Liverpool 2018/19

By how many points will Liverpool win the title this season?

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Was arguing with a bloke on the Luke Shaw thread when he said he was every bit as good as Robertson. Nuts.
He would be with the right tactics. He’s a better defender than Robertson and quicker.
Thing is the way Pool play is suited to his skills. They cover back on the left side, We don’t ! Their midfield works harder to win the ball back, ours doesn’t. If and when he’s exposed, they have VVD in the centre, we have.... sorry I’m getting quite depressed now
 
The amount of arse-twitching in here after they beat a pub team is embarrassing. Did any of you truly expect anything different tonight? It doesn’t change a damn thing in the bigger picture: Guardiola and his men will be targeting three wins to secure the title and Liverpool can win their three games 5-0 each and it won’t matter a jot.

Have some faith.
It’s like having faith in someone having an affair with your wife
 
All season I've been saying this team is fecking good. I am hoping city can still win the league, but one thing is for sure. Klopp and Liverpool are not going nowhere. This team is here to dominate for next 3 or 4 years. And when I say dominate, I don't mean win a few second rate cups, I mean the the PL and CL.
Makes me cringe we fecked up, not only on Pep, but that clown Klopp too. Well done Utd!
I've seen you panic like this before. Sure they're a great team but I dont think they'll dominate, let alone both in PL and CL. I mean, it's not that other clubs will just sit there and do nothing, both in England and in Europe. And who knows maybe Madrid will come calling for Salah. Although seeing how they dealt with losing Coutinho they wont have any problems.
 
Everybody recognises that Manchester United have been completely and utterly inept with their spending. Even then you finished 2nd last season (just like liverpool will now) and have two trophies in the bag since your spending (compared to zero under Klopp thus far) so this idea that Klopp has been an absolute genius with his spending is ridiculous. He broke records to sign a keeper and a defender, he spent well over 100 million on midfield reinforcements.

Klopp is an excellent manager, but Liverpool kicked on from last season because they spent huge sums of money on the team, which 90% of the time leads to massive improvements.
In fairness, liverpool were able to spend like they did for Allison and VVD b/c they sold Coutinho, who at that time was considered their best player. Even having the money from the sale doesn't mean much. See Bale, Gareth.
 
In fairness, liverpool were able to spend like they did for Allison and VVD b/c they sold Coutinho, who at that time was considered their best player. Even having the money from the sale doesn't mean much. See Bale, Gareth.

They signed well, but if you spend 160 million you should improve significantly.

We fecked up the Bale money and spent it (mostly) on shit, that was our bad.
 
Absolutely. What he did with Dortmund was amazing and now he's turned Liverpool who's been shit for what feels like eternity into one of the best sides in Europe. He deserves much credit even if most of us hate him.

But if you read Squishy's points, Klopp just went out and spent £166m or something. That is all your honour. Poor guy, he's in pain. Can't say I'm not enjoying it. :cool:
 
But if you read Squishy's points, Klopp just went out and spent £166m or something. That is all your honour. Poor guy, he's in pain. Can't say I'm not enjoying it. :cool:


Why would I be? You haven't actually won anything :lol:.

I never said that 'all' Klopp did was spend money, but you acted as if your improvement after last season is unprecedented. You were second favourites when the season started for the league due to your spending, and you are .. second.
 
They signed well, but if you spend 160 million you should improve significantly.

We fecked up the Bale money and spent it (mostly) on shit, that was our bad.
Regardless, I don't think anyone thought they would be this good and a lot of that is down to coaching and getting transfers right.

Honestly, what transfer have they missed on recently?
 
City have proven two seasons running that they're of the quality to hit 90+ points. I have no doubts that next season will any different.
Liverpool have done something incredible this season, however, I see nothing to suggest that a squad with inferior quality to City will replicate this seasons form going into the next to the degree in which they have this season. What they're doing with this squad is unsustainable. We all know it.
 
I might get a lot of hate for this, but I think we deserve to see Liverpool win the league. All the years of pissing about under Woodward with shit players and managers and we’ve collectively said very little. Blamed manager after manager while giving shit players and dog shit Woodward a free pass. The is the deserved punishment for 6/7 years of not demanding more.

Might even have had something to say about Liverpool winning the league if Ed had backed Jose this year and the players weren’t a bunch bitchy little brats.

I look forward to your letters.
 
I might get a lot of hate for this, but I think we deserve to see Liverpool win the league. All the years of pissing about under Woodward with shit players and managers and we’ve collectively said very little. Blamed manager after manager while giving shit players and dog shit Woodward a free pass. The is the deserved punishment for 6/7 years of not demanding more.

Might even have had something to say about Liverpool winning the league if Ed had backed Jose this year and the players weren’t a bunch bitchy little brats.

I look forward to your letters.
Ridiculous.
 
I might get a lot of hate for this, but I think we deserve to see Liverpool win the league. All the years of pissing about under Woodward with shit players and managers and we’ve collectively said very little. Blamed manager after manager while giving shit players and dog shit Woodward a free pass. The is the deserved punishment for 6/7 years of not demanding more.

Might even have had something to say about Liverpool winning the league if Ed had backed Jose this year and the players weren’t a bunch bitchy little brats.

I look forward to your letters.
Why do you think an investment banker who probably grew up supporting Charlton or West Ham and who doesn't understand the culture of the club would care if Liverpool won the Premier League?
 
He would be with the right tactics. He’s a better defender than Robertson and quicker.
Thing is the way Pool play is suited to his skills. They cover back on the left side, We don’t ! Their midfield works harder to win the ball back, ours doesn’t. If and when he’s exposed, they have VVD in the centre, we have.... sorry I’m getting quite depressed now

He'd be better under Klopp no doubt but he is not a patch on Robertson. Robertson has an excellent delivery, Shaw is not even average in that respect.
 
Why do you think an investment banker who probably grew up supporting Charlton or West Ham and who doesn't understand the culture of the club would care if Liverpool won the Premier League?

I don’t. What I don’t understand is that when the manager makes a mistake, he needs to go, but when woody makes a mistake no one cares. Here we are again, people blaming ole. So yeah, 6/7 years of being Fanny’s we deserve to watch Liverpool win the league. People keep talking bout us being the new Liverpool, which means they know the signs. They can see them coming yet still it’s all down to the manger. No matter who that manager is and no matter how many other things don’t change. It’s the manager. So yeah, I hope they win it. And hope it wakes people up to the utter joke Woodward has turned us into.
 
He'd be better under Klopp no doubt but he is not a patch on Robertson. Robertson has an excellent delivery, Shaw is not even average in that respect.
Klopp wouldn’t even have him. He’s knackered after 50 minutes every game. Can’t cross for shit and is positionally awful.

Luke Shaw is a myth player and the fact that some people think this left back who has 5 assists in 5 seasons is “quality”, let alone better than Andy Robertson is fecking laughable.
 
I don’t. What I don’t understand is that when the manager makes a mistake, he needs to go, but when woody makes a mistake no one cares. Here we are again, people blaming ole. So yeah, 6/7 years of being Fanny’s we deserve to watch Liverpool win the league. People keep talking bout us being the new Liverpool, which means they know the signs. They can see them coming yet still it’s all down to the manger. No matter who that manager is and no matter how many other things don’t change. It’s the manager. So yeah, I hope they win it. And hope it wakes people up to the utter joke Woodward has turned us into.
I agree insofar as I think there's a lot of misdirected angst at Solskjaer, but I also think people are fed up with Woodward, and I definitely agree that we have some (many) shit fans.

But under no circumstance do I want to see Liverpool win the Premier League. To be fair, neither does anyone else in England.
 
City have proven two seasons running that they're of the quality to hit 90+ points. I have no doubts that next season will any different.
Liverpool have done something incredible this season, however, I see nothing to suggest that a squad with inferior quality to City will replicate this seasons form going into the next to the degree in which they have this season. What they're doing with this squad is unsustainable. We all know it.

Next season's going to be an interesting one.

As you say, City seemingly have a machine capable of putting 90+ points on the board season after season, which should be a comfortable league winning margin. The closest a team has come to 90 points and not won the league was us in 2012 when we lost it on goal difference with 89 points. Should City stutter, and Liverpool win the league, it'll be interesting to see how their squad reacts in the new season. The illusion may have been shattered, and they could all still be scratching their heads wondering what happened. After all, I doubt they planned to still be in a title fight at this point of the season. It was probably supposed to have been all wrapped up a few games ago.

Liverpool may face a similar problem should they not win it, but with much more historical weight to compound it. Having gone so long without a title, to potentially record the third highest points total of any Premier League side from any season ever, only losing one game across the whole season, and still not win the league could be catastrophically demoralising. To fight so hard all season and end up empty handed could be a killer for morale.

I think there's also the potential for at least a temporary Liverpool drop-off next season even if they win it. The long wait will finally be over, and there might be an element of "mission complete" as they head into the new season. I think City suffered from that in 2012/13, after winning it in such dramatic fashion the season before, winning just two of their opening five fixtures that year.

Of course I could be way off, and if City lose it they'll just put 96 points on the board next year anyway, and whatever happens with Liverpool, having shown such remarkable resiliency and an almost inhuman ability to keep their key players fit, they may well do the same, regardless of whether they head into next season as champions or arguably the most unfortunate runners up ever.
 
I agree insofar as I think there's a lot of misdirected angst at Solskjaer, but I also think people are fed up with Woodward, and I definitely agree that we have some (many) shit fans.

But under no circumstance do I want to see Liverpool win the Premier League. To be fair, neither does anyone else in England.

Want my be a strong word, need might be another. We need something to wake us up the fact it’s been 6/7 years and we’re still fannying about. What’s better motivation to stop fanny about to than have to listen to worst winners in the universe banging on about winning something? They won the CL in 2005, next thing you know we have a god like team and we are regulars in the final for 3 out 4 years and wing in 08. Yes, it will suck. But we need to take our medicine so we cans get better.
 
City have proven two seasons running that they're of the quality to hit 90+ points. I have no doubts that next season will any different.
Liverpool have done something incredible this season, however, I see nothing to suggest that a squad with inferior quality to City will replicate this seasons form going into the next to the degree in which they have this season. What they're doing with this squad is unsustainable. We all know it.
Liverpool would've probably had 10+ points less with VAR.
 
Well they haven't even won one second rate cup yet so steady on

No one knows what kind of an impact a 97 point season but no title would have on Liverpool, that plus they'd need the same amount of luck as this season and VVD to replicate his quite frankly insane form
It's not form, he actually is that good.

Unfortunately Liverpool are here to stay.
 
is this title race better then 2011/12? I mean it still is too early to decide but it really is given it a run for its money.
 
I'm expecting a mini Dortmund 2014-15 collapse next season. Their spirit and fight this season has been huge. If they dont win it this year, do they have it in them to find that extra bit of motivation to drive them on to do better than this?
 
is this title race better then 2011/12? I mean it still is too early to decide but it really is given it a run for its money.
That year loved over with about 5 games left. United totally fecking it up let them back in. This is walking a tight rope. One tiny mistake and you've lost the league this year. We should have beat Wigan and Everton before it got close to the final day.
 
That year loved over with about 5 games left. United totally fecking it up let them back in. This is walking a tight rope. One tiny mistake and you've lost the league this year. We should have beat Wigan and Everton before it got close to the final day.
It is inane how both teams might get over 95 points and still not win the league.
 
I'm expecting a mini Dortmund 2014-15 collapse next season. Their spirit and fight this season has been huge. If they dont win it this year, do they have it in them to find that extra bit of motivation to drive them on to do better than this?
Nope. If they lose this year and lose the CL final again (if they get there) then they will be as deflated as a balloon.
 
If they don't win it this year, I actually don't think they ever will. And remember, even if they do, at least it won't be Gerrard or Carragher lifting the trophy. It'll be Jordan bloody Henderson that will be the Liverpool player remembered for generations!!
 
This could still end badly for us but imagine having your greatest team in 30 years and ending up trophyless like your rivals at their lowest abyss. I'll be laughing through the summer.
 
Many underestimate the sense of being feared and respected. The positivity, the energy that flows with it. Its addictive, they call it the hunger, the winning mentality. Liverpool having it in scoops for past few years, and they will only go strength to strength regardless of what happens this season. Their resolve can be seen on the pitch. Their transformation is phenomenal. Fair play.

Its just unfortunate fate that our prolonged blip coincide with their rise.

Question is when can we step up to them?
 
liverpool don't look too bothered by by that untied loss to city. the league's not over yet, plus liverpool are still in the cl
 
I don't see Liverpool dropping points to either Newcastle or Wolves. I really hope City can win their final three games, none of which are going to be easy. At Burnley is a tough fixture. One they should win, yes. But it is still tough.

Vs Leicester should be a win for them, but again it is not easy. Rodgers has them playing well and they have some class players.

At Brighton should be easy enough, but it is not impossible that Brighton will be fighting for their EPL lives on the last day of the season. That will make it that much harder for them.

I really hope City do it, but it will be hard for them IMO.
 
I've seen you panic like this before. Sure they're a great team but I dont think they'll dominate, let alone both in PL and CL. I mean, it's not that other clubs will just sit there and do nothing, both in England and in Europe. And who knows maybe Madrid will come calling for Salah. Although seeing how they dealt with losing Coutinho they wont have any problems.

Sure other clubs wont sit back but neither will liverpool. They are about to reach 97 points, with a half decent midfield. Keita was suppose to be their marquee signing of the summer, who was nothing but unimpressive till lately. He is coming in his own. Fabinho also took half a season to get settled. Imagine Keita, Fabinho, Oxlade with another pre season under their belt + 1 or 2 more midfielder(s) + another centreback and maybe another forward. Suddenly their team has as much depth as City.

They can easily afford atleast 4 major signings without going broke. I mean they have players they can offload maybe not for crazy sums but still they will bring in money and so will the champions league run in. Even if they dont win it. Last year it brought them 90+ extra millions.

I think with this season's CL and PL run in, Liverpool will have second biggest transfer kitty in premier league and they are in position where they dont have to sell any of their star players and with Klopp at helm, we can fully expect him to get every single penny's worth out of that fund.
 
Pool's season ended after the Utd 0-2 City and the draw vs Barça, but they can't admit it. Poor sods.
Season isn't over yet, and one thing with Liverpool team is they don't give up. Klopp has built a resilience into the side that wasn't there before. I said before a ball was kicked this season that Liverpool would win the title, and they are still on course to do just that. Man City have shown they are more prone to cave in than Liverpool have this year, having lost more games, and I expect them to slip up again now the pressure is really on.

What I didn't except was Liverpool to win the CL too, but I am quietly fancying our chances now. I wouldn't write this team off against Barcelona.
 
It's not form, he actually is that good.

Unfortunately Liverpool are here to stay.

Nah he was never this good at Southampton, and don't say he's playing with better players now because without him that Liverpool back 4 falls apart
 
Salah has scored 69 goals in 100 matches for Liverpool - 10 less than RVN did in his first 100 games.
 
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