Let’s sign Gareth Bale

bosnian_red said:
What would we achieve with 1 year of Bale paying him 2-300k a week? Serious question. Obviously improves on Lingard or whoever, but we're not winning the title with Messi let alone fecking Bale. I would just prioritize fixing CB, RB and the whole midfield if we can't get our main right wing targets. A team with the midfield and defence sorted once they blend together will take us a lot further and set us up better long term (and help Martial, Rashford and Pogba find more consistency over a season without a doubt) compared to sacrifice on those positions to get a stop gap in at right wing. Either way if we sort out our midfield and defence I think we'll get top 4 (or win the Europa League). With Bale here but without sorting out the defence, I dont think we do that. With Bale here and with us sorting out the midfield and defence, I don't think it would change anything significant in terms of league position.
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Sorry I'm confused, so us signing Bale on loan for 12 months paying him 250k a week will stop us from sorting out any other position? Have I read that correctly?

Why would us loaning a player for a year stop us from buying players for other positions? You are making zero sense mate.

What would Bale bring hmmm a bit of balance to our attack, freeing up the left hand side which at the moment is so lobsided because we have ZERO threat from the right, balance our play completely, give us another dimension when we attack? Plus a goal threat, good delivery, good free kick taker finally, just of the top of my head.

Mata looks like he is going, he is on what 150k a week or something, if not more, your point is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Also, yeah it would be a stop gap, it would be a MAJOR upgrade on Lingard, it would allow us 12 months to get back into the top 4 and we could go and buy say Sancho for 100m (or whatever) next summer.

I know this might sound crazy but paying Bale 250/300k a week for 12 months will not spend all of our 200/250m summer budger (crazy right).

If Lukaku goes for 60m to Inter, we could potentially have 300m to spend this summer in theory, I think I THINK we can afford we can afford it (give that Sanchez, Mata, Herrera, Valencia, Darmian, Rojo) will all be off the wage bill as well.

United will still purchase a CB, RB, CM and probably a CF if Lukaku goes irrespective of whether we buy Bale/Pepe/Brooks/Sancho or whoever for the right hand side.

Makes your point a little bit pointless
 
Martian Samuel referred to Bale and United very eloquently in one of his last articles.

Basically, we’re the problem. Not Bale. The thought of taking Bale is criticised because of our previous errors in the market (Sanchez, Matic, Falcao, Di Maria, Bastian). All expensive players that were either injured, unfit or shite. All of them expensive in their own way.

If United had been successful, and the narrative surrounding our transfer business was more positive, then Bale (in isolation) would be viewed a lot more positively than it has been.

Because he’s still very good, his fitness is improving and he’s bound to score goals in an attacking team (and I don’t know if that will be us just yet).

Basically, if the rest of our signings are largely young and exciting, and pre season is going well, bringing in Bale on some sort of deal would be seen as a catalyst for success. Especially if he were to complement a young star like Sancho.
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
Sorry I'm confused, so us signing Bale on loan for 12 months paying him 250k a week will stop us from sorting out any other position? Have I read that correctly?

Why would us loaning a player for a year stop us from buying players for other positions? You are making zero sense mate.

What would Bale bring hmmm a bit of balance to our attack, freeing up the left hand side which at the moment is so lobsided because we have ZERO threat from the right, balance our play completely, give us another dimension when we attack? Plus a goal threat, good delivery, good free kick taker finally, just of the top of my head.

Mata looks like he is going, he is on what 150k a week or something, if not more, your point is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Also, yeah it would be a stop gap, it would be a MAJOR upgrade on Lingard, it would allow us 12 months to get back into the top 4 and we could go and buy say Sancho for 100m (or whatever) next summer.

I know this might sound crazy but paying Bale 250/300k a week for 12 months will not spend all of our 200/250m summer budger (crazy right).

If Lukaku goes for 60m to Inter, we could potentially have 300m to spend this summer in theory, I think I THINK we can afford we can afford it (give that Sanchez, Mata, Herrera, Valencia, Darmian, Rojo) will all be off the wage bill as well.

United will still purchase a CB, RB, CM and probably a CF if Lukaku goes irrespective of whether we buy Bale/Pepe/Brooks/Sancho or whoever for the right hand side.

Makes your point a little bit pointless
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When you sign someone on loan, you don't just borrow them with no negotiation or financial committment. It's Bale. It's going to take loads of wages, a big signing on fee for the year/monthly fee, and a lot of negotiation. Plus the risk of upsetting the balance of the squad with a past it, overpriced big name player who is always injured and who doesn't have the hunger to improve anymore.

My point is that we would get top 4 regardless if Bale coming, if we sort out our midfield and defence. If we put a lot of focus on Bale, then who knows if it'll be at the cost of another position. Yeah, hypothetically, in football manager you can sign 6-7 players every window without any issue. Real life (especially Woodward and United) doesn't work like that though. We're most likely signing a right back, a midfielder and an attacker, true. What we need is also a CB (which there is a decent amount of talk saying we might not get one), and we need 2, maybe 3 midfielders depending on Pogba. That attacker needs to be a right winger, but it is of much more benefit to us if in the scenario where we only bring in 4-5 players, that we dont focus on expensive short term loans that can easily flop, and we fix the defence and mid (4 signings needed between those 2 areas). I'd be surprised if we make more than 4 signings who will a totally go into our starting 11. Anything past 4 is depth/young players like Daniel James.
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
Can someone help me out here, feel like I'm talking to a 7 year old, have a good weekend lad, I'm in to good a mood for a Friday to be dealing with you.

Btw, don't be calling me a liar
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I said your premise is a lie. It sounds like English is not your first language.
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
Its hypothetically FFS, jesus christ we might buy Brooks or Pepe or whoever, what I'm saying Einstein is if it is a choice of signing no RW or taking Bale on loan for a season, it will be a huge upgrade on what we currently have!

What part of it don't you understand? FML clueless
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You never said that though so now you are backtracking.
 
We should sign sanchez from arsenal on 600k a week sure if it's sanchez or nobody to play right wing we have lingard for God's sake anybody is better ???? Alexis Sanchez guarantees goals and he is free
 
Although we’ve been badly burnt with this type of signing before I do think Bale on loan for a year might be a clever move to help James. Both similar impact players and have the Welsh link and learning from Bale day in day out could be the best mentoring James will get.

Also could stay very strong in that position if James was utilised to keep Bale fresh every four or five games and gain the experience without the pressure of us relying on him too much while he makes the transition to the PL.
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
Sorry I'm confused, so us signing Bale on loan for 12 months paying him 250k a week will stop us from sorting out any other position? Have I read that correctly?

Why would us loaning a player for a year stop us from buying players for other positions? You are making zero sense mate.

What would Bale bring hmmm a bit of balance to our attack, freeing up the left hand side which at the moment is so lobsided because we have ZERO threat from the right, balance our play completely, give us another dimension when we attack? Plus a goal threat, good delivery, good free kick taker finally, just of the top of my head.

Mata looks like he is going, he is on what 150k a week or something, if not more, your point is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Also, yeah it would be a stop gap, it would be a MAJOR upgrade on Lingard, it would allow us 12 months to get back into the top 4 and we could go and buy say Sancho for 100m (or whatever) next summer.

I know this might sound crazy but paying Bale 250/300k a week for 12 months will not spend all of our 200/250m summer budger (crazy right).

If Lukaku goes for 60m to Inter, we could potentially have 300m to spend this summer in theory, I think I THINK we can afford we can afford it (give that Sanchez, Mata, Herrera, Valencia, Darmian, Rojo) will all be off the wage bill as well.

United will still purchase a CB, RB, CM and probably a CF if Lukaku goes irrespective of whether we buy Bale/Pepe/Brooks/Sancho or whoever for the right hand side.

Makes your point a little bit pointless
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If we loan Bale, we are not allowed to sign any other players for seven transfer windows.
 
Madrid want to get rid of Bale desperately we are in the power on the loan deal here not Madrid. We can dictate the terms to suit us if not we just don't loan him.
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
Sorry I'm confused, so us signing Bale on loan for 12 months paying him 250k a week will stop us from sorting out any other position? Have I read that correctly?

Why would us loaning a player for a year stop us from buying players for other positions? You are making zero sense mate.

What would Bale bring hmmm a bit of balance to our attack, freeing up the left hand side which at the moment is so lobsided because we have ZERO threat from the right, balance our play completely, give us another dimension when we attack? Plus a goal threat, good delivery, good free kick taker finally, just of the top of my head.

Mata looks like he is going, he is on what 150k a week or something, if not more, your point is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Also, yeah it would be a stop gap, it would be a MAJOR upgrade on Lingard, it would allow us 12 months to get back into the top 4 and we could go and buy say Sancho for 100m (or whatever) next summer.

I know this might sound crazy but paying Bale 250/300k a week for 12 months will not spend all of our 200/250m summer budger (crazy right).

If Lukaku goes for 60m to Inter, we could potentially have 300m to spend this summer in theory, I think I THINK we can afford we can afford it (give that Sanchez, Mata, Herrera, Valencia, Darmian, Rojo) will all be off the wage bill as well.

United will still purchase a CB, RB, CM and probably a CF if Lukaku goes irrespective of whether we buy Bale/Pepe/Brooks/Sancho or whoever for the right hand side.

Makes your point a little bit pointless
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You make a lot of good points here, but all of them are irrelevant if Bale spends half the season out injured, which is very, very likely.
 
We should get this done to the point where Bale turns up for his medical at OT, personal terms agreed, nice loan fee paid, and all his wages covered by us, then at the last moment just give Bale and Madrid the middle finger, and leave them with a big steaming mess to sort out.

Flaming cheek of it, Bale has never ever wanted to come here, and now he's a washed up crock, who Zidane clearly can't stand, we're supposed to welcome with open arms, Woody might be crap at most things transfer related, but he'd probably be pretty good at giving Madrid the run around with this.
 
I hope we string Madrid along all summer acting like we are going to take Bale off their hands and then at the last minute say we couldn't complete the paperwork because our fax machine is still broken.
 
settembrini said:
I hope we string Madrid along all summer acting like we are going to take Bale off their hands and then at the last minute say we couldn't complete the paperwork because our fax machine is still broken.
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Nice.You should be in charge of our transfers.

On a serious note, let's not do Madrid this favour. I'm sick of aging big money signings.
 
I wonder if he can still play fullback. He'd at least be an upgrade on Ashley Young.
 
No one else will take him on those wages. We have the power here on this potential loan deal.
 

Simon Mullock: "United, however, are prepared to take the 29-year-old on a season-long loan with an option to extend the deal by a further 12 months. That would enable Madrid to slash up to £50m off their wage bill over the course of the next two seasons.

And United are also be willing to pay a loan fee.."
 
United_We_Stand said:

Simon Mullock: "United, however, are prepared to take the 29-year-old on a season-long loan with an option to extend the deal by a further 12 months. That would enable Madrid to slash up to £50m off their wage bill over the course of the next two seasons.

And United are also be willing to pay a loan fee.."
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Feck, isn’t mullock meant to be reasonably reliable?
 
I’d take him on loan for sure*, proper no lose situation. Wouldn’t go anywhere near buying him.

*provided he himself wants the move, which I highly doubt, he seems desperate to stay in Madrid and if that’s the case even a loan would be a poor move.
 
United_We_Stand said:

Simon Mullock: "United, however, are prepared to take the 29-year-old on a season-long loan with an option to extend the deal by a further 12 months. That would enable Madrid to slash up to £50m off their wage bill over the course of the next two seasons.

And United are also be willing to pay a loan fee.."
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It's a no-brainer, if, if we could get 45 games out of him next season he'd score 30
 
Somehow this is inevitable, isn't it...

Death, taxes and Gareth "no-respect" Bale. And you know what is even more grating? We are helping Madrid lower their wage bill.

Still... Bale > Mata > the neighbor's ' kid > Lingard
 
Class of 63 said:
It's a no-brainer, if, if we could get 45 games out of him next season he'd score 30
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Signing Bale would be a massive mistake. We have to get away from signing other clubs has beens, players on the way down- Sanchez, Falco, etc. He's finished, injury prone. I dough he's played 45 games in the last 2 season. How many times has he turned us down? We should be signing players that will help us build a team, not sell jerseys.
 
What is the point of Bale? He's not a long term option regardless and he's on huge wages. He's injured a lot of the time too. Is it just to get United back into the top 4? Why can't United do that without Bale? Meanwhile it will help fund Madrid bid for Pogba and what is the reason for selling Pogba? Because he doesn't want to be at United right? In that case, why would you want Bale who has already rejected United? He's willing to sit on the bench at Madrid collecting his wages while Zidane openly wants him out because he likes living in Madrid. That's the character people want at United?
 
In Rainbows said:
What is the point of Bale? He's not a long term option regardless and he's on huge wages. He's injured a lot of the time too. Is it just to get United back into the top 4? Why can't United do that without Bale?
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You’re missing the point that a possible loan move is what is being discussed, the wages & transfer fee of Bruno Fernandez would be miles higher than Bale wages for example.

As for he’s injured a lot, as I pointed out above, he played 42 games last season.

I think we’d be daft in our position to turn it down if Bale wants it, if he’s reluctant then we’d be daft to go with it.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
You’re missing the point that a possible loan move is what is being discussed, the wages & transfer fee of Bruno Fernandez would be miles higher than Bale wages for example.

As for he’s injured a lot, as I pointed out above, he played 42 games last season.

I think we’d be daft in our position to turn it down if Bale wants it, if he’s reluctant then we’s be daft to go with it.
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A loan move where a player absolutely does not want to be at United. What is the point of selling Pogba then?
 
Mylock said:
He has proved time again that he doesn't want to sign for us, let's move on from signing players who only want to join us for the money.
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Absolutely, I’ve mentioned the same in absolutely ever post. Most important of all would be him actually wanting it.

As it’s a loan being discussed, he obviously wouldn’t be joining “for the money”.
 
Did you watch him for Wales yesterday? I have never seen him so ineffective in a match for Wales, he looks done to me.
 
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