Pretty typical CL knockout performance from him lately.
He's solidified his legacy with the WC either way. Anything else now is a bonus.
He's solidified his legacy with the WC either way. Anything else now is a bonus.
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He needs a team around him now at his age, can't do it alone I think he will be back at Barca next year
Nothing to play for.
Passenger.
Passenger.
Predictable
Sadly for Messi he wasn't playing against some Australian League players this time around.
CL is top class football not just some prestigious tournament with lackluster football
I’d still take him at United on a 1 year deal for next season so he can try to win the PL
Barca has financial issues, they can't afford his massive wages, and he isn't gonna play for free.
I can see him going to the MLS next season to retire, he already won what he needed to complete his legacy.
You could see on his face at the end that he wasn't too fussed about losing this game.
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What is your problem?
Really wants an early holiday 
Fair play to him, couldn’t give less of a feck if he tried.
I’d just retire and enjoy the money.
Fair play to him, couldn’t give less of a feck if he tried.I’d just retire and enjoy the money.
Which would probably end as a Ronaldo situation. They really need to move on mentally.
What problem?
Did you not enjoy the performance that THE BEST player from the August 2021-December 2022 put on?
argentina beat France and Croatia some pretty good teams. World Cup solidified his legacy as the GOAT. Not CL which is worth far less and nobody else from psg showed up either.
Not to mention they have enough money issues, I don't think they can afford another 50m on the wage budget to bring Messi back
We all enjoyed the World Cup making anything else happening outside of those months a mere footnote.
Not really interested in a who's best argument, but the champions league is a much stronger competition than the World Cup.
I enjoy watching great sportsmen play yes. I also find it very odd behaviour to obsessively post about them as if they've personally offended you
Croatia and France are nowhere near as good as top CL teams.
The CL is the highest level competition in football where you have to perform against teams that have 11 elite players on the field
World Cup is for prestige,legacy and the history book.
The guy is a weirdo. Anyway shouldn’t Mbappe be carrying the can for their exit? He’s the main man, he’s in his prime, not Messi.
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Will win the ballon d'or for the 22/23 season by a landside even if he goes on vacations tomorrow til the end of the seasonHe has probably 4-5 months left in Europe. Just let it go
Well Cannavaro won it even if he was practically on vacation throughout the whole 2006 disregarding the month WC took place? Is there any difference really?
No.
Cannavaro did not deserve the BdO in 2006 either in my opinion. I would have given it to Ronaldinho again
I’d argue club football is in a very dire state right now. There isn’t a single club team right that seems like they’d be remembered beyond this season. A healthy France squad has more depth than any club team. I do agree club football is usually of a higher quality than international, but the gap this past year isn’t as big as it used to be.
usually yes I agree but club football is in a pretty crummy state right now whereas I’d argue international teams are getting better. The most recent World Cup was considered one of the best in a long time and the gap is definitely closing between club and NT.
The world Cup was not considered one of the best, the final was considered one of the best, and the innovation of the stoppage time was genuinely great, but it was largely an average world cup, with many of the tradional big teams underperforming and Morocco while impressive, were really boring.
Club football is still miles clear of international football
Seems not interested, his motivation is gone. Of course the only thing left for him to win was the world cup after achieving that there's no hunger anymore. He's was a passenger for PSG, and a liability defending he simply doesnt track back nor defend even slightly.
If arsenal win the Premier league over city they'll definitely be remembered.
Look at the teams France and Argentina faced to reach the final this year. Nowhere near the quality that anyone who reaches the CL final this year will play
Should not went to PSG that young. Money should not play so much for the Greatest all time.
He was 33 or 34 when he went there wasn't he? By that age most other players are bit part players, it's a testament to his longevity that he still could play for a top side at that age, it's not like he went there at the age neymar did
Well thanks for the honest opinion, for whatever it's worth I agree completely and I would have done the same. However the awards are political and arbitrary to a large extent and if one spends enough time following football one gets used to it to a certain extent unfortunately.
My opinion as regards to year 2006 to be specific is that there simply was a goal to award something to Zidane for whatever reason no matter how undeserved and that in the end they shuffled the board to the best of their ability to make it happen, it's that simple in the end as far as I'm concerned.
Ok you are right. But still think it was too young for him ...
He didn't have many other options, no Italian side could afford him, he wasn't going to real and couldn't stay at Barca, City had decided against taking him, maybe Chelsea or us, but I don't see it. Psg was basically his only option if he wanted to play at a top team, plus they were willing to allow him to prioritise argentina, which I imagine was a big factor
Exactly right. Which is why Ronaldo can score goals in the CL but can't score goals in the World Cup. Because the CL is more elite. Makes perfect sense.
And how Maguire can look great for England, James can be top goalscorer in a world cup and Moroccan players can reach the semi final.
That doesn't help you. It's possible to be good in both. Like Messi is one of the best players in World Cup history and one of the best players in Champions League history. Unfortunately, Ronaldo could only manage one of those feats.
But lots of players seem to be much better at an international level, hardly of those Moroccan players would get a kick for a CL semi final side, maguire looks championship level at us, yet looked great for England.
I don't know that I'd have Messi as I've of the best players in WC history, he had one very good tournament out of 4. Don't know what Ronaldo has to do with it, he plays for a team that historically have been pretty shit at World Cups. You're trying to say international football is harder but for plenty of players that's clearly not the case
Not true. There's just as many players that are good in the CL and bad in the WC/ international tournaments, like every England player from the 'golden generation' for example, a large proportion of whom were CL winners.
Sorry to burst your fantasy mate but Messi is clearly now one of the best players in WC history, he has 2 golden balls (which no one else has), he's played in 2 finals and scored 2 goals. He's also 4th on the list of goals in the competition all time.
Eusebio is an all time WC great. Cruyff is an all time WC great. Ronaldo has no excuses. Great in the CL, poor in the WC. That's his legacy, unfortunately for you.
It's not really unfortunate for me as I've said I don't particularly rate international football highly.
There definitely aren't juat as many players that are good in the CL and bad at the WC, the Australian team wouldn't get anywhere near a side that reached the last 16 in the champions league, most of the Moroccan players would get nowhere near a CL semi final team, half the sides that reached the last 16 have players that wouldn't get a game at a CL last 16 side. Clubs that's sign players off of the back of a great world cup almost inevitably lose out.
I'd argue Messi got his first golden ball based more off his name than anything else, someone like neuer would clearly have been more deserving. I don't think you'd have him as a top 10 world cup player, and that's just of the ones that I've seen, if you're going back all time probably not top 20, but it's irrelevant because it's his club performances that matter more, 7 games every 4 years, half of which are against teams that barely have a CL level player are not the way to judge a footballer
I love this guy jm99, man. I’m hella faded right now and he’s just hilarious, bro.