Music Linkin Park - Top 5

noodlehair said:
I just think it's a garbage stadium for something that cost so much to build and comes with extortionate ticket pricing 90% of the time. Been to a couple of gigs there and 4-5 football games.

Absolute ball ache to get to and from. Surrounding area looks like something from The Last of Us. Shite beers, shite prices and always seems to be some kind of stupidity/"we don't want to to pay for adequate staffing levels" related issue with actually getting in.

That said I'll still happily go if Germany isn't an option. Mainly Architects and Linkin Park are both on my top 5 want to see live list so it'd be pretty epic to see one support the other.

I missed Architects at download the other year where I just didn't bother getting a ticket or checking the line up, and could then hear them from my house clearly enough to make out which songs they were playing.
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Yuh it’s not fit for purpose, not at all for gigs but there is some romanticism to it cos it’s Wembley and I grew up there so maybe I’m a bit blinded. But yeah front row standing makes the day a lot better. No queues and nobody breathing down your neck or pushing in.
When did you last go? Cos they have jazzed it up a bit..

Blimey you lived that close and didn’t go to the goat of downloads. But yeah they were amazing. I always wondered how they’d translate to an open field. I think that’s where the change in sound has helped massively (even though I prefer the older stuff). The newer stuff is far better suited for stadiums/festivals.
 
So the album....it's, OK?

All the best songs are the ones they already released imo. Overflow seems like it could be really good but it takes over 2 minutes to get going and then changes it's mind and ends. Similar with Stained...there's a great song in there but it doesn't seem to quite find it's way out. They both end up being good/decent instead of great.

Casualty and that one that's just a bunch of letters I will happily never listen to again.

It's not bad I just expected a lot more from the reviews and stuff they'd released. If you hold it up against their first two albums it disintegrates into dust... and I don't mean in terms of the change of style more the strength of the songs and identity of the album as a whole.

It can't seem to decide what vibe it's trying to give off. One minute its shouting in your face and the next it's murmering to itself and where every song struggles to get past 3 minutes it switches so rapidly between the two I can't settle into either. There's pretty much zero compatability between any one song to the next. Felt like I spent the whole thing trying to adjust to what I was listening to rather than simply enjoying it. Like trying to shower while someone's fecking about constantly with the water temperature
 
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Ludens the Red said:
Yuh it’s not fit for purpose, not at all for gigs but there is some romanticism to it cos it’s Wembley and I grew up there so maybe I’m a bit blinded. But yeah front row standing makes the day a lot better. No queues and nobody breathing down your neck or pushing in.
When did you last go? Cos they have jazzed it up a bit..

Blimey you lived that close and didn’t go to the goat of downloads. But yeah they were amazing. I always wondered how they’d translate to an open field. I think that’s where the change in sound has helped massively (even though I prefer the older stuff). The newer stuff is far better suited for stadiums/festivals.
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I think last time was England vs Germsny at the Euros but there might have been another trip since.

That in itself was a mess. Not enough staff and they bottle necked everyone on the stairs for fecking ages to check people's vaccinations/covid tests. Everyone I went with mysteriously had covid a few days later.

I also think we were the only people in the stadium who weren't insane, insecure coke heads. It's the least safe/most on edge I've felt at any kind of large event and I was literally in the middle of a stadium riot at the previous Euros.

Yeah annoying with download. I was put off by them increasing the capacity. I knew Metallica were playing but I've seen them loads of times. I'd have got a day ticket for Architects and a few others if I'd known sooner though. Will probably do that for the Sunday next year. I'm past the age of needing the whole weekend festival experience now. Especially when my bed is only about 3 miles away!
 
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Outside of the 2 songs they released immediately, the rest of new album is uhh... underwhelming.
Is it a common practice to release the good ones first?
 
tenpoless said:
Outside of the 2 songs they released immediately, the rest of new album is uhh... underwhelming.
Is it a common practice to release the good ones first?
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Came here to post that.

The Emptiness Machine, Two Faced and Heavy Is the Crown are my three favorites so far. Not that the other ones are awful but not a big fan either so far. Emily has some nice parts in some songs, imo they've fit her in quite well but will take some time getting used to it.
 
tenpoless said:
Outside of the 2 songs they released immediately, the rest of new album is uhh... underwhelming.
Is it a common practice to release the good ones first?
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I mean everyone's taste is subjective, but I didn't get the impression over the last decades that the music industry is deliberately picking the worst songs as singles and music videos to promote the upcoming album. :lol:
 
The rest of the album shouldn't be so forgettable and meh by comparison though.

I think I was being generous in my previous assessment. I'm already bored with it after a couple of listens. Outside of the songs they've released already its completely forgettable and has no real mood or direction you can tie it down to.

Straight into 6th place (at best) of their releases for me, and that's not a good place for a Linkin Park album to be.

Hybrid Theory
Meteora
Reanimation
Minutes to Midnight
A Thousand Sun's

Early impression is these are all better albums (the first four by some distance) and that just leaves the stuff I didn't like at all. Which is what this basically is but with a few good songs that they seem to have put more soul and effort into than the others tacked on.
 
tenpoless said:
Outside of the 2 songs they released immediately, the rest of new album is uhh... underwhelming.
Is it a common practice to release the good ones first?
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RobinLFC said:
Came here to post that.

The Emptiness Machine, Two Faced and Heavy Is the Crown are my three favorites so far. Not that the other ones are awful but not a big fan either so far. Emily has some nice parts in some songs, imo they've fit her in quite well but will take some time getting used to it.
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So far it seems that way to me but can take me a while to enjoy songs.

Good things go I think I like.

The rest all kind of feel the same.

Emptiness machine is a banger.
 
The good songs are good, the weaker songs are bland and a bit boring. The slow emotional stuff doesn't really work for them on this record as it lacked emotion. They are best on their aggressive songs that has a bit of punk rock ish sound. Imo.
 
1988 said:
The good songs are good, the weaker songs are bland and a bit boring. The slow emotional stuff doesn't really work for them on this record as it lacked emotion. They are best on their aggressive songs that has a bit of punk rock ish sound. Imo.
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Yeah that's where I'm at. The slow songs aren't really emotional, just slow. Overflow is frustrating because I think all its missing is some emotion/feeling and it'd be a really great track.

All the stength in the album is in the songs with more energy and there just aren't enough of them. I get that we're never going to get Hybrid Theory/Meteora Linkin Park back, but the further they drift away from that the more generic and lethargic the music seems to come across.

And much as I don't mind Emily they've lost the emotional connection and feeling Chester used to bring to the less shouty songs.

I'll still be very excited to see them live though.
 
1988 said:
The good songs are good, the weaker songs are bland and a bit boring. The slow emotional stuff doesn't really work for them on this record as it lacked emotion. They are best on their aggressive songs that has a bit of punk rock ish sound. Imo.
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‘The Messenger’ is the perfect example of a slow emotional linkin park song. Such a good tune.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
‘The Messenger’ is the perfect example of a slow emotional linkin park song. Such a good tune.
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Yup. I think Chester was the key to those song. He just had that nerve and sadness. The Messenger is the perfect example. They allow his voice to just feel it. Even if it means going to the edge of his register.
 
Hate to say it but I don't like any of these songs except the first 2 singles. Not that I'd expect anything more from a band who peaked 20 years ago but eh
 
1988 said:
Yup. I think Chester was the key to those song. He just had that nerve and sadness. The Messenger is the perfect example. They allow his voice to just feel it. Even if it means going to the edge of his register.
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Absolutely. That rawness of his voice make the lyrics stand out even more.
 
My personal rankings of the songs.

Casualty
Two faced
Cut the bridge
IGYEIH
Heavy is the crown
Over each other
The emptiness machine

The rest seems bland imo.
 
Just had a listen. It's fine. A few good songs (mainly the singles) but ultimately a forgettable album. Good thing is that is pretty short.

Casualty is probably the worst Linkin Park song I've heard (I only listened from Hybrid Theory to Minutes to Midnight). But that song hurt my ears. Awful.
 
nimic said:
Good Things Go is growing on me.




Linkin Park fandom in a nutshell.
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I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan. I was during HT, Reanimation, Meteora. I only went back and listened to Minutes to Midnight recently. Haven't really heard and of the others. Are they with listening to?
 
Dirty Schwein said:
I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan. I was during HT, Reanimation, Meteora. I only went back and listened to Minutes to Midnight recently. Haven't really heard and of the others. Are they with listening to?
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I'm not the right person to ask, really, I skipped the last album entirely (never realized it came out).

I do have some songs I quite like from albums after Minutes to Midnight, though. Mind you, many of them are quite different from their first few albums. Some examples:















 
I've seen a lot of disappointed comments on Reddit that they should be headlining Download next year instead of Korn. I personally disagree. Instead of Sleep Token, sure, but Korn deserve their headlining spot.
 
nimic said:
Good Things Go is growing on me.




Linkin Park fandom in a nutshell.
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Grew up listening to a lot of punk so I'm really digging the punk esque sound. First time hearing Mike put some distortion to his voice which I thought was really awesome.

But I also really LOVE Bleed it out and Given up which also has that raw sound.

I think it's just down to what other sorts of music your into.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
I've seen a lot of disappointed comments on Reddit that they should be headlining Download next year instead of Korn. I personally disagree. Instead of Sleep Token, sure, but Korn deserve their headlining spot.
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I’m not much of a fan but Sleep Token are huge atm to be fair, and as much as I hate modern music these festivals can’t keep giving headline slots to the oldies.
 
Woodzy said:
I’m not much of a fan but Sleep Token are huge atm to be fair, and as much as I hate modern music these festivals can’t keep giving headline slots to the oldies.
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It just feels like a year or two too early. I'm not saying we should give it Slipknot or Iron Maiden again, but maybe a band that's been around for 10+ years.

I can guarantee they will draw a far smaller crowd than the other two headliners, despite having a lot more views on their YouTube videos.
 
Ok, been listening to it for a few days on runs and gym, have a better feel for it now. I think it's actually a decent album and the short run time helps with that. Although I have noticed the inhale the singer does after big moments and once you notice it, it's really annoying. Just edit that shit out man :lol: Also, my 3 favourite tracks feel like they sampled 3 of my favourite LP songs from the past, which is weird.

My track-list in order of favourite to least favourite:

Really like:

1. Heavy is the Crown (miles ahead of the rest, reminds me of Faint).
2. Emptiness Machine (catchy, probably because it was the first single, reminds me of Breaking the Habit).
3. Cut The Bridge (feels like Bleed It Out's relative).

Decent:

4. Over Each Other
5. Two Faced
6. Good Things Go
7. Stained

Shite to utter shite:

8. Overflow
9. IGYEIH
10. Casualty
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
I've seen a lot of disappointed comments on Reddit that they should be headlining Download next year instead of Korn. I personally disagree. Instead of Sleep Token, sure, but Korn deserve their headlining spot.
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I'll probably go on the Sunday to see Korn so yeah not having that. Would be annoying if they got shifted out to fit LP in when LP already have their own tour.

About 50% of the Download line up feels like the same bands I used to see there 15 years ago. The other 50% I've never heard of due to not being cool anymore.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Ok, been listening to it for a few days on runs and gym, have a better feel for it now. I think it's actually a decent album and the short run time helps with that. Although I have noticed the inhale the singer does after big moments and once you notice it, it's really annoying. Just edit that shit out man :lol: Also, my 3 favourite tracks feel like they sampled 3 of my favourite LP songs from the past, which is weird.
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Oh gosh, im now gonna get annoyed by the inhale thing, arent I

Also yeah, I think its a decent album. Emily really fits the new stuff. I remember hearing her try to do the older stuff, and it just sounded like a .... cover band or something
but she fits the new stuff and I like her voice and it blends so well with Mikes.
I enjoy the new album having heard it a few times.
 
noodlehair said:
It could be worse. One of my exes once forced (guilted) me to go see Celine Dion.
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Oooof. Though to be fair, I'm not really looking forward to this one either. She's very flat when imitating Chester, but that touring guitarist...he's such a huge cringe monster it's so off putting :lol:

Also the prices for the seats were ridiculous, far more than the Oasis ones. No doubt they'll escape the scrutiny though.
 
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