Let’s sign Gareth Bale

I can’t remember all this crying about being too old or made of glass when we signed rvp for a season, and he arguably won us the league.

I agree we should concentrate on youth but we also need established players to bring the youth on, sadly we havnt got any world class established players already here.

If we only sign youngsters and rely on our youth I fear we’re up shit creek without a paddle next year
 
If we can get him on loan then I'm ok with that. A permanent transfer is a definite no though, even if he did prove to be successful here on loan.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
I can’t remember all this crying about being too old or made of glass when we signed rvp for a season, and he arguably won us the league.

I agree we should concentrate on youth but we also need established players to bring the youth on, sadly we havnt got any world class established players already here.

If we only sign youngsters and rely on our youth I fear we’re up shit creek without a paddle next year
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He had an injury free season a year before we signed him. He was the best player in that season also. Moreover, he had won nothing hence was hungry to win something at a top club before retiring.

This is quite different from Bale who's been unfit for a while now and has lacked the hunger to win anything else except to take home his huge pay.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
I can’t remember all this crying about being too old or made of glass when we signed rvp for a season, and he arguably won us the league.

I agree we should concentrate on youth but we also need established players to bring the youth on, sadly we havnt got any world class established players already here.

If we only sign youngsters and rely on our youth I fear we’re up shit creek without a paddle next year
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RvP was desperate to play for us. Bale couldn't be more disdainful towards us if he tried.
 
Rendezvous with Ronaldo said:
"It's cheap"

Not when you don't own the asset, it's not. If you loan him and fail to get top four (a strong possibility, given he's on the decline) it's literally wasted money with zero upside.
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Opportunity cost, people!
Zlatan 7 said:
I can’t remember all this crying about being too old or made of glass when we signed rvp for a season, and he arguably won us the league.

I agree we should concentrate on youth but we also need established players to bring the youth on, sadly we havnt got any world class established players already here.

If we only sign youngsters and rely on our youth I fear we’re up shit creek without a paddle next year
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Their respective careers were at completely different junctions.
 
Kaglish10 said:
He had an injury free season a year before we signed him. He was the best player in that season also. Moreover, he had won nothing hence was hungry to win something at a top club before retiring.

This is quite different from Bale who's been unfit for a while now and has lacked the hunger to win anything else except to take home his huge pay.
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And how do you know bale has lacked the hunger to win anything other than take home his huge pay? You’re simply making that up.

He scored one of the best champions league final goals a season ago, his injury record is not as bad as what rvp was. People are just making things up here I’m sure
 
The only deal that any team should consider is a one year loan with Madrid paying a large portion of his wages, they are in essentially same position we are in with Sanchez.
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
RvP was desperate to play for us. Bale couldn't be more disdainful towards us if he tried.
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He wasn’t desperate to play for us at all, he had plenty of seasons prior where he could have pushed for a move, he just wanted to win something. There’s no way on earth rvp would move to us in this day and age, he’d be jumping ship tonliverpool or Man City, nothing to do with wanting to play for United.
 
sherrinford said:
He’s not a great fit for a typical right wing role anymore though - he certainly doesn’t have the stomach for tracking fullbacks on the run anymore. He would need the kind of freedom afforded to Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Hazard from a wide position.

He wouldn’t compliment Martial being deployed on the other side of the pitch either - you can’t allow both of them that kind of luxury and asking either of them to put in the requisite work would severely hamper their effectiveness. If Daniel James is the workhorse he’s made out to be perhaps he could provide that balance.
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Has DJ played on Right for Swansea or Wales? I think we're bringing him for competing spots with Martial I think. Also if we get Awb, defensively we are solid on the right side. Part of me thinks the Bale situation is blown out of proportion. It's hard to perform when 60k fans boo every touch of yours. Real madrid is a cess pit. The man still has pace and quality.
 
If we try for Sancho/Pepe first and can't get them, or if Sancho wants to stay for one more year, then we should go for Bale on loan. I don't want to start the season with Lingard and Mata out wide, or heaping unnecessary pressure on James.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
How do you know this? Bale has tried to make it work in Madrid, turning us down to stay there can’t be held against him
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have you clocked some of the things his agent has said about us in previous seasons when we have been linked with him? If not, you should google.

And then there's the fact that he would seemingly prefer to stay and rot on Madrid's bench rather than move anywhere else - it's not exactly screaming that his heart would be in the move is it?

Zlatan 7 said:
He wasn’t desperate to play for us at all, he had plenty of seasons prior where he could have pushed for a move, he just wanted to win something. There’s no way on earth rvp would move to us in this day and age, he’d be jumping ship tonliverpool or Man City, nothing to do with wanting to play for United.
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Well yeah, you'll find that most players are motivated by the desire to win trophies. But I'm talking about the barely disguised glee he had at being able to play for Ferguson, and alongside the likes of Scholes and Giggs. Not to mention when he talked about 'the little kid' in him telling him to join United. That was palpable.
 
willhse456 said:
If we try for Sancho/Pepe first and can't get them, or if Sancho wants to stay for one more year, then we should go for Bale on loan. I don't want to start the season with Lingard and Mata out wide, or heaping unnecessary pressure on James.
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My thoughts exactly mate, we can’t expect James to come in and be a main starter off the bat, these guys need people to look upto and to take the pressure off them, it’s the same situation with rashford and heaping pressure on him.

Getting bale on loan would be a steal imo
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
have you clocked some of the things his agent has said about us in previous seasons when we have been linked with him? If not, you should google.

And then there's the fact that he would seemingly prefer to stay and rot on Madrid's bench rather than move anywhere else - it's not exactly screaming that his heart would be in the move is it?



Well yeah, you'll find that most players are motivated by the desire to win trophies. But I'm talking about the barely disguised glee he had at being able to play for Ferguson, and alongside the likes of Scholes and Giggs. Not to mention when he talked about 'the little kid' in him telling him to join United. That was palpable.
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Personally I don’t listen to the shit spouted by agents and managers around transfers. No one here knows what bale wants or thinks. You certainly can’t go by agent quotes when all they want is money.

Does bale want to sit and rot on the bench or fight for his place in a 4 tines champions league winning team, that he more than contributed to?
How on earth can you know this?
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Personally I don’t listen to the shit spouted by agents and managers around transfers. No one here knows what bale wants or thinks. You certainly can’t go by agent quotes when all they want is money.

Does bale want to sit and rot on the bench or fight for his place in a 4 tines champions league winning team, that he more than contributed to?
How on earth can you know this?
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You are clearly very emotionally invested in Gareth Bale, and I have a lawn that isn't going to mow itself, so I'll tactfully withdraw and leave you to your Bale-based delusions.
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
have you clocked some of the things his agent has said about us in previous seasons when we have been linked with him? If not, you should google.

And then there's the fact that he would seemingly prefer to stay and rot on Madrid's bench rather than move anywhere else - it's not exactly screaming that his heart would be in the move is it?
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Exactly! he'd only come if forced even on loan his head will still be wishing it was in Madrid's. His heart won't be in for the fight at United. Be another shirt seller move by Ed and that's why I think it'll happen. Ugh!
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
You’re missing the point that a possible loan move is what is being discussed, the wages & transfer fee of Bruno Fernandez would be miles higher than Bale wages for example.

As for he’s injured a lot, as I pointed out above, he played 42 games last season.

I think we’d be daft in our position to turn it down if Bale wants it, if he’s reluctant then we’d be daft to go with it.
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It’s a Sanchez type signing in terms of age and perhaps being a touch past their best but I too think we’d be daft to pass on this one. He guarantees goals and could really help James’ development. Like for like players with pace and power, we’d immediately become a threat to anyone with Bale.
 
I guess Real Madrid regret not selling Bale to us last year or the year before. They are not in a good situation now.
 
Depending on what the loan deal is and how much we would have to pay him. If he can get goals for us and win us important games, then yes. I'm just afraid he would miss too many games through injury.
 
Bale in to replace Lukaku as our number 9?

Cant see Bale wanting to be a winger for us in the PL. Too much running and tracking back. Hes always said he wants to play more central.
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
Aaah, you're Welsh. It all makes sense now :p
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:) haha.

I do have a soft spot for him, he’s done wonders for us and I’ve seen first hand how he can carry a team and instil confidence in those around him. I know maybe his better years are behind him but if he can bring a few of our youngsters on, take the heat off them a bit, score is a few goals I really struggle to see why it would be such a bad move if it’s only a loan.
 
MattyB1986 said:
Exactly! he'd only come if forced even on loan his head will still be wishing it was in Madrid's. His heart won't be in for the fight at United. Be another shirt seller move by Ed and that's why I think it'll happen. Ugh!
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I would prefer David Brooks. We very much need a proper right winger type.
Bale could be an expensive gamble. The last thing we need now.
 
Do not want at all, even on loan. He wants to be here even less than that rat faced fecker we signed from Madrid. Bad deal in every possible way.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
And how do you know bale has lacked the hunger to win anything other than take home his huge pay? You’re simply making that up.

He scored one of the best champions league final goals a season ago, his injury record is not as bad as what rvp was. People are just making things up here I’m sure
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That's what he's been saying. He doesn't mind to sit on the bench at Madrid as long as he takes home his huge pay.

Per adventure he found himself on a big occasion like the CL final when he came on from the bench, of course he was going to work hard to win it however if we were to have him during the group stages, he wouldn't be bothered because he's already won it all.

And yes, his injury record is worse than RVP when we were interested in him. Rvp had an injury free season before he came to Manutd. That can't be said for Bale who's been a crock since forever.
 
We need to get rid of him. He is no longer good enough for RM. However this season he's not been hit by injuries that much.

He would be perfect for United. Gets to be the biggest star in the team. Is going to play Europa League and is going to fight for the nr. 4. spot in premier league. I think he can help United secure 4th. spot and do well in Europa League.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
:) haha.

I do have a soft spot for him, he’s done wonders for us and I’ve seen first hand how he can carry a team and instil confidence in those around him. I know maybe his better years are behind him but if he can bring a few of our youngsters on, take the heat off them a bit, score is a few goals I really struggle to see why it would be such a bad move if it’s only a loan.
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In terms of raw ability I would love to see him in a United shirt. I've thought for years that he was the very definition of a 'United' player. I'd even take a risk on his injury problems. I'll freely admit to being butthurt over his seeming complete disinterest in joining us though.

I'll give you this though - in spite of my better judgement I would defo still have a twitch in the old downstairs dept to see him in full flight in a United shirt.
 
If we look back at it properly this guy was deemed to be a bad luck charm back in the day when Spurs couldn’t win a game with him in the team :lol: he’s done very very well to even earn anything near to 600k a week. Round of applause for the commitment alone. But he’s a walking injury list now. Especially back in the prem.
 
Beaucoup said:
If the club think this is a signing to excite the fans, then they are truly out of touch.
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You say that, but he would most likely be the #1 shirt seller at the club next season.

On paper, a club that’s finished 6th and plays Young and Smalling every week should be lapping up the idea of getting a serial CL winner. Without digging deeper of course.

If we were offered the chance to loan him, I’d be surprised if United said no
 
To me, only if the following conditions are true:

- He wants to be here to prove he is not finished. Do not even consider if he is forced to leave Madrid.
- 2-year loan, us taking 50% of wages with a logical loaning fee.
- He replaces A. Sanchez.
- Most important, he should be a bonus transfer and we should not rely on him. He should not affect our supposed transfer plan e.g. in the case we are able to buy Sancho someday.

In order to tempt Madrid, promise them additional bonuses based on his match appearances.
 
I'd say it would be brilliant if we could get him on a two year loan with the option to cancel after twelve months if he doesn't perform to the level required.

Bale is a fantastic player on his day so if we could get the best out of him we'd have a hell of a player, if we didn't then we could cut the stay short.
 
Did any of you watch him play recently?

He's lost his pace completely. How would he improve us?
 
ShamrockD said:
To me, only if the following conditions are true:

- He wants to be here to prove he is not finished. Do not even consider if he is forced to leave Madrid.
- 2-year loan, us taking 50% of wages with a logical loaning fee.
- He replaces A. Sanchez.
- Most important, he should be a bonus transfer and we should not rely on him. He should not affect our supposed transfer plan e.g. in the case we are able to buy Sancho someday.

In order to tempt Madrid, promise them additional bonuses based on his match appearances.
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He quite clearly is being forced out of Madrid though?! He's being treated like a complete ghost at the feast by Zidane and Madrid. And yet nobody is clamouring to sign him. He doesn't have any friends in Spain, he seemingly has few suitors despite his availability, he isn't pushing for any sort of move, he's the complete antithesis of the type of player we need to be gunning hard for.

The fact he's so unliked at Madrid is surely massive cause for alarm?
 
Jazz said:
Of course you would say this:lol:

United aren't the club for him. I would cry if we got him. It's totally wrong for us. He's done. Keep him at Madrid.
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It doesn't have to be United though.

Spurs would welcome him with open arms I guess.
 
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