Poor Liverpool, I almost feel bad for them, almost.
Liverpool 2018/19
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It was.
So what's your answers?
Assuming both Chelsea and Utd buy wisely this summer, and Salah and the other Pool stars remain:
1.City
2./3./4. Random: Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool
It will be. BHA are fecking awful, and Liverpool will struggle themselves against Wolves.
What in the world suggests that United would immediately close this huge existing gap in one summer? You severely underestimate how far you’re behind, and disregard that Liverpool could also “buy well” this summer. You need far more than a few new shiny signings.
I'd agree with that - Utd are going to struggle to get into the top 6 the way things are going.
I am convinced some people are just living in the alternate universe. We will be nowhere near Liverpool next season, we would do well to ensure TOP 4 with a few games til the end of the season left.
Actually feel a tiny bit bad for Liverpool. Hard to see Liverpool competing for the title next season. They aren't on the same level as City despite what the league table says. Their squad depth isn't near the same level and it won't be next season either. The stars have aligned this season in my opinion to give them every help to keep pace. Lack of injuries to their front 3 (bar this last week or two), incredibly favourable referee decisions combined with an abnormal amount of goalkeeping errors in their favour (with a lot being very late on). Whilst everyone has lucky decisions and the big teams obviously get more than most, there really has been so many in Pool's favour that have impacted on games. Mentally they'll struggle to recover for next season as well if they don't win. Superb effort from them to amass so much points and yet achieve nothing, assuming City beat Brighton. Will be hard to motivate themselves and get over it for next season. I think City will win the league next season by a comfortable distance, think Pool will be part of the chasing pack with Spurs and probably 1 other out of Chelsea and Arsenal.
We ain't going to win any titles this year, I made peace with that.
So i just want to win the last two games, and see Ox and Brewster play well.
We need to find some decent backups for our front three in summer, and then we go again.
When the season started everybody expected us to challenge, pointing at the spending we had. And so we did.
Massive summer ahead for EPL. We'll see who gets picked out by RM and others, but it's more likely to be Hazard, Eriksen and Pogba than Mane or Salah.
So i just want to win the last two games, and see Ox and Brewster play well.
We need to find some decent backups for our front three in summer, and then we go again.
When the season started everybody expected us to challenge, pointing at the spending we had. And so we did.
Massive summer ahead for EPL. We'll see who gets picked out by RM and others, but it's more likely to be Hazard, Eriksen and Pogba than Mane or Salah.
You don't think so?
Christ I don't.
You want to bet on it?
I still feel nervous and that everyone is laughing slightly prematurely
It's like the red wedding.
What fecking gap? I was talking about Top4, not PL contenders. Look at the current standings again and the points.
To say that Utd. will struggle to finish Top4 next season is just wishful thinking by the dippers and the spuds (oh God, I hope they finish 5th).
I don’t think you’ll fail to make it, but going by the comments yesterday, Leicester seems to have a better overall starting XI than you do even according to your own fans...
I didn’t say that but okay then. And look at the league table if you want to know what gap I was talking about. “Oh but we got gifted 15 points minimum”, fine if that’s your explanation.
Still convinced Liverpool will win this
But they don't lose football matches. Why, unless they lose their best players, do you think they will be any worse than this season?
Of course, redcafe is not the definition of knee jerk, one month we had team as good as any and another month our players struggle to start even for relegation struggling teams.
Same. Everyone is laughing prematurely. I can see those Brighton cnuts looking to spoil St. Pep's party because BANTER INNIT, WE INBREDS feckED UP THE TITLE RACE. HAHAHA LET'S GO GET DRUNK.
I fecking hate Brighton
And the truth is somewhere in the middle probably. Truth is, imo you need the biggest squad overhaul of any of the top 4 contenders of this season. And I’ve yet to see factual based arguments that this will happen in one summer other than blind hope/faith and “the fact that you’re United”.
I could be wrong obviously, and like I said I can’t see you finishing outside the top 6, but top 4 is hardly a given right now.
No because the last time I made a bet here I won and the guy never paid out!
Lets involve mods then. Pay up or gets banned permanently.
Look at my first post. There's no "gap" between Utd and the 4th spot.
It's same with Chelesa and Arsenal too. Chelsea dont have a CF and Hazard is leaving. Their attack is very average.
Arsenal - Ramsey is leaving and they still have Iwobi, Mkhi playing for them
ManUtd - same as above. We need additions.
After such a shit start, there isn't much points gap between the teams and this is with the team with poorest fitness record in the league.
Also don't think you really understand what factual based argument is. That's not something one can make when predicting future in football. It's something you make to argue past incident.
City won the league last season is a factual statement. City will again win the league next season (as much favorites as they are) is prediction, not factual statement/argument.
Of course we need big overhaul but no more than Chelsea, Arsenal and in the last 3 months Spurs have looked as awful too. For next season top 2 is out of reach but the other 4 teams are close in shitness.
I've literally said why I think they will do worse. Their points total is far above their ability/deserved points. It'll balance out next season, especially with the introduction of VAR.
Of course you can make them. It'll still be predictions but they're based on facts rather than blind faith. "We will be better next season because we have just bought Bruno Fernandes" would be one for example, it's an argument based on a fact, if it were true.
And I disagree about squad strength, still think Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs have a better one than you do.
People always assume that the previous seasons standings will be the same again or similar. We actually finished 6 pts ahead of Liverpool last season and nobody could’ve foreseen their form this season. When Chelsea had their little spell of dominance, if you could call it that, they were routinely expected to win the title every year. They never won back to backs with the same regularity that United did (who did?) and never won 3 in a row. Even the bookies, are so predictable with their pre$season betting odds but they rarely get it all more than half right. I admit, I say this without a great deal of conviction but if we got rid of just 3 or 4 shit players/bad apples and signed just two or three effective, good players, a couple of youth breaking into the squad along with a decent pre-season, it could make a huge improvement. Admittedly, a few planets need aligning there but not beyond the realms.
How is that a fact and blind faith if Manutd fans say we will be better because we will sign players? Both are not facts, it's just assumptions. So many better players failed to step up and make the mark when they moved clubs. So yeah, City fans saying they will be better because they signed Bruno Fernandez is also not factual statement. There is nothing factual about making predictions in football, everything is based on assumptions and blind faith.
Well agree to disagree about the squads.
Yeah its a bit annoying especially as it was for £100!
Their points total is linked directly to their ability compared to the opposition they've played. All discussion of what's "deserved" is tendentious piffle. Liverpool are a better team than everyone apart from City, who have lost more games and are notably struggling more to get the goals during the run in. The luck/referee good fortune is exaggerated and the late winners are what Utd specialised in for years and years when we were out and out champs. I'd love to see them fall off a cliff next season but doubt it'll happen.
You really dislike Tottenham don't you? The season isn't even over yet, we don't know who's bought who, who's promoted who and people are already proclaiming their top 4 for next season? Really?
No guarantee to get top 4, of course. But struggle to "get top 6"... FFS.
It's so true. City think the job is done and then Kompany will have a Gerrard-esque slip.
Barcelona, having had no sleep because of the fireworks will crash out 5-0 tonight.
Liverpool will be CL and PL champs by end of May.
Agreed; Brighton denying Arsenal at the Emirates despite all that pressure from them at the end as desperately needed the win for the top four battle makes me very nervous - if it was at the Etihad then that would be one thing, but being at the Amex could be key.
Ole has said we are not guaranteed to be in the top 6 next year. The same can also be said for Arsenal & Chelsea (if they lose Hazard) The standard of the 3 of us is extremely poor.
These will win feck all
Deserved is actually pretty important long term. A season is a decent sample of games, it's very possible to play above your true level for a season and get a fortunate points total. They won't fall off a cliff but they will end up with around 80-85 points. Pretty confident City will win the league by 10+ points.
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