Took the words right out of my mouth.
Let's all laugh at England (again)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) get the depressing job of reviewing United's 3-0 loss at Old Trafford to Liverpool. They discuss what went wrong, Casemiro's day to forget, and the pressure now on Erik Ten Hag. They also take some time to give McTominay a proper farewell, and give their overall thoughts on the Summer Transfer Window.
But the issue people seem to have is with the fans, not the media, isn't it? And even the media talk us up beforehand and then slam us at the competition. It seems to me that most of the posts in this thread knocking England have spoken about the entitled fans and not the media, which is weird (this time around, anyway) as I think the majority were skeptical and there was very little 'it's coming home' tubthumping.
Why do people get these stupid tattoos of things before they happen as if they’re so sure that it will happen? It was like when some City fan got a tattoo that said that they were going to be champions league winners in 2011 when they didn’t even manage to qualify for the champions league the previous season, or something like that
100% media for me. Living in wales and having to put up with you winning it and it being in everyone’s faces for infinity would be too much. Bad enough while the euros are on, never mind for ever after if you won it
People are dumb and they can be overconfident. When United won the double in 2008 I double checked when I woke up the next morning to make sure it wasn't a dream. But some people already think of their dream as a reality ahead of time.
Personally my issue is with the media - it’s through them that the fans become wild with hysteria. Its constantly over social media.
There was a lot of ‘it’s coming home’ from my perspective but it was in a more sarcastic way than before as the majority knew England were getting extremely lucky.
Like I said I find most England fans fine and realistic, there’s just some that get caught up in the hype year after year and they tend to be much louder than the others.
They’re usually topless, bald, shite tattoos and reside for 6 months at a time in Benidorm.
Both absolutely fair posts! If it's any consolation I can't stand the knuckle dragging Ingerlund contingent either!
Besides diving Sterling - who’s gone now - and Foden. The players in the England team seems like decent guys. I got all respect for them taking so much shit from the fans, the media and the tabloids.
It’s all the things surrounding England I dislike. The booing of anthems is just so disrespectful imo. I’ve heard all the arguments of why you boo other national anthems so please dont bother telling me why it’s all grand, but for me football in international tournaments is about joy and uniting the World/Europe. Many England fans just gets too tribal.
When football is used as an excuse for shit/vile behaviour it’s no longer football for me. Like throwing bottles at a bus with families/children inside. On top of that you got lots of brawls, storming Wembley, lasering opponents in penalty shootouts, booing anthems + the greater national tendencies like Brexit.
It’s just hard not to think bad of English fans in general, but of course much of this is a reflection of a society in shambles, disguised as fandom. You just don’t see the same tendencies on the same scale with German fans. (A country with 1,5 x the population than England).
Cudos to all you normal ones and respectful ones out there. Has to be said. The empty barrels are the ones that make the most noise.
It’s all the things surrounding England I dislike. The booing of anthems is just so disrespectful imo. I’ve heard all the arguments of why you boo other national anthems so please dont bother telling me why it’s all grand, but for me football in international tournaments is about joy and uniting the World/Europe. Many England fans just gets too tribal.
When football is used as an excuse for shit/vile behaviour it’s no longer football for me. Like throwing bottles at a bus with families/children inside. On top of that you got lots of brawls, storming Wembley, lasering opponents in penalty shootouts, booing anthems + the greater national tendencies like Brexit.
It’s just hard not to think bad of English fans in general, but of course much of this is a reflection of a society in shambles, disguised as fandom. You just don’t see the same tendencies on the same scale with German fans. (A country with 1,5 x the population than England).
Cudos to all you normal ones and respectful ones out there. Has to be said. The empty barrels are the ones that make the most noise.
I think the bolded bit is the thing - we have a small (but not insignificant) section of the fanbase that does shitty, obnoxious things loudly. It tarnishes the rest. I do think all countries have their fair share of arsehole fans, though.