Liverpool have had about 6 excellent performances all season and have been incredibly lucky in many of their games. They are very fortunate to have the points they have at this stage in the season.
Liverpool 2018/19
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You've scored virtually the same amount of league goals as last season. So the problem is not the attack. Maybe there is no problem at all and this is your normal level. Results wise, you were punching above your level in the first half of the season. Remember the shocking performance against Huddersfield of all teams? It was soon brushed under the carpet but you had several performances like that and were lucky to win all of them. When you are at your dynamic best, you are terrific indeed. But this is not sustainable without rotation and you've barely rotated the front 3 plus VVD and Robertson who somehow have managed to avoid any injuries so far.
Same with Spurs. The only team in the top 3 that fully justifies their points total is Man City.
We've made our own luck in a sense, just like you have - If you have a defensively sound team, you're more likely to snatch 3 points instead of 1. But yeah, there's absolutely no doubt that we've been very fortunate at times.
All teams rely on a bit of luck though I would argue that our performances have been at least as good as Liverpools throughout the season (i.e. quite average on the whole). City will win the league by 6 points minimum.
I think they'll win it as well, & the margin by which they'll do so by is dependent on how they do in Europe. We'll see what happens.
City have far superior players on nearly every position. For Liverpool to finish second would normally be quite an achievement but for them it'll feel like a huge loss. Probably taking any away any belief they can do it the coming seasons. All the talk about a 10 point gap at newyears and then losing it was the worst thing that could happen to them and the Klopp project in the longterm.
Points on the board & a decent run of games left, they haven't lost at home for over a year.
I'm not writing them off just yet. But we are calling them ''WobblyBottlePool'' in our house, just in case it helps at all,
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I'm not writing them off just yet. But we are calling them ''WobblyBottlePool'' in our house, just in case it helps at all,
.Watford at home is a game I'm usually quite confident about, even after our average performances lately. There's absolutely no excuse not to be winning tomorrow if we wanna have a shot at the title.
Quite wary of Everton away on the weekend though, it'd be typical Everton to actually live up to the occassion the one time we really need a win there
Apart from Mane's 97' winner in 2016 which wasn't really deserved from what I remember, we haven't won there in the league since 2011.Well this is what I was getting at that our attack isn’t indeed the problem
The problem for me is purely a lack of link up play in Midfield to the Attacking front 3.
They are doing their business when it comes to the attacking side of our game, but they aren’t being back by the midfield, the midfield haven’t stepped up in the final for me this season.
Defence - Fantastic
Midfield - Defensively fantastic, attacking wise poor
Forwards - fantastic
It’s the midfield relationship with our attack that is the only thing missing.
I agree the rotation of the front 3 is probably needed, I’d happily drop it a front 2 at times to bring in more creativity in the middle tbh
Watford at home is a game I'm usually quite confident about, even after our average performances lately. There's absolutely no excuse not to be winning tomorrow if we wanna have a shot at the title.
Quite wary of Everton away on the weekend though, it'd be typical Everton to actually live up to the occassion the one time we really need a win there
Everton will lose to you, 100%.
Their entire existence seems to be to provide laughter and joy for Liverpool, it's infuriating.
If Everton get ANYTHING against Liverpool I'll eat my cat.
So the table DOES lie?
Yeah and the lack of replacements is very worrying. With Origi and Sturridge both not looking great and Shakiri a bit out of favour for some reason you would wonder what can be done. If Ox Chamberlain can come back sooner it could help but he will be a long time getting back to a decent level.
How many games have we actually been lucky in where it's directly impacted the result? You make it sound like we should be mid table. We've deserved to win most of the games we've won this season, even if we've not been as good to watch.
I bet you hate dogs as well after reading your new thread in the general forum.
City will be without laporte and fernandinho. Losing fernandinho is a big bloew, the last 2 games they lost vs Lei and Palace he was injured.
Yeah, Fernandinho is a huge loss. Do we know how long he's out for? That's a big boost for Liverpool though, City don't really have a decent Fernandinho replacement.
The catch is that more creative midfielders might be worse defensively wise. It's difficult to find midfileders who can run as much as yours and are also creative going forward.
Pep has said 5 games each for both Laporte and Fernandinho. It's most likely bullshit and they'll be back within a couple games, defensively they are City's best players imo so it will be a miss regardless.
I think Klopp will be fine for now. He seems very committed to them and is being backed financially. Perhaps if they go big again in the summer and the board sell a Salah then some problems could emerge and he'll start to unravel. He's in the fourth year of his cycle. I think it will be another couple of seasons before he's vulnerable.
I think Mane will stay put. Not sure anyone bigger/better will go for him. Van Dijk is signed long term and I doubt any foreign club would pay what they'd want. I think Salah will be looking to move on next summer though if they don't win the league. I can see Real Madrid being in for him and breaking the bank.
I don't think they'll win anything this season but they'll be close in the league. I don't see them falling that far off next season either.
Got 2 spare tickets for Munich.
Looking to swap for 2 for Wolves.
Looking to swap for 2 for Wolves.
So Firmino is fine. Might be back tonight, if not then the derby game. Liverpool continue their impressive run of not losing any star players to injury. Salah & Van Dijk not missed a game. Mane, Firmino, Robertson barely missing any action in the league.
City on the other hand have had big players missing all season and are going deep in 4 competitions. Pool have to win it this year you feel.
City on the other hand have had big players missing all season and are going deep in 4 competitions. Pool have to win it this year you feel.
Ox, Gomez and TAA being injured has cost us points but yes on the whole the first team has been intact. We've also been on two soft-muscle regenerating warm weather 'holidays'. Two! In one season! Being out of cups early has two sides to it.
We may not have had injuries to star players, but we have been at bare bones at times this season. Having to play midfielders at CB and RB for example. Also, City have the luxury of replacing one €50+ million pound player for another in many positions. It's all swings and roundabouts really. Whoever wins the league at the end of the season will have deserved it. You need luck to win any competition, particularly one that takes place over 9 months with 38 games.
We do seem to be stalling at a really crucial time, and it could very well be to our detriment - I wouldn't be shocked if Watford got something tonight. Luckily our form in the first half of the season has meant that we could play this poorly and drop points, and if we win tonight, still be top going into the final 10 games of the season. Hopefully we can recapture our form from the first half of the season for those final 10 games and win the league. I would imagine there will be a lot of twists yet.
Just United... Please beat City
And yet we performed like crap after each one of those refreshing trips.
City's next few fixtures:
West ham (h)
Bournemouth (a)
Watford (h)
Schalke (h) CL
Swansea (a) FA
International break.
They won't need fernindino or laporte for these games. They should be rested and come back fresh for the run in.
True, and as good as your two young defenders have played, Ox has maybe been a bigger miss. He added penetration from midfield for you, which you don't have now, although I'm guessing thats what Shaqiri & Keita were bought for.
But going back to those key players who haven't missed any league games, next season they probably will. You need to make this season count.
Its all hotting up for the United vs city game.
As it stands united can't afford to drop any points if they want top 4.
Arsenal will probably run away with it though tbh.
As it stands united can't afford to drop any points if they want top 4.
Arsenal will probably run away with it though tbh.
Arsenal couldn't run away from an amputee.
Too soon to hype up the City game, despite how much you might want to. Before then Arsenal have to go to Spurs, host United visit Everton and Watford. None of those matches will be easy.
Would gladly miss out on top 4 if it directly meant that Liverpool didn't win the league.
If it also meant City won the quadruple?
They won't.
Agreed. I still fancy them for a treble, though (League/League Cup +1).
The only thing Arsenal run away from are trophies.
No way, United's interests first and foremost.
Fair enough, that's your opinion.
To me, missing CL for 1 season - if it meant Liverpool not winning the PL - is literally meaningless to me.
It's very unlikely that we'd win the CL anyway next season.
Well, it's still more likely than the alternative, which is playing Europa League on Thursday nights.
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