Let's be honest. If Messi were to leave Barca, the only clubs that can afford him are the sugardaddy clubs. United don't stand a chance. I'd say City has the best chance given Aguero plays for them, so I'm hoping it's Aguero to Barca first.
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Maybe swap the Glazers with a sugardaddy to prepare us for this moment?
That's the last thing anyone involved in this is going to be.
Well played. 
You are hoping that Aguero goes to Barca in the hope that Messi goes to City and you are a Manchester United fan???
Messi is superior to Aguero in every sense. If City had the brains, they would keep Aguero and buy Messi.You are hoping that Aguero goes to Barca in the hope that Messi goes to City and you are a Manchester United fan???
No I meant that I'm hoping Aguero goes to Barca so that Messi wouldn't go to City in the event that he does leave Barca. Aguero has talked about wanting to play with Messi. Why would I want Messi to go to City?
Because of this:
This implies that you hope Aguero goes to Barcelona first then Messi goes to Manchester City. Perhaps you should have phrased it correctly since it did indicate that. In any case, as far as Aguero is concerned, I am not so sure he would get the same money as he is now. I mean, the only thing the Sheikh has to do is to wave a blank cheque in his face and ask him to name his price.
This assuming Messi would be after a massive payday first and foremost, or would rather truly cement his legacy by joining a club like per say Spurs and transforming them into champions (ala Maradona at Napoli) or joins one of the historical, prestigious clubs (ala Bayern, Milan, United) and leads them to glory. Messi may well see a club like City as unworthy of his employment.
Come off it, Messi will never leave Barca while he's in his prime. The fans would boycott matches if he was sold.
Of course they wouldn't. They'd make Rosell and the board's life hell - which makes you wonder why Rosell would risk it - but that's a completely different matter.
It's almost unimagineable, but only almost.
Just to add one more thing, and that is Messi, unlike others who love the idea of being paid squintillions par week; adores football and for him, it has been part of his life. Whether he gets a payrise or not, I don't think it really matters as much as actually doing something that he really enjoys. I mean, the guy came off the bench injured to play against PSG to save his team. That says more about him and the sacrifice he is prepared to make to get his team as far as he can. He is far from a mercernary. He is definitely not like Nasri or Rooney.
Ah, Graham Hunter started this rumour... The guy who accidentally accused Xavi of doping; said that Thiago had joined Manchester United when Guardiola convinced him to join Bayern Munich; and bizarrely said that Dongou was better than Messi at the age of 17.
Wayne gretzky was traded once, whilst in his prime
That's why he cheated on his tax filings
Rooney played against Munich pretty much knowing he's injured. Stop romanticizing mundane things into a Messi eulogy PL, FFS
Yeah but we'd make it back in ice cream sales. Or something.
Poor Graham, he has obviously spent far too much time around Balague
Ooops.
There have been dark rumblings in the Spanish press about some problems surrounding Messi's family, with the phrase "not just the tax case" being added.
So today El Mundo have run with the story that Messi's summer charity tour matches may have been used for moneylaundering purposes. Possibly by a Colombian drug ring. Possibly with his dad's knowledge.
http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2013/12/16/52ae508d61fd3ddc798b4571.html
Apparently you get a cut of 10 to 20% if you help the laundry industry, which could come in handy if you've got some tax bills to pay. Moral of the story: your dad may not be the best financial advisor if you become a multimillionaire.
The investigation's looking at a number of different events, including music concerts etc. Messi, Alves, Pinto and Mascherano are among the people who've been interviewed.
There have been dark rumblings in the Spanish press about some problems surrounding Messi's family, with the phrase "not just the tax case" being added.
So today El Mundo have run with the story that Messi's summer charity tour matches may have been used for moneylaundering purposes. Possibly by a Colombian drug ring. Possibly with his dad's knowledge.
http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2013/12/16/52ae508d61fd3ddc798b4571.html
Apparently you get a cut of 10 to 20% if you help the laundry industry, which could come in handy if you've got some tax bills to pay. Moral of the story: your dad may not be the best financial advisor if you become a multimillionaire.
The investigation's looking at a number of different events, including music concerts etc. Messi, Alves, Pinto and Mascherano are among the people who've been interviewed.
Looks like the capital has a new approach to try and tarnish Messi's reputation and stature as a footballer, disseminate as much rubbish as possible & see what sticks. Must be hoping that will endear voters & media to consider another local footballer for awards & adoration
A Tiger Woods style meltdown would be quite funny, to be honest.Rosell's smear campaign starting in earnest?
More like the usual from the capital. The UCO who are the ones investigating this drug ring don't actually believe Messi, his father or any of the players had any knowledge of what was going on at these matches but that didn't keep the Madrid paper and their Blanco editor from reporting it
Here is the editor with his buddy
I am sure the Messi family will be taking them to court. Doesn't end there though, now the Spanish government is targeting Neymar and his contract with Barcelona. Somewhere in hell, Franco cracks a smile
Here is the editor with his buddy
I am sure the Messi family will be taking them to court. Doesn't end there though, now the Spanish government is targeting Neymar and his contract with Barcelona. Somewhere in hell, Franco cracks a smile
More like the usual from the capital. The UCO who are the ones investigating this drug ring don't actually believe Messi, his father or any of the players had any knowledge of what was going on at these matches but that didn't keep the Madrid paper and their Blanco editor from reporting it
Here is the editor with his buddy
I am sure the Messi family will be taking them to court. Doesn't end there though, now the Spanish government is targeting Neymar and his contract with Barcelona. Somewhere in hell, Franco cracks a smile
Bloody hell, you can script a Golazo movie with these snippets.
Great journalism by the sounds of it.
The family (or its reps) are doing a press conference today to complain about the El Mundo story and denying any involvement in the case.
Someone associated with the matches is almost certainly involved - but probably not the Messi family or his companies. They are thought to have received direct payments from the promoters, rather than being involved in ticketing or financing (which is where you'd have to be if you were laundering the money). The Spanish police have basically said they've been interviewed as witnesses of facts, like dates, locations, payments, and contracts for the games played.
Someone associated with the matches is almost certainly involved - but probably not the Messi family or his companies. They are thought to have received direct payments from the promoters, rather than being involved in ticketing or financing (which is where you'd have to be if you were laundering the money). The Spanish police have basically said they've been interviewed as witnesses of facts, like dates, locations, payments, and contracts for the games played.
Seems to be some trouble in paradise, Messi denying rumours of him wanting a new deal and taking a little pot shot at Barca's Vice president of 'Economic and Strategic Area'. Some rumours going around about Rossell being open to the idea of selling him as well. Wonder what FCBarca's take on this is?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...lks-are-due-with-lionel-messi-over-a-new-deal
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...el-messi-dismisses-barcelona-contract-rumours
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...lks-are-due-with-lionel-messi-over-a-new-deal
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...el-messi-dismisses-barcelona-contract-rumours
Yeah, you could see that one coming 10 days ago when Faus (Rosell's VP) made the idiotic comments to RAC1 himself
First Cruyff then Pep and now Leo - what legends of the club won't be undone by this board? I'd merely like to point out that I saw this coming more than 4 years ago, Rosell was going to undo everything Laporta had done and sink the club back to it's up/down past, fraught with idiocy within management and at the expense of the footballing ideals. Club members should oust Rosell with a no confidence vote
First Cruyff then Pep and now Leo - what legends of the club won't be undone by this board? I'd merely like to point out that I saw this coming more than 4 years ago, Rosell was going to undo everything Laporta had done and sink the club back to it's up/down past, fraught with idiocy within management and at the expense of the footballing ideals. Club members should oust Rosell with a no confidence vote
The great Barca/Messi myth is that, "Messi doesn't ask for more money - he doesn't have to ask, we give him new contracts because he's the best in the world."
I'm pretty sure Rosell sent Faus out to take the flak because the negotiation this time around isn's so easy as matching Ronaldo's payrise + a few Euros more. The Neymar deal is the complication. Rossel's already done his, "Messi must be the best paid, because he's the best," speech again this week.
It's a contract negotiation. Though of course Messi isn't interested in mere mundane issues like money. Allegedly.
Yeah, you called it a while back as well.
The tax man disagrees!
But in all seriousness - if they gave Neymar a bigger contract then Messi
That's asking for trouble.His negotiations are simple and he's never outwardly pressured the club regarding money or contracts. He's only ever said this is the club he wants to play for unlike the other player in the capital whose contract issues are far more dramatic. Best player in the world, as Rosell pointed out recently, should be the best paid. That seems a simple formula, CR had his bumper renewal and if it puts him ahead of Messi, the logic follows that Messi should see an increase as well
It's only been a month since the last communications director hire, if that was the advice given then perhaps it's time for a 4th one since admonishing a player like Messi publicly was always going to have only one outcome
If it is indeed merely a contract negotiation (Which I do not agree with) then it's done privately as has been the case with contracts for Barcelona players in the past under Laporta - without fanfare or controversy. Suddenly under Rosell, Valdes' renewal was played out in the press last season like a telenovela and now sees the player on his way out. Iniesta's renewal also played out in the press but fortunately with a positive outcome. To say nothing of all the other renewals for the other squad players or youth teamers - it's been highly scrutinized and a source of contention for fans & players. So, it would be suicidal to continue down a path like this, especially when considering a player like Messi
I'm sure the campaign in Spain against Messi and the lack of vigorous support from the board is in no small part at the heart of the anger between Leo & Rosell's men, as well
So are we signing this lad? Is he any good? Can we convert him into a box to box midfielder?
He can't do it on a cold windy night away at Stoke.
Is it true that Neymar is Rosell's new shiny toy? Hence why there's a lack of support for Messi?
Is it true that Neymar is Rosell's new shiny toy? Hence why there's a lack of support for Messi?
The tax man disagrees!
But in all seriousness - if they gave Neymar a bigger contract then Messi
The Neymar issue is potentially messy (sorry) enough that it should go in a different thread. Basically it's believed he's on €9m after tax (€20m net with Spanish tax) - which puts him at approx the right level in the Barca setup, along with players like Iniesta and comfortably behind Messi. However the rumour is strong that he (and his dad's company) was paid €40m in Brazil. That deal is now being investigated in Brazil and Spain, for different reasons.
Like I say though it's a messy enough topic that beyond the basic "it's potentially an issue in the Messi negotiation" it should be in the Neymar thread.
Rosell seems like a slimy ma, a business man more than a football man like our Ed.
I'm not sure Rosell's even that.
He won the election promising financial realism and debt reduction, youth development and continuity.
What he's actually done since seems to be entirely about damaging Laporta and doing it with such a level of obsession that he's damaging the club in the process. Baffling. The word that comes to mind when I think of him is "small".
It is almost like he trying to purge the club of all the previous administrations backers to strengthen his position, usual bullshit politics really. How popular is he with the fans right now, you think there is any chance of him being booted out before his term ends?
There are rumours he wants to make Neymar the main man at Barca and slowly push Messi out, do you think there is any truth in that? Surely it'd take Messi to merely come out and say Rossell is pushing him out and all the fans would revolt?
Didn't they also promise Abidal publicly he has a contract waiting for him when he starts playing again, when it came to it they didn't offer anything at all. Milked it for good publicity and recall Abidal speaking out about it.
Aye - I don't get this one. Surely it's a suicide mission to try and push Messi out at this stage. If there had been little between Neymar and Messi in terms of quality, then fair enough - even though you'd think Messi still would remain more popular among the fans. But it isn't the case - Messi is the best player in the world, Neymar is an upstart in comparison.
If he's really playing this game, he's stupidly arrogant - or so it would seem.
Rosell is such a shit. I'm surprised they haven't got rid of him yet...
Like any successful politician or corporate baron, he set up his regime by first tearing down every element of the old one and to further consolidate power & his mandate through revising club bylaws. Among which was one particular bylaw that he changed to make harder to implement a vote of no confidence - a measure he unsuccessfully used through proxy against Laporta when the percentage was much lower to ratify.
Sandy the corporate whore is a slick weasel
I thought it was common knowledge that Rosell's background was as a Nike Exec in Brasil which was at the root of a lot of concerns when the Neymar rumours to the club began. Some fans, including myself, figured it was part of the bigger plan of making Neymar & Brasilian talent figure more prominently at the club and rid the club of Pep & Cruyff loyalists which would presumably include Messi
I thought voters would revolt against W or Obama after the things they did/do but that didn't happen either. I suppose it's a blueprint on how to swindle the masses although Rosell hasn't employed quite as clever propaganda or press secretaries.
Absolutely and not to mention that a certain legend in Pep is no longer at the club, I'm certain, because of this board. Embarrassing from the club but yet nothing ultimately has come of it thus far. He's also trying to push through a much more expensive new construction plan for Camp Nou along with scheduling a ridiculous friendly in Qatar sometime this Spring. Would love to see a revolt against the board but we see how hard it is for people to rise up against the establishment in the UK & US all the time
It's getting worse, now former Presidential candidate and opponent of Laporta, Jordi Majó has come out with a scathing attack on Messi for his comments. It's already getting ugly
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