He's already got a bad back...
You're in for a rocky ride if you think it's as easy as keeping him as it's WC year. So long as he performs for Brazil in Qualifications he'll be considered.
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He's already got a bad back...
You're in for a rocky ride if you think it's as easy as keeping him as it's WC year. So long as he performs for Brazil in Qualifications he'll be considered.
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There's always the possibility though that he won't perform at the required level. It's very difficult for footballers to pick & choose when they want to play well & when they don't. That's not even taking into consideration the fact that if he's shite playing for Liverpool next season Barcelona might decide not to bother. I personally feel he'll give us his best if he's forced to stay another season.
I'm not convinced. As said he's already allegedly got a bad back. The signs are already there.
Barca want him now, not next season, and he knows that. It's potentially now or never for him.
... this was my point. Nothing is certain in the world of transfers. Locking threads is a daft idea.
yeah I quoted my post and forgot to quote yours earlier laughing at myself
Do you lads still need spelling out which request he was talking about? Hang on I'll do it.
Is this the highlight of the transfer window?
The statement that everyone took to be the end of it, then Sky Sports breaking the transfer request, more reliable journalists denying it, before then all confirming it themselves. Must have been a horrid few hours to be a Liverpool fan. This window started promisingly with Salah's acquisition and has descended into farce with the van Dijk incident, Leipzig's obdurateness and now this.I'd love to see what Jamie Redknapp thinks about all this.
He was adamant on Monday that since VVD had handed in a transfer request Southampton had to get rid because you can't keep an unhappy player. Wonder if the same applies to Coutinho for him?
He was adamant on Monday that since VVD had handed in a transfer request Southampton had to get rid because you can't keep an unhappy player. Wonder if the same applies to Coutinho for him?
I rate Coutinho but it would still be quite a downgrade from Neymar. As for Liverpool, they would face the same problem as when they sold Suarez - even with cash in hand, they find it hard attract established elite talent.
Looks like they will be called Dembele and Coutinho though. Which is a great combination.
He was actually quite clear that Coutinho will leave for Barcelona. Carragher said that he thinks Coutinho will stay for another 12 months and leave next summer, Redknapp responded that there's no way he'll stay, because this could be a once-in-a-life-time opportunity as you have only one career as a football player, obviously.
It has been a dreadful window. I was optimistic when Keita and VVD looked like realistic options but now it's a bit of a nightmare.Is this the highlight of the transfer window?
I'm not sure how things will play out now with Coutinho. I can't say that I find FSG's statement very reassuring now.
So Coutinho is fecking Liverpool over?
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Yea, it really has been quite shite really.Is this the highlight of the transfer window?
I get the feeling he wouldnt be replacing Neymar but Inestia. Given his form last season Coutinho would be seen as an improvement
Ok, why isn't Coutinho receiving the same seething hatred that Sterling did...?
He's leaving them in the lurch, putting in transfer requests the day before the season starts!
Am I missing something, or should he be receiving easily the same ire that Raheem was subject to?
He's leaving them in the lurch, putting in transfer requests the day before the season starts!
Am I missing something, or should he be receiving easily the same ire that Raheem was subject to?
This has a strong resemblance to the Torres transfer, FSG probably put that statement out to provoke Coutinho into submitting a transfer request so they can turn around and say "oh but we weally weally tried to keep him guys" feck that, i know the club aren't going to replace him adequately if at all, so let the guy rot in the reserves until he fixes up. It was only 3 months ago this shithouse was talking about being a legend etc. Also Brazil have already qualified for the world cup iirc that may make decisions easier for him.
I really hope FSG hold their nerve (I've no doubt they can, as they've already shown) and tell him he can only go next Summer for a 'very substantial fee'.
Suarez did more than fine during his last season and with the WC next Summer I'm sure Coutinho will have a great season too. Barca have been here before with us so ......
Suarez did more than fine during his last season and with the WC next Summer I'm sure Coutinho will have a great season too. Barca have been here before with us so ......
What if Barcelona has presented a now or never scenario to Coutinho? It might seem like it with him whipping up a transfer request in 15 minutes time.
He isn't good enough for Barca to wait a year, Suarez was.
Unfortunately it's been like this most windows since they took over. We've been reported for tapping up Dempsey and VVD under them. There's a whole host of things gone wrong under them and it would take an essay to sum up every point succinctly. 3 points tomorrow is much needed but even that is a temporary respite for a long term illness.Is this the highlight of the transfer window?
Spurs are probably paying Eriksen about £11k a week, we could offer them around £60 million for him. Obviously very unlikely though.
Can't really blame the lad for wanting to leave. Not many footballers out there who'd turn down the chance to play with Messi at the camp nou. Especially when the team you're in is bringing in Scottish left backs from a relegated team when they're back in Europe.
Not happy he's going, really don't like the way he's done it just before the season starts but I can understand it. Shit I've been a fan since I was knee high to R2-D2 and I'd be off as well.
Lining up with Iniesta, Messi, Suarez in the sun VS Madrid, or Robertson, Hendo, Milner away at Huddersfield. It really is a no brainer sadly. Anyone who takes off their rose tinted specs and tin foil hat would see the same.
Not happy he's going, really don't like the way he's done it just before the season starts but I can understand it. Shit I've been a fan since I was knee high to R2-D2 and I'd be off as well.
Lining up with Iniesta, Messi, Suarez in the sun VS Madrid, or Robertson, Hendo, Milner away at Huddersfield. It really is a no brainer sadly. Anyone who takes off their rose tinted specs and tin foil hat would see the same.
That's a possibility but even Barca won't know if it's true or not. Iniesta hasn't gone yet and Dembele is a replacement for Neymar so that side of their recruitment isn't linked. Can't blame him for wanting to go but the timing is shite. However, as I envisioned happened with Suarez, Barca and Liverpool could come to an agreement on a fee for next Summer. As to how good he is .. well there isn't much competition for that slot and many people expect Coutinho to improve even further this season in a slightly deeper, more creative, position, that'd be 'perfect training' for Barca.
Well you've got to put a bid in for him first. So far no bids for Van Dick have been received by Saints!
The humiliation of getting caught tapping up a player, and all for the sake of signing Clint Dempsey
I wouldn't worry too much if I was a 'Pool fan though, I think a combination of Klopp and your front three of Salah, Firmino and Mane you'll still battle for top four. The signings of Keita and van Dijk, however, would have made you serious title contenders. I reckon Coutinho will be forced to stay and he'll get on with things on the pitch.We do now know that Phil is definitely talking to Barca & we now know he definitely wants to go.
Relationship between Phil & LFC can't be repaired from here, (imo). Not even for a season.
Relationship between Phil & LFC can't be repaired from here, (imo). Not even for a season.
Liverpool should be smart about this: phone PSG, offer a loan exchange with fixed price for next year, send them Coutinho and get Pastore in exchange
That was also the situation with Suarez .. in fact that was worse and look how that worked out. His best ever season for us.
Didn't you reach an understanding with Suarez about how it would play out fairly early?
Coutinho's camp coming out with that whole line about how he doesn't like the way he has been played and that he and Klopp has had their differences the last six months might indicate that Coutinho is desperate for a move.
IMO he has been told by Barca that it is now or never, and he'll do everything he can to push the move. Suarez knew he was good enough to warrant Barca waiting a year, Coutinho doesn't have that luxury.
Yeah there's an awful lot of hopeful bluster in here. We had a much worse scenario with de Gea where he had his dream snatched away at the last minute. We can try and convince ourselves all we want that he didn't desperately want to go but the length of the negotiations and the hurdles that had to be overcome to get to where they did makes it pretty clear de Gea was commited to going. It got to the point where the point where he was deemed mentally unprepared and had to be dropped.
We've had the same before with loads of players. Ruud put in 3 transfer requests. Rooney supposedly put in a transfer request with the intention of going to City.
It's just the media creating a spectacle out of it because it gets them readers/viewers and the player making a spectacle out of it because best case scenario it helps them achieve their selfish objective, worst case scenario it makes fans and teammates a bit uncomfortable for a little while and then people get over it. The idea that there's been irreparable damage done is nothing more than wishful thinking. We hear it all the time about opposition players and from oppposition fans but it almost never happens.
It does tend to have an adverse effect on the player's performance though. Ruud played half-heartedly for a while, Rooney looked out of sorts, de Gea's never returned to the same level and Ronaldo dropped a level in his final year after signing that pre-agreement with Madrid.
Ok, why isn't Coutinho receiving the same seething hatred that Sterling did...?
He's leaving them in the lurch, putting in transfer requests the day before the season starts!
Am I missing something, or should he be receiving easily the same ire that Raheem was subject to?
Sterling is English and he left for another English club whereas there is generally an acceptance that a foreign player, especially a Latin American, will always be tempted by a move to Madrid/Barcelona.
KM's going in for the kill... he's doing it for a thrill.
And superior average finishing... haha
Damn you!
Now I'm going to bed with La Roux songs in my head and will no doubt have nightmares about her chasing me through a forest, yodeling at me like it's 2010 again.
Thank god @KM addressed @PickledRed's broken record re. point totals.
Liverpool have been almost as dumb as us in this transfer window. Instead of endlessly chasing unrealistic targets (VVD, Keita) they should have tried to go for more realistic options who are almost as good (De Vrij, Seri).
There are still 20 days left in the transfer window so it's not the end of the world, but Liverpool need two more signings IMO.
There are still 20 days left in the transfer window so it's not the end of the world, but Liverpool need two more signings IMO.
I think I´d be a lot more petty billionaire than all these owners. If some little schmuck did that to me, I´d let him train for the full five years of his contract till he came to me begging to buy out his own contract. If Liverpool simply ran down his contract without ever giving him a competitive game his career would literally be over. He´d be 30 years old without a competitive game in five years.
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I'd say 3 at least. One to replace Coutinho assuming he leaves, someone for central midfield (the Keita role as it was supposed to be) and another central defender to ensure Klavan is strictly emergency back up only. If VVD and Keita were the only options then someone at the club needs firing. You can't put all your eggs in one basket in football, needs to be a plan B, C, D and even E.