Ferguson retired that there would never be another dominant team in the PL. Looks like I was wrong. I can see City - under Pep - winning many league titles for many years to come
Women also tell you size doesn't matter. & then they swan off with their mates to watch strippers with 12 inch dicks.
I thought when Ferguson retired that there would never be another dominant team in the PL. Looks like I was wrong. I can see City - under Pep - winning many league titles for many years to come
Not sure he’ll stick around that long, he hasn’t at other clubs, even his beloved Barca.
If he wins the Champions League with City (god forbid) he may feel job done and look to other challenges.
Anyway, this is a bit off topic. Back to hating Liverpool y’all!!
It was more about the number of appalling referee mistakes that went your way than the draw. That Salah goal at Enfield was offside if I'm not mistaken, and there was another ruling out Jesus's goal at Etihad in the return tie, which was baffling. I think there were some ridiculous mistakes vc Roma also, but can't bother to refresh my memory.
Of course you may deny this and we are all biased, but Liverpool fans are a bunch that moans about referee decisions all the time in that Cl run, you had lots going your way if anything.
EDIT: Re: our Europa League win, we won the thing at the end, you embarrassed yourself.
Liverpool today are where Man City were in Aug 2017. They like Man City have used the transfer window primarily to address the key most weakness. Man City had spend on FBs, and Goalie last year. So if Man City can improve drastically from disappointing 3rd to record champions in just one season, LFC can as well. It's foolish to analyze things based on previous season. Thus, even City can struggle this new season.
Ultimately, to win titles, you need 2-3 of your players to have their best season. It's the form of individual players that defines a team's season success.
Ultimately, to win titles, you need 2-3 of your players to have their best season. It's the form of individual players that defines a team's season success.
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That means nothing, history is meant to be broken. A more difficult trophy to repeat in the CL has been done by Real Madrid when no one thought it was possible in the modern era.
Don't get me wrong, they have built up an impressive squad and play good football but no way are they currently better than City in the league, never mind clearly better
Calm down mate. We all know there's reasons. Why are you trying to use them as a counter argument for something no one is arguing?
As for your first point, they're clearly over the line in one direction.
It's obviously going to be a similar, although surely less extreme trend over the season. We all knew that already, and this is just showing it.
Let's hope so or I fear it will send Fergie into another stroke.
Every team here. Remove the space. It's trying to automatically load some gallery that doesn't work instead of hyperlinking
https://imgur. com/a/K8bZgqy
This isn't something you should joke about IMHO
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!
Thanks. Didn't realise that about the bankruptcy. How interesting.
Anyway my point was Dortmund are and were a big team. Klopp may have taken over in unsettled times but the argument one person was making was he's never had the opportunity to manage a footballing heavyweight. I would say he has
Said something to show for, didn't mention trophies. Tbh never seen a challenge as a goal as how do you measure it? Everyone's challenging aren't they? Sorry for me getting into CL, last rounds of the cup and still having a chance of winning the league after Christmas is the given not a challenge....
Thanks, nice to see. Also worth nothing that West Ham have the fewest players in the opposing half (2) alongside Man Utd. I would hope/expect to see something like Spurs/City formation for us in the future against better teams, with Fabinho in our own half between the CBs and at least one fullback a little more conservative as well.
Too funny, and they only say size doesn't matter to men with small 'dicks....
That’s not true, my partners are always saying that to me!
Klopp has done an excellent job with them. It's pretty painful how well they have recruited since he joined in comparison to the teams around them which has also allowed them to get into a title competing spot. Every season since he has been in charge they've arguably made one world class or very very good signing which has elevated them a little more. They don't really have a laughable bench anymore either.
Or it fits just nicely. Snug
Irritating that they play good football with players like Milner and Wijnaldum in midfield, or a couple of kids like Alexander-Arnold and Gomez in defence. Not saying they're bad players, mind, just not great by any means. Propped up by a working system that gets the very best out of them. It makes a complete mockery of the claims that United (or Mourinho) can't play good football with the existing players in the squad - without spending millions more on multi-million quid stars. Or, more hilariously, that the likes of Pogba, or Matic, or Sanchez, aren't good enough.
And no, I won't go and support Liverpool. I'd just prefer it if our incredibly talented squad of players could play a little more like them.
And no, I won't go and support Liverpool. I'd just prefer it if our incredibly talented squad of players could play a little more like them.
So you base how good a manager is on attractive, exciting and trophy-less football - to each his own.
They should be challenging this year.
I use Challenge loosely as I think City will win it and if Liverpool run them all the way but still lose it will not be a negative.
Need to win some sort of silverware though really, City are a juggernaut over a season but on there day Liverpool are immense and they should feel disappointed if they fail in all cup competitions this year also.
I use Challenge loosely as I think City will win it and if Liverpool run them all the way but still lose it will not be a negative.
Need to win some sort of silverware though really, City are a juggernaut over a season but on there day Liverpool are immense and they should feel disappointed if they fail in all cup competitions this year also.
Almost everybody is saying that Sanchez is good enough but needs to play better. Almost nobody is saying that Pogba or Matic aren’t good enough.
Anyway, our equivalents to Milner et al would be Hererra, Rashford and McTominay and we are capable of playing well with them in the team, just not consistently. Milner’s a massively under-rated player btw. Would be a great addition to any squad.
Is this a joke? We embarrassed ourselves by losing to Real Madrid in the final of the CL while you lot were out played by Sevilla in the round of 16? Sounds a little rich...
Im happy to accept we benefitted from some luck in probably all competitions we played in. Of course, this was only us, and no other team, including yours, benefitted from refereeing decisions or some other form of good fortune last year, which is, I’m sure, the reason you feel the need to bring this to our attention.
He's a wum does similar stuff on the Chelsea board, pretty idiotic.
Argues for the sake of arguing.
He's also on a Chelsea board while he's giving it large to oppo fans on here for being "guests on our forum"? FFS
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