Let's talk 'keepers: who do we buy and why?

Hate this clown. Keeps making mistakes that would be poor by amateurs, much less pros.

The rate he is going we might have to give the academy lads a go.
 
He's been doing okay this season, his underlying stats are around the average so not great but not bad as well. That's the issue for me, we've been downright BAD is other areas, especially up front and midfield as you've said.
Hmm.

I presume you're watching this first half? Though as this is fairly standard fare, and you've classed that level as 'okay', then I guess this half is just another that's 'not great but not bad'. ;)

We need a keeper upgrade so badly. This is an area that's crying out for it every bit as much as the others. This just can't go on, any more than having Hojlund first choice #9, Dalot first choice RWB... Onana first choice GK is just as bad as those.
 
I'd sub on the Polish kid thats on the bench over the clown we have in goal right now. Onana is by far the worst keeper we have had in my 30+ years supporting the club.
You haven't watched much so.

I'm losing patience, don't get me wrong, but there's been some shockers.
 
To think people wanted rid if DeGea for this guy. Transform our team they said. Yeah it has, its made us even more shocking.

I really wanted to give Onana the benefit of the doubt but that’s it, I’m done with him. Should be the first one out the door.

Then go back to DeGea and beg him to come back. Either that or Trafford I guess.
De Gea deserves better than to come back to this shit show.

Transform the team is just some bullcrap buzzword that pretencious people like to throw about around here.
 
Current PL keepers who would probably be better (not including big club starters)

Travers, Flekken, Verbruggen, Leno, Kelleher, Pope, Sels, Bazunu, Vicario, Sa

James Trafford
 
I really liked Onana but this run of form since Amorim has come in has been too far for me.

Let’s go and get Restes or Chevalier. Both are commanding and have great goalkeeping technique.
 
We're skint obviously so at this point I'm hoping there's a solid, experienced keeper not playing somewhere that can come in and do a job for a year on loan next season.
 
#1 priority. I don't think we can wait until summer to make the change.
 
Anyone mention Zion Suzuki? Watched him a few times for Parma this season and is an excellent shot stopper, believe he might have been linked with us 3-4 years ago

Complete opposite to Onana and is commending in his own area. Worth a go since he won't cost over the odds either
 
GK has to be the priority in the summer. Anyone who has played as a defender knows how having confidence in the man between the sticks changes how you play. When you have someone who can drop a clanger at any moment in net, it changes how you play, you second guess yourself and i think at the moment the team look like they expect to concede so the whole team is 15-20 yards deeper than they should be
 
Anyone mention Zion Suzuki? Watched him a few times for Parma this season and is an excellent shot stopper, believe he might have been linked with us 3-4 years ago

Complete opposite to Onana and is commending in his own area. Worth a go since he won't cost over the odds either
He was linked at the same time as Onana was linked to us iirc. Almost makes me think Suzuki was our scouts finding and Erik pushed for Onana…
 
Think GK plays a huge difference between a draw and a loss.

GK has to be a priority. I will take Kovar back now.
 
If we had Qatari ownership we would be looking at the likes of Donnarumma.

With our ownership we will end up with Meslier
 
Onana feels like he's in that spiral of low confidence/weaknesses to his game/constant errors

How much could we sell him for?

I'd say his stock is probably decent in Italy but you are dreaming if you think you are getting 30-40m I reckon
 
We're skint obviously so at this point I'm hoping there's a solid, experienced keeper not playing somewhere that can come in and do a job for a year on loan next season.
Yep we're not spending much on a keeper, so someone like Pope if Trafford goes to Newcastle. I like the Danish lad at Leicester but they'd probably want more than we can afford.
 
Apparently Maignan is available for the summer, he will be 30 by then but he is clearly better than Onana.
 
Onana feels like he's in that spiral of low confidence/weaknesses to his game/constant errors

How much could we sell him for?

I'd say his stock is probably decent in Italy but you are dreaming if you think you are getting 30-40m I reckon

£10m max. Most likely scenario is he gets loaned out, and hopefully can rebuild his reputation and then someone might buy him.

He’s been appalling, but his errors will always get highlighted more at United than anywhere else.
 
Wouldn’t be surprised to see us go for Leicester’s keeper. Good with his feet and at least slightly less prone to howlers. Probably not mega expensive when they relegated either.
 
Kepa? He seems to have matured nicely since his Chelsea days and will only have a year on his contract at Chelsea when his loan at Bournemouth is done.
 
I am sure we can spend no more than 20m to get a decent one than we play now.
 
I really liked Onana but this run of form since Amorim has come in has been too far for me.

Let’s go and get Restes or Chevalier. Both are commanding and have great goalkeeping technique.
Heard bits about him from my mate, guy at Lille? What’s his pros cons? I must admit I don’t watch French league football.
 
James Trafford is the obvious one but Burnley paid 15m for him and he's been a beast. They've also got an absurd defensive record in the championship this season so he'd cost a small fortune.

As another poster mentioned Chevalier would be good but unfortunately most reports are that PSG want him to replace Donnaruma.
 
I am not sure if it was his fault for the 1st goal. But these mishaps and errors are happening too frequently. We are not that bad defensively I think but the Onana errors are making us look a lot worse than what we are.

Even an older keeper with 2-3 good years left on a cheap price is acceptable for now given we have to spend so much on recruitment.
 
I'd be happy with someone like Trafford and Pope if it meant we could bring in more players.

We blew silly money on Onana and even on form he's unconvincing with his style of parrying the ball back where it came.

Not sure I would go for Ramsdale. He may be available and a talented stopper, but during his time at Arsenal his confidence was shot to pieces (not really his fault), but at United the pressure will be higher.
 
I'd be happy with someone like Trafford and Pope if it meant we could bring in more players.
To be fair, signing Trafford or Pope will not maximize our budget per se.

Newcastle United aren't going to let the latter leave for cheap, especially if he wants to join Manchester United (following the Dan Ashworth kerfuffle). The former is on course to concede the fewest goals in the history of The Championship, and cost £15-19 million to begin with, so we will have to spend a pretty penny to acquire him.

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Serviceable goalkeepers can be acquired for relative peanuts. Hradecký was a free transfer at Bayer Leverkusen, Sommer was also a free transfer at Internazionale, Kepa is on loan at Bournemouth — these goalkeepers did not cost much, and are decent value relative to investment. Onana himself was a free transfer to Internazionale, and then, just one year later, we decided to sign him for £45 million or so!

Someone who is serviceable (i.e., not a near-constant liability, first and foremost) should do for us in the near term, given the stage of our sporting project.

On a side note, perhaps we could emply these sorts of mechanisms to kick the can down the road and maximize our budget for the upcoming summer transfer window...
Arsenal have completed the signing of Brentford goalkeeper David Raya on an initial £3m loan deal with a £27m option to buy next summer.
Juan Musso will join Atlético on loan deal for €1.5m loan fee plus €7m buy option clause from Atalanta.
OGC Nice is pleased to record the arrival of goalkeeper Marcin Bulka (Paris SG), on loan this season with an option to buy.
 
To be fair, signing Trafford or Pope will not maximize our budget per se.

Newcastle United aren't going to let the latter leave for cheap, especially if he wants to join Manchester United (following the Dan Ashworth kerfuffle). The former is on course to concede the fewest goals in the history of The Championship, and cost £15-19 million to begin with, so we will have to spend a pretty penny to acquire him.

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Serviceable goalkeepers can be acquired for relative peanuts. Hradecký was a free transfer at Bayer Leverkusen, Sommer was also a free transfer at Internazionale, Kepa is on loan at Bournemouth — these goalkeepers did not cost much, and are decent value relative to investment. Onana himself was a free transfer to Internazionale, and then, just one year later, we decided to sign him for £45 million or so!

Someone who is serviceable (i.e., not a near-constant liability, first and foremost) should do for us in the near term, given the stage of our sporting project.

On a side note, perhaps we could emply these sorts of mechanisms to kick the can down the road and maximize our budget for the upcoming summer transfer window...
Yeah, we need to be on the look out for Number 2's who are at a high level and have done well. Get them on loan promising game time with obligation/option to buy. I personally would get Kovar back, I think our buy back is below 20m? Has done well the limited times I've seen him and he's good on the ball too.
 
Would Kovar be an option bringing him back from Leverkusen?
 
Has there even been reports we're targeting a goalie. Truth is we can build a fairly decent side but with a goalie like Onana we could be 10-12 points behind were we should be.
 
Whoever is next needs to be the guy. Maignan would be my choice but we should consider Bounou, Simon and Martinez too.