Liverpool 2016/17 - Performance and chat thread.

ManUchosenbosslvg said:
I thought Chelsea were unbeaten with 4 wins and a draw before they played Liverpool?
For what it's worth I'll give praise for the football being played by them now, but everything is still going perfect, wait til the injuries mount up.
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It depends who gets injured. If it's someone like Wijnaldum then I think Can can come in and do a job. Lovren was missing today and Klavan filled in well. I think we'd miss Mane though if he was out for a month or so, and it's interesting that the one game he's missed is also the one game we've lost/played poorly.

I agree with what @redman5 said. We're not overly reliant on anyone right now. It's more about the team than any individuals. As you say though it'll be interesting to see how we cope if we get three or four first team players injured. Having to go back to Moreno at left back could be a problem, and playing Lucas at CB for a few weeks would expose our defensive frailties.

Swansea will be a tough test next week.
 
Just our luck that when we get our shit together finally we come up against Guardiola.
 
They're very very good. Need them to go deep in the cups so they have a distraction. They're going to massively profit from not having European football.
 
City, Liverpool, Spurs all good at the moment.
Arsenal there of course and us hopefully on a right track.
It will be some season.
 
Cuntinho is fecking brilliant. Second best 10 in the league for me after De Bruyne.
 
Liverpool dare I say it look to be the real deal this season. Wouldn't go as far as them being second favourites for the title like the bookies were saying earlier today but still. Going to be a very tough game in a few weeks for us.
 
Leftback99 said:
They were lucky to play Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea when they were all at their weakest, can't take the points off them now though. They'll be challenging all season I think.
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Do you mean because they hadn't got going as it was the start of the season - or because of missing players? Either way it doesn't really make sense. We were missing players too.
 
Unfortunately, for them they dont have a squad with enough quality in depth to mount a serious title challenge. As good as they were today, they were up against 10 men from early on and had 2 penalties. Can only beat whats infront of you though.
 
Finn MacCool said:
Do you mean because they hadn't got going as it was the start of the season - or because of missing players? Either way it doesn't really make sense. We were missing players too.
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A bit of both. The Arsenal side they played against was particularly weak compared to today's line up (Holding, Chambers at CB, no Ozil, no Cazorla starting). I'd expect us to beat that side comfortably but not today's.
 
Leftback99 said:
A bit of both. The Arsenal side they played against was particularly weak compared to today's line up (Holding, Chambers at CB, no Ozil, no Cazorla starting). I'd expect us to beat that side comfortably but not today's.
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Yeah and they were low on confidence then too with the fan base being particularly prickly. I'd still think we could beat the current Arsenal (they don't like it up 'em, etc) but given the choice, no thanks we're happy with the 3 points in the bank. :)
 
VorZakone said:
Did they miss some players against Burnley? They seem to have turned it around after that match.
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One key player: Mane. I said at length in the Klopp thread that I was still not sure of Klopp's managerial abilities because I could see how Burnley were going to set up against us without pace (i.e. Origi needed to play instead of Lallana or preferably Coutinho). But now that Sturridge, Couts, Firmino and Lallana are 2 or even 3 levels above what they were at the start of the season I reckon we could still be decent without Mane.

Oh and boy has Klopp proved me wrong about knowing one or two things about management. :eek:
 
I saw glimpses but I must admit they look brilliant at the moment. Hopefully it is a momentum thing and when they do falter they drop points at a canter. Otherwise, Klopp has got them playing some beautiful football and they look like a team that enjoys each other's company and take pride in each other's accomplishments.

Last game, even we gave that impression of being a unit. Hope this is a sign of things to come and it improves for us from here on.
 
I have said so earlier - Liverpool's true test will be in the second part of the season. The kind of intense pressing they do will definitely take its toll even without European football. Klopp is not used to managing a team without winter breaks and when the fixtures start cramming up towards Christmas, things could easily unravel for them as they won't be able to play this type of 100 mile/hour football which Klopp has them playing.
 
NK86 said:
I have said so earlier - Liverpool's true test will be in the second part of the season. The kind of intense pressing they do will definitely take its toll even without European football. Klopp is not used to managing a team without winter breaks and when the fixtures start cramming up towards Christmas, things could easily unravel for them as they won't be able to play this type of 100 mile/hour football which Klopp has them playing.
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They aren't going to have a fixture pile up. They might only play another 34 games, barely more than one a week.
 
Moaning on match day = lfc career over by now.
 
Scouse boom period is on now. Get your tables out. They are winning the league in september again.
 
Wins at Arsenal & Chelsea plus a draw at Spurs is mighty impressive, and the 2 home games have been a blitz.

I wonder if Liverpool will struggle a bit more away from home against lesser teams due to their style. All of the 3 London teams they've done well at like to play from the back and it perfectly suits the way this Liverpool team press. I wonder if they might find it a bit more difficult at an Andy Carroll led West Ham or at Palace, sides where they go from back to front much quicker and therefore greatly reducing Liverpools chance to press.

Bournemouth are going to get blown away by this team at home because they will invite the trouble.

I'd actually fancy them to do very well at City and Utd as well, but oddly they might find the better teams more of a problem at home than away from home.

It will be interesting to see.
 
NK86 said:
I have said so earlier - Liverpool's true test will be in the second part of the season. The kind of intense pressing they do will definitely take its toll even without European football. Klopp is not used to managing a team without winter breaks and when the fixtures start cramming up towards Christmas, things could easily unravel for them as they won't be able to play this type of 100 mile/hour football which Klopp has them playing.
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10/04/16 - Liverpool 4 -1 Stoke City

14/04/16 - Liverpool 4 - 3 Dortmund

17/04/16 - Bournemouth 1 - 2 Liverpool

20/04/16 - Liverpool 4 - 0 Everton

4 games in 10 days towards the end of last season. 4 victories with 14 goals scored. So tell me again why we're going to tire, especially as we have no European commitments this season. Wishful thinking on your part maybe ?
 
TO be honest, it is a bit scary as well as depressing to see Liverpool playing so well at this moment. They have signed players that suit their attacking play. There is a good understanding and cohesion between their attacking trio (mane,coutinho, firminio) and lallana. Everything looking rosy for them and without European football i can see them in Top 2 or 3 by December.
 
I think they'll get top 4.....

Will be tight for all the teams below City going for the CL spots but the time between games will be crucial for Liverpool

They will lose a few with that defence but so will we, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs
 
Frasbul said:
They won't get Top 4. Everyone is overreacting because they played a couple of good games.
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I am an United fan but they have played 360 minutes of outstanding football so far out of available 540 minutes. They blew away Arsenal, Leicester, Hull and had 1 outstanding half against Spurs , Chelsea. Their start to the season is more impressive than City's in terms of performance as well as points gathered away from home against potential top 6 teams.
 
madRedDevil07 said:
TO be honest, it is a bit scary as well as depressing to see Liverpool playing so well at this moment. They have signed players that suit their attacking play. There is a good understanding and cohesion between their attacking trio (mane,coutinho, firminio) and lallana. Everything looking rosy for them and without European football i can see them in Top 2 or 3 by December.
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The new signings have certainly helped us move up a level that's for sure. Amazing to think we actually made a profit in the summer transfer window.
 
There's a few opposition fans saying Liverpool will tire after Xmas because of klopps style. No winter break etc but I don't see this happening. The teams has on most weeks got a full 5/6/7 days between games.

At bvb, he always had cl football to contend with as well which is much more demanding and a two week break mid winter doesn't negate that extra workload.

Put it this way... instead of a winter break, what Liverpool have got is loads of bank holidays though the season. :D

He's trimmed the squad and made a net profit to boot. We are playing the best football I've seen since 13/14.

Klopp is a fecking genius, I'd even put him ahead of pep! Not because he's technically more clever but because he hasn't spent a bucket load. What he's done with us in less than one season is nothing short of astonishing.

I don't think we will win the league btw and I'm sure we will have a few setbacks.
 
madRedDevil07 said:
I am an United fan but they have played 360 minutes of outstanding football so far out of available 540 minutes. They blew away Arsenal, Leicester, Hull and had 1 outstanding half against Spurs , Chelsea. Their start to the season is more impressive than City's in terms of performance as well as points gathered away from home against potential top 6 teams.
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They are definitely in the mix for top 4,they have picked up some good points away from home already and will have an easier run in provided they don't get hit with too many injuries.
 
Klopp's impressive start hasn't gone unnoticed in Germany.

I know you signed him up to a 6 year contract but if Bayern come calling then contracts don't mean very much.

Wouldn't surprise me if Tuchel beats him to the Bayern job in another couple of seasons though.
 
A lot of people on here said we had a lousy transfer window but as I have said several times the big achievement in Klopp's first summer window was the excellent work we did re-balancing the squad.
We spent virtually nothing as far as net spend goes and got good money for so many players the manager didn't want. Future windows can be much more settled.

New stand, team playing well, Mane has been brilliant, Wijnaldum has gone a little unnoticed (was at the game and watched him closely yesterday), but he has been very solid & compliments the rest of the midfield and forward players very well.

Add to that the transformed Lallana, Coutinho and Firmino always a threat plus a fully fit Henderson - we look a real team. Decent strength in depth on the bench too.

The biggest plus has been Matip, getting him on a free could well be the signing of the season.

A very difficult fixture list so far and we look in a good league position despite that.
I didn't think we would make the top 4 but I am a little more optimistic we may now. However, it's far too early and other teams are also looking good too.
 
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