Liverpool 2018/19

By how many points will Liverpool win the title this season?

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As far as I’m aware they are still chasing in this title race? Why do the media and them react with every game as if it’s a step closer and they’re ticking off another huge win towards the title? Martin Tyler literally said “another huge milestone passer towards a potential title, their 19th English football championship”. It really just means there’s less games to make a difference when another team has it in their hands.

The best scenario, which is extremely possible, would be for them and City to win all their remaining games and Liverpool to be sat there on 97 points with no matches left like ‘oh’.

In all honestly they’re incredibly unlucky City are so good as any other year this is a title year. They’ve been practically unbeatable this season.

Just out of curiosity, if Pool do end up with more than 95 points, would people consider them better than Joses first season Chelsea?
 
Just out of curiosity, if Pool do end up with more than 95 points, would people consider them better than Joses first season Chelsea?

Unless we do the double, then no.

Regardless of what Chelsea spent, they still did the double while setting a record points total in the league in Mourinho's very first season with the club. However you look at it, that's a spectacular feat. Pep managed 3rd in his first season.
 
Oh, I saw your username and thought it was @Ban posting that for some reason.

I'll leave you to it, feeling and that picture and whatnot.

Honest mistake, I’m sure he’s the same. You’d have to be a monster not to get a little emotional looking at that.
 
All I can say is, Hazard is a complete waster and no “world class” player would miss those absolute sitters he missed today.

Hope his dream move to Madrid falls through after that. Plonker.
 
Livepool look more likely to possibly win the big 2 than than City right now. They've got a much easier set of fixtures in the PL after beating Chelsea and Spurs, and have virtually made the CL semis while City have a task on their hands against Spurs.
 
We could have a situation where Liverpool win the league and still not be considered a better side than City. Can't see Liverpool dropping any more points till the end of the season, I think City will drop points somewhere. Could them getting 95 points without their best player (De Bruyne) for large chunks be as good as 100 with him?

Well even worse scenario is, Man City ending up from quadruple contenders to domestic mickey mouse cup winning team within less than a week. Best english side to not win either of the major title, titles which matter.

I think Ole will play his strongest team against Everton (a) on the Sunday and Chelsea (h) the following Sunday. He will use the City game between these two games to rotate his team. Obviously he won't send his team to lose against City, so by Rotating the team, he can't have people accuse him of throwing the match.
So I can see Young, Rojo, Perrira , Bailey, Matic, mata, Lingard starting against City.
At the end of the day, the Chelsea game is a bigger game than the City game, for finishing in the Top 4.

Four points seperate 4 teams between 3rd and 6th. You dont really have the luxury of throwing away the match unless you planning to play in Europa League.


As far as I’m aware they are still chasing in this title race? Why do the media and them react with every game as if it’s a step closer and they’re ticking off another huge win towards the title? Martin Tyler literally said “another huge milestone passer towards a potential title, their 19th English football championship”. It really just means there’s less games to make a difference when another team has it in their hands.

The best scenario, which is extremely possible, would be for them and City to win all their remaining games and Liverpool to be sat there on 97 points with no matches left like ‘oh’.

In all honestly they’re incredibly unlucky City are so good as any other year this is a title year. They’ve been practically unbeatable this season.

In the same way Man City may win "pontential" quadruple. "Potential" being key word here.

Because City have both Spurs and United to play and Liverpool's remaining 4 games are built up of 3 cannon fodder and 1 semi hard game at home to Wolves.

You also mention the're unlucky City are so good, I think the reverse applies when it comes to luck. City are very unlucky to be behind Liverpool, simply because the luck Liverpool have had over the course of the season has never been seen before, it's literally a joke. Not to mention they haven't even been that good, they're worse attackingly than last year and their midfield is bang average. Doesn't make sense, really.

Either way whoever finishes second will be kicking themselves. Assuming both teams win most of their remaining games, the team finishing second could still have amassed 95+ points. That's almost as cruel as us losing a title on fecking goal difference.

Actually it makes lot of sense if you try to look at the stats which shows how they manage to give city, run for their money. Instead of trying to find things which proves your point.

Man City and Liverpool have Goal difference of 64 and 57 respectively. Apart from City ofcourse, only two teams have scored more goals (total) than City's GD. In Liverpool's Case its 4 teams apart from them ofcourse. Even unimpressive Liverpool attack has scored just 9 goals less than Rampant City. Man City and Liverpool has 16 and 18 clean sheets respectively.

I get as Liverpool's traditional arch rivals, you dont entertain the idea of them winning the league but if you look at those stats, it makes absolute sense to see both teams up there challenging and trading punches.
 
Livepool look more likely to possibly win the big 2 than than City right now. They've got a much easier set of fixtures in the PL after beating Chelsea and Spurs, and have virtually made the CL semis while City have a task on their hands against Spurs.
I wonder how @SquishyMcSquish would feel if Spurs facilitated a Liverpool double by beating City in the CL and league...
 
The only silver lining would be if city fecked up CL too and the greatest team in history won a league Cup and fa Cup double.

Imagine the day pool win it. All the ex players there, the media meltdown. Would be hard to stomach but a good dose of guardiola meltdown would soften the blow
 
As far as I’m aware they are still chasing in this title race? Why do the media and them react with every game as if it’s a step closer and they’re ticking off another huge win towards the title? Martin Tyler literally said “another huge milestone passer towards a potential title, their 19th English football championship”. It really just means there’s less games to make a difference when another team has it in their hands.

The best scenario, which is extremely possible, would be for them and City to win all their remaining games and Liverpool to be sat there on 97 points with no matches left like ‘oh’.

In all honestly they’re incredibly unlucky City are so good as any other year this is a title year. They’ve been practically unbeatable this season.

Liverpool are so far ahead of us at the moment it's not funny. Yes, they've had incredible luck this season, unbelievable at times but over the past 6/7 seasons they've spent well without breaking the bank (apart from Van Dijk).
Salah, Mane, Firmino all were bought relatively cheaply and their attack is way more potent than ours! Coutinho also was bought cheap and sold for a huge fee.
Robertson and TAA also cost next to nothing. They've put together a team that's really hard to beat for a lot less than we have.
They haven't even played that well for parts of this season but have kept winning.
Can see them pipping City to the title, they have 4 very winnable games. Think City will slip up, don't think it will be against us though.
Can't see us making top 4, not playing particularly well at the moment, our attack is too inconsistent.

Liverpool win the league and we miss top 4 is worst case scenario but I think that's whats going to happen sadly...
 
The only silver lining would be if city fecked up CL too and the greatest team in history won a league Cup and fa Cup double.

Imagine the day pool win it. All the ex players there, the media meltdown. Would be hard to stomach but a good dose of guardiola meltdown would soften the blow
What softens the blow for me is that I've already reconciled with them winning it. And really, if not this year they'll win it the next year. They've become an excellent football team. Pep can't win it every year. I mean he's still to prove he can win it back to back. The season they don't Liverpool will be champions whether it's this season or the next.
 
If City wind both vs Spurs and us it's theirs.
Yeah but those are not easy games. Margins are fine. Chelsea for example could have taken the lead Vs Livepool. They were good in the 1sr half. Plus we will be really up for the Manchester derby at home. Normally 4 points from those two games is a good return but could be a huge blow for them in the current scenarios.
 
Unless we do the double, then no.

Regardless of what Chelsea spent, they still did the double while setting a record points total in the league in Mourinho's very first season with the club. However you look at it, that's a spectacular feat. Pep managed 3rd in his first season.
The double of League Cup and Premier League though. Their league performance, especially their defence, was spectacular but framing it as some amazing Double is somewhat odd.
 
Going through the PL history books...only City 17/18 had more pts than this Liverpool team after 34 games (90 vs 85). Chelsea 05 and Chelsea 06 had 85 pts after 34 games too but worse GD. City have a game in hand though, they might be on 86 pts after their game with Spurs.
 
Yeah but those are not easy games. Margins are fine. Chelsea for example could have taken the lead Vs Livepool. They were good in the 1sr half. Plus we will be really up for the Manchester derby at home. Normally 4 points from those two games is a good return but could be a huge blow for them in the current scenarios.
Yup. A draw or a defeat in either of those games and its Liverpools title.
 
What softens the blow for me is that I've already reconciled with them winning it. And really, if not this year they'll win it the next year. They've become an excellent football team. Pep can't win it every year. I mean he's still to prove he can win it back to back. The season they don't Liverpool will be champions whether it's this season or the next.

If Liverpool don't win the title this season after getting 95-97 pts, they won't recover from that easily.

They are in this position because many things have gone their way - no (serious) injuries to key players (VVD, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Robertson, Alisson) and serious injuries to key players of their rivals, referee mistakes and several goalkeeping howlers.

Even if they get a bit better with new signigs they ain't winning 95 pts. You can't say the same about City who are on course to 90+ pts again without having KDB (in top form) and their only LB specialist in Mendy for most of the season. They will win close to 95 next season too, especially if they avoid a transfer ban and sign new players.

The PL is getting like La Liga from few seasons back when you had to win 90+ pts to stand a chance for the title.
 
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If they don't win it this season it will probably be next season as long as they hold on to their key players during the summer.

Not so sure. Everything has gone their way this season. Can't see them getting the same luck two years running.
 
Would be pretty funny if they dropped points vs Cardiff. Even better vs Newcastle. It won't happen but it would be funny. Rafa would probably score himself if he could.
 
I don't think there's much value in quoting the number of points accumulated. The financial doping of Man City has caused a ridiculous chasm to open up between the top 6 and everyone else. How often does a non top-6 side take points off the top 6, especially in home games, these days?

Even after the disaster of Jose's start to the season, we're going to get enough points to have won a title in some of SAF's seasons.
(If we win all our remaining games, we'll have matched the treble winning points tally)
 
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Watched Danny Murphy analyse Liverpool's win against Chelsea last night on MOTD.
The way Klopp changed his style in the first 15 mins of the second half was pure class.
It's like he told his players, 'right we have reserved our energy in the first half, now let's go and win the fecking game with our 15 minute high press blitz'.
I don't think I've seen a team as good as this Liverpool team when it comes to that high press style. Maybe Peps Barca in 2011.
In one clip Liverpool had 10 players in the space of a 20 yard area. Its unbelievable to see a team play like that.
 
No mention of what Fabinho did today?
The camera angle from the video going round is misleading. Watching live you can clearly see Fabinho does his snot-rocket next to the Chelsea player, which is why neither player nor physio reacts.
 
Besides, is there a rivalry between Spurs and Liverpool that I have missed?

There is no rivalry between Liverpool and Spurs other than a place in the top four. We've always enjoyed watching them since the days of Ossie, Waddle, etc. Coming close to winning things, but not actually crossing the line, made them more endearing. Same for Arsenal. Not Chelsea though.

Squishy seems to have invertible duvet covers to match his collection of half and half scarves. :p
 
Watched Danny Murphy analyse Liverpool's win against Chelsea last night on MOTD.
The way Klopp changed his style in the first 15 mins of the second half was pure class.
It's like he told his players, 'right we have reserved our energy in the first half, now let's go and win the fecking game with our 15 minute high press blitz'.
I don't think I've seen a team as good as this Liverpool team when it comes to that high press style. Maybe Peps Barca in 2011.
In one clip Liverpool had 10 players in the space of a 20 yard area. Its unbelievable to see a team play like that.

The downside to it being that they could not keep control of the game shortly after that and Hazard missed two glorious chances. Liverpool's pressing is impressive but if you have defensively robust players you can survive it. Jorgninho was at fault for both goals due to his slow reactions. Had Kante played his role, Liverpool wouldn't have scored those goals.
 
For the first time this season, I actually think Liverpool are going to do it now... :eek:

I expect them to 'slip up' once, but it'll just be a silly draw somewhere and it won't end up mattering too much. 95 Points and not winning the title would be absolute robbery to be fair to them. It would be enough to win every PL season except last season (Chelsea finished on 95 in 2005 but their final GD was +57, Liverpool's is that already so would be superior by default if they win three games and draw one). This of course requires City to drop points in two games but you can see it creeping in IMO, they're playing slower and don't look as impressive. It cost them against Spurs in the UCL so they're going to have to up the tempo for the next few games to get over the line. Of course, four wins and a defeat (at Old Trafford hopefully) would see City hit 95 as well but surely win it on GD if this were to be the outcome.

I just think nerves will get to one, if not both teams at some point and each is going to not win one of their remaining fixtures. It's only natural IMO and I wouldn't say either team bottled it if it comes about. If either Liverpool or City win out from here with maximum points, then their play to them they've had a worldie.
 
If they don't win it this season it will probably be next season as long as they hold on to their key players during the summer.

That's not how it works. Everyone improves in the summer, if you're not evolving you're regressing.
 
For the first time this season, I actually think Liverpool are going to do it now... :eek:

I expect them to 'slip up' once, but it'll just be a silly draw somewhere and it won't end up mattering too much. 95 Points and not winning the title would be absolute robbery to be fair to them. It would be enough to win every PL season except last season (Chelsea finished on 95 in 2005 but their final GD was +57, Liverpool's is that already so would be superior by default if they win three games and draw one). This of course requires City to drop points in two games but you can see it creeping in IMO, they're playing slower and don't look as impressive. It cost them against Spurs in the UCL so they're going to have to up the tempo for the next few games to get over the line. Of course, four wins and a defeat (at Old Trafford hopefully) would see City hit 95 as well but surely win it on GD if this were to be the outcome.

I just think nerves will get to one, if not both teams at some point and each is going to not win one of their remaining fixtures. It's only natural IMO and I wouldn't say either team bottled it if it comes about. If either Liverpool or City win out from here with maximum points, then their play to them they've had a worldie.

If nerves were going to get better of them, then it would have had least shown signs by now. They both look like they would win every single game until the end. The big game is the one at Old Trafford which is the only one City look like they can drop points in.
 
Watched Danny Murphy analyse Liverpool's win against Chelsea last night on MOTD.
The way Klopp changed his style in the first 15 mins of the second half was pure class.
It's like he told his players, 'right we have reserved our energy in the first half, now let's go and win the fecking game with our 15 minute high press blitz'.
I don't think I've seen a team as good as this Liverpool team when it comes to that high press style. Maybe Peps Barca in 2011.
In one clip Liverpool had 10 players in the space of a 20 yard area. Its unbelievable to see a team play like that.

It was because, according to Trent Alexander Arnold, Klopp switched to a 4-4-2 in the first part of the second half which caught Chelsea off guard.

He also asked at least Henderson, Keita and Firmino to all occupy the space between the lines to unsettle the defence. That's maybe why it looked like 10 players in space of a 20 yard area to you. The first goal came directly because of this.

I'm not sure why no one else focuses as much in this area when playing Chelsea. They look so uncomfortable when teams ask questions there. The Sturridge goal and most of the goals from City was because Klopp and Guardiola targeted this area.
 
Watched Danny Murphy analyse Liverpool's win against Chelsea last night on MOTD.
The way Klopp changed his style in the first 15 mins of the second half was pure class.
It's like he told his players, 'right we have reserved our energy in the first half, now let's go and win the fecking game with our 15 minute high press blitz'.
I don't think I've seen a team as good as this Liverpool team when it comes to that high press style. Maybe Peps Barca in 2011.
In one clip Liverpool had 10 players in the space of a 20 yard area. Its unbelievable to see a team play like that.
They do it very well when they choose to.

But Barcelona were a different animal. Their pressing combined with their retention of the ball was the most dominant combination I've seen in my time watching the sport. The way they were suffocate attacks within seconds made good players look poor.
 
I mean they'd still have to Barcelona and Juventus so that wouldn't the the reason. Besides, is there a rivalry between Spurs and Liverpool that I have missed?

Nope, no rivalry. Most Spurs fans I know who attend matches couldn't really care about Liverpool at all.

What I've noticed is that online, there seems to be a lot more angst between the fans, most of it coming from Spurs fans, I imagine partly because for 10 seasons we pretty much always finished above the and won the same (ie feck all) and every season, their media machine would kick into action and they'd be talked up as title winners.

I imagine squishy's opinion is probably for the same reason that most other 'neutral fans' have this opinion on this race. Liverpool fans are everywhere and are genuinely intolerable even when they've not been winning anything, I can only imagine what it will be like if they actuallu finally win it again. The same for the media, which I'm sure will be intolerable. Plus, I've genuinely never met a City fan in person and probably the same for a lot of fans in the South so frankly who cares if they win it?

However, I doubt there are any Spurs fans who care enough to give up top 4 for it and besides, there's a very good chance Man City will be beating us twice in a row this week anyway so it's all a bit moot.
 
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