Haven't seen him in a while...
Got the bum's rush after the game at Anfield for making some crass remark about Skyrtel's stamp on De Gea.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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Got the bum's rush after the game at Anfield for making some crass remark about Skyrtel's stamp on De Gea.
Credit where credit is due, Villa were excellent and we didnt turn up for the fight.Rodgers defensive negligence will always be a problem and its further exacerbated with a back four and no competent strikers. For all the pre match bravado of claiming he would not bow to sentimentality he did exactly that. "Im heartless like that" i believe he said or words to that effect when the Gerrard question was posed to him, the man needs to learn a stock answer is sometimes the most viable course of action then he wouldn't look such a tit when it inevitably and without fail bites him on the arse. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, next season we need to rectify the transfer modus operandi, there needs to be a definitive individual or collective running things, be that the manager, a head scout, a TC, or a DOF. Rodgers needs to change his approach to big games I'd rather we played our natural attacking game and gave it a go then cede possesion play on the counter then throw Lambert on for a few mins when we inevitably end up chasing the game, coutinhos magic will only bail us out so often. Two Rodger' type strikers are a must in the summer give him that and if he fails he cant have any qualms about losing his job.
Once again congrats to Villa played not just with heart spirit and vigour, but some delightful stuff on the deck epitomised by Fabian Delph's display. Dont think Sherwood will work out in the long term but i could be wrong, hes certainly got them fired up and i expect them to give Arsenal a game certainly more than we would have.
Once again congrats to Villa played not just with heart spirit and vigour, but some delightful stuff on the deck epitomised by Fabian Delph's display. Dont think Sherwood will work out in the long term but i could be wrong, hes certainly got them fired up and i expect them to give Arsenal a game certainly more than we would have.
I also thought Cleverley gave a really hard time to your midfield which sums up how much of an off day it was for you. Though Allen/Hendo/Gerrard is very uninspiring in any case.
Losing Suarez was half the problem, the awful players they've replaced him with is the other half.
Was at the game yesterday, fair play to Villa fully deserved to win.
We were woeful. When they brought Joe Cole on it was the final insult really.
Gerrard should never have started let alone play the whole 90 minutes, the game passed him by I am afraid.
Sterling up front just didn't work, no control of the midfield either.
I can take getting beat, they were the better team - but they worked harder and wanted it a lot more, that's hard to take.
The likes of Grealish and Delph played well, but we made them look like Xavi and Iniesta yesterday.
Massive summer ahead for the manager, he can't afford any mistakes in the transfer market.
We were woeful. When they brought Joe Cole on it was the final insult really.
Gerrard should never have started let alone play the whole 90 minutes, the game passed him by I am afraid.
Sterling up front just didn't work, no control of the midfield either.
I can take getting beat, they were the better team - but they worked harder and wanted it a lot more, that's hard to take.
The likes of Grealish and Delph played well, but we made them look like Xavi and Iniesta yesterday.
Massive summer ahead for the manager, he can't afford any mistakes in the transfer market.
haha it all actually came true, it's been a hell of a farewell tour.
Oh my God that's porn!
Remember this from a few months back?
I bet those five "extra" cases of Sauvignon Blanc are a huge help right now.
I rarely commend scouse fans on their objectivity but full marks to them for not quoting the off-side decision as a reason for their loss and how the competition is bent/fixed/corrupt.
We just weren't up for it. I'm still wondering how on Earth we thought we could beat Villa with such a mentality. It wasn't the right way to start an FA Cup semi-final (or any game for that matter), and Rodgers is partly at fault here as well. The players should come out of the dressing room all pumped up and fully focused instead of thinking it was some kind of training session.
We've some very good Liverpool fans right now. Johnny Boy, Robin, Tommy, Bob Loblaw and Liver_bird are all objective posters. Let's hope they don't do a Barney.
Yeah. I'd agree with that. His hands were tied in part due to the injuries/ineligibility of Ibe but there is no excuse, tactically we were abysmal. FSG may have/should have sent Klopp and email after that.
Sums it up. The supply from midfield was horrendous. BR should know by now that 9/10 a Henderson/Allen midfield pairing offers little.
Well I was close (and you do realise it was 'tongue-in-cheek' don't you, as the posts following it made clear) .... and not wrong about the media love-in !
Remember this from a few months back?
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Well it was an horrendous decision though not for moment do I think there was anything deceitful about it. It was just yet another poor decision to underline the fact that TV replays should be part of the game. Maybe something like cricket - 3 appeals per match per side, or like rugby, referee decides when to send the decision 'upstairs'.
However this doesn't for one moment detract from the fact Villa deserved to win because they were the team prepared to put 100% into everything they did and because their manager got his tactics spot on. They were comfortably the better team on the day and deserve to be in the final.
Probably just automatically gave it because Balotelli was just constantly getting caught offside.
Shocking decision but not the reason we lost - we weren't good enough.
Yeah they over achieved last season and that has warped everything. 5th and a decent cup run should actually be par for them.
Ive been slowly changing my mind away from TV replays tbh, other than completely black and white stuff like over the line decisions where we can use specific tech. I'm not sure that its always as easy to do in a moment as people suggest.
Consider that Fellaini goal vs City last week. When you see the first replay he looks offside because it looks like he's leaning out. But then on MNF the following day they superimpose the computer graphics on the scene to show you the ideal angle and it turns out he's not offside at all, it was a trick of the angle of the TV camera. TV replays aren't as infallible as people suggest.
I seem to remember that on first glance it was quite clear Fellaini was onside. Anyway, in situations like that, where even with replays it is a tough decision, then you can just have a rule where you stick with the ref's original interpretation.
Absolutely. However there are some horrendous decisions regarding penalties, red cards (or not) and offsides (to name just three) where a resolution in 90% of cases is less than 1 minute away (less time than all the on-field bickering takes). In cricket if the 3rd umpire can't make a clear-cut call then the final decision reverts to the referee. I'd rather have fair calls made throughout the game than have what Blatter seems to think is an integral (though incorrect) part of football (his words).
If they ever do come into effect, I'm sure there would be more to it than just simple replays. There's nothing to stop them from using the same technology used on MNF, similar to what is used in goal line technology.
The problem is that in eliminating the concept of the refs only having one opportunity to view a situation, you open the door to more allegations of conspiracies and the potential breakdown of trust between refs and clubs.
At the moment clubs can, grudgingly at least, accept that a mistake is honest since the ref only sees it once. On the other hand if the ref (or their assistant) takes time out to spend time looking and thinking about a decision and with the benefit of replays still comes up with one the club disagrees with, theyre plainly they're going to think that the decision went against them on purpose. It eliminates the benefit of the doubt that's an important part of trust in any human decision making process.
In theory I guess that's true, though I don't know how quickly they mock up these software overlays and whether they're reliable to the level required for professional useage. Offside does seem like it could be cracked with the right tech.
After their defeat in Turkey I said this Scouse side has deep problems. The fact that those problems have multiplied the way they have isn't surpring. On the pitch they often look very uncomfortable together for large parts of games - it's all very patchy. There're few moments of fluidity, but it all looks hidebound to their midfield-defence system.
The discipline and contract issues aside, they believed last season was a platform for success but ignored issues that mired their run in like at Palace. All their money from Fang was spent on very average players when they needed a couple of top lads and one to replace their lynchpin player. Slippy was once that lynchpin but has declined faster and his waning performances have dragged the side down. I don't like him nor the team but not addressing the loss of his calibre is now exposing a fundamental weakness in the team. He was also their talisman as captain and looking at the present alternatives it hard to see who can fill his boots for next season. In a sense the loss of Slippy is a double blow.
This morning the Telegraph has piled in on Brenda. IMO Klopp is the perfect candidate. He crafts squads from thin resources and better still builds team spirit. He would be ideal in taking an objective look at the squad and fixing the talisman and lynchpin problem. If the situation isn't addressed that team might disappear into the wilderness for a few seasons.
The discipline and contract issues aside, they believed last season was a platform for success but ignored issues that mired their run in like at Palace. All their money from Fang was spent on very average players when they needed a couple of top lads and one to replace their lynchpin player. Slippy was once that lynchpin but has declined faster and his waning performances have dragged the side down. I don't like him nor the team but not addressing the loss of his calibre is now exposing a fundamental weakness in the team. He was also their talisman as captain and looking at the present alternatives it hard to see who can fill his boots for next season. In a sense the loss of Slippy is a double blow.
This morning the Telegraph has piled in on Brenda. IMO Klopp is the perfect candidate. He crafts squads from thin resources and better still builds team spirit. He would be ideal in taking an objective look at the squad and fixing the talisman and lynchpin problem. If the situation isn't addressed that team might disappear into the wilderness for a few seasons.
Well it was an horrendous decision though not for moment do I think there was anything deceitful about it. It was just yet another poor decision to underline the fact that TV replays should be part of the game. Maybe something like cricket - 3 appeals per match per side, or like rugby, referee decides when to send the decision 'upstairs'.
However this doesn't for one moment detract from the fact Villa deserved to win because they were the team prepared to put 100% into everything they did and because their manager got his tactics spot on. They were comfortably the better team on the day and deserve to be in the final.
Really poor decision, most definitely. Regardless of who played better or whatever, an equaliser is still an equaliser.
Still. I think players highlighting their disagreement with referees/governing bodies on social media seems a bit ill-advised. Seems to happening a bit more frequently these days. Managers get punished for 'bringing the game into disrepute', or whatever. Can a player be punished for that as well?
Nah, there's no way they're moving to the Etihad.
Well it was an horrendous decision though not for moment do I think there was anything deceitful about it. It was just yet another poor decision to underline the fact that TV replays should be part of the game. Maybe something like cricket - 3 appeals per match per side, or like rugby, referee decides when to send the decision 'upstairs'.
However this doesn't for one moment detract from the fact Villa deserved to win because they were the team prepared to put 100% into everything they did and because their manager got his tactics spot on. They were comfortably the better team on the day and deserve to be in the final.
Agreed that it was a horrendous decision. Still not sold on the TV replay solution though unless it is written in clear terms which decisions will be referred and which won't. Otherwise the game will be converted into a ref bashing session where each decision will result in the players surrounding him and demanding a tv replay.
Also, does the Balotelli post fall under the "bringing the game into disrepute" bucket? People have been warned/fined for less.
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Yeah, Dumby's a good bloke too, IMO.
Ahhh :kiss:
Won't they basically be doing the same thing this coming summer as they did the last in terms of transfers?
They couldn't attract top players with the guarantee of CL football this season. How do they think they'll be able to do so without it? All of their fans have been moaning all season about how they signed quantity over quality but I just don't see how that'll change now that they're in a significantly worse position than they were in.
They have no CL, don't pay the necessary wages, don't pay the necessary transfer fees, and have so many problem areas that need addressing that a top player will see them and think "they're miles away from challenging."
And on top of all that their best player seemingly wants out (most likely to a "rival"). This season may set them back to where they were prior to last season.
They couldn't attract top players with the guarantee of CL football this season. How do they think they'll be able to do so without it? All of their fans have been moaning all season about how they signed quantity over quality but I just don't see how that'll change now that they're in a significantly worse position than they were in.
They have no CL, don't pay the necessary wages, don't pay the necessary transfer fees, and have so many problem areas that need addressing that a top player will see them and think "they're miles away from challenging."
And on top of all that their best player seemingly wants out (most likely to a "rival"). This season may set them back to where they were prior to last season.
true, i think they have entered the acceptance stage. currently safe to approach
Am I the only one who thinks it would be a mistake to fire him? The man is doing a decent job, IMO
Look at their squad for Christ's sake - what kind of miracle do you expect him to perform??
If he's to blame for something (other than the transfers, but that's not just him, right?) it's for letting Liverpool fans think that that it would be an abomination for them not finishing top four. It's the other way around - it would be an abomination for the second year in a row if they actually did.
Look at their squad for Christ's sake - what kind of miracle do you expect him to perform??
If he's to blame for something (other than the transfers, but that's not just him, right?) it's for letting Liverpool fans think that that it would be an abomination for them not finishing top four. It's the other way around - it would be an abomination for the second year in a row if they actually did.
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I find it hard to be objective because I've never warmed to Brendan Rodgers, but I think he may have reached a tipping point in his career at LFC. It's impossible to know why yesterday was so poor but I suspect it starts with his determination to shoehorn Steven Gerrard into the side and his refusal to substitute him. Regardless, for his team to perform so badly in a cup semi final is a damning indictment of the man. As were his comments afterwards. He seems happy to say that the players lacked a "big-game mentality" but fails to recognize that weakness in himself. There was a lack of conviction in the selection, the tactics, the performance, and in each and every bit of his tinkering during the game.
The play had completely stopped by the time Balotelli tapped it in. Poor decision, but if play had kept on it the defenders would have kept up with him/ he wouldn't have had the space to easily finish like he did.
They ultimately blew their chance to sign one or two top quality players while they had the attraction of CL football. Instead they pulled a Spurs, which many Liverpool fans were in denial of during the summer.
Do remeber they wont have the Suarez money this time, so their owners will have dig in their own pockets.
Basically Liverpool needs to start parying in a hope.that every player they sscot.and sign turns into Suarez.