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Less than a week to go.. Will United sign anyone else?
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Was unaware. As we were.
It is honestly baffling that United isn't in the market anymore
Do we really think our squad is complete with our dodgey fullbacks, I mean we are 1 serious injury from Valencia away from a total disaster on our right flank. Also it has been repeatdley said our leftside looks weak and could use strenghtening from either a fullback or winger and preferably both. Are we serioulsy convinced Martial, Rashford and Mkhitaryan will provide all the attacking threat we need to seriously compete this season whilst they were so dsiappointing last year ? I mean yes they started the season reasonably well but how confident are we that this will continue ? We also won our first 3 games in the PL last season and everyone was convinced we had a killer squad that needed no improvement, everything started going downhill after that and we finished 6th. We seriously can not have a repeat of that this season, are we really confident enough in our current squad to do that ?
I sure as hell ain't and therefore I'am really disappointed United is being so quite on the transfermarket whilst all our competitors are still trying to get massive deals done.
- Liverpool is working hard to get some big deals done: Oxlade, Lemar and they already signed Keita yesterday
- Man City is trying to move heaven and earth to get Sanchez on top of their already impressive summer transfers
- Chelsea is also trying for Oxlade and Lemar aswell as for Drinkwater, Llorenthe and Barkley
- Tottenham is trying to sign Aurier
Do we really think our squad is complete with our dodgey fullbacks, I mean we are 1 serious injury from Valencia away from a total disaster on our right flank. Also it has been repeatdley said our leftside looks weak and could use strenghtening from either a fullback or winger and preferably both. Are we serioulsy convinced Martial, Rashford and Mkhitaryan will provide all the attacking threat we need to seriously compete this season whilst they were so dsiappointing last year ? I mean yes they started the season reasonably well but how confident are we that this will continue ? We also won our first 3 games in the PL last season and everyone was convinced we had a killer squad that needed no improvement, everything started going downhill after that and we finished 6th. We seriously can not have a repeat of that this season, are we really confident enough in our current squad to do that ?
I sure as hell ain't and therefore I'am really disappointed United is being so quite on the transfermarket whilst all our competitors are still trying to get massive deals done.
Wanting us to sign someone because others are signing players is a ridiculous way to run a football club TBH.
It is. We do need a winger though regardless of what others around us do. Shame Salah failed for Mourinho already, he would have been a great signing.
Wanting to improve your team because other teams are improving theirs isn't that ridiculous tbf
Wanting to improve the team is not the same thing as wanting to buy someone. Subtle difference. I think the point is its only worth buying someone if the right person is available.
So because others are panic buying we should do the same? What happens if these deals don't go through, should we pull out of ours as well?
Yep i agree, just more of a surprise that there's no right person available considering our strength in the transfer market
No we shouldn't pull out of deals if there's a player available that would improve our squad
I can see both sides of this. I get where you are coming from - we need a wide player, either side would do in terms of giving us another option. Having said that we have signed three people, four if you count Ibra. Its not like we have been treading water, or refusing to spend. We've spent a decent wedge this summer and it comes on the back of several years of very high player turnover and considerable investment. I dont mean to imply we have spent enough and we shouldnt spend any more, necessarily, but more that I think we might have got to the stage where the constant chopping and changing in the first team is doing more harm than good (and this is why I dont automatically count Ibra, because Im most interested in this from the perspective of player turnover.)
I think three incoming players is manageable. Four is starting to stretch it. More than that is where you start to get those "bedding in" or "gelling" issues that have been so much discussed. Of course not everyone buys into that, but I do.
So that's why Im a bit ambivalent. Yes getting a top quality wide player would be great, but there could also be some downside - more importantly there is no point in just getting a wide player for the sake of it, I would much rather fight with what we have and get the right player next summer.
Muppet is dying.
In what world would you count Ibra as a fourth signing ?
He was our player last year, we didn't extend his contract than 2 months later we gave him a new deal. That is not signing a new player at all that is just a weird way of giving a player a new contract...
Only in the strictly literal sense, with his contract having expired and then us resigning him. But I dont count him - that's why I said 3.
Tbf, we have addressed several huge gaps in the squad early on in the window with extreme precision.
We do still lack 1 or 2 full backs, 1 backup winger, and 1 world class attacking player. But seems like the club has decided these options are not available for now (i.e. Perisic) / or we could give a chance to players at the club (i.e. Shaw at LB)/ or we are waiting for good players to be available in next window (i.e. Griezmann). In which case, its fair enough that we are not buying. Although I don't think we will win the league with what we have currently even though we have improved massively.
It's amazing how our inactivity late in the window will be cast as some sort of failure or lack of ambition.
We have a well-balanced, settled and motivated squad, whereas our rivals are dicking around on last minute acquisitions.
I keep saying it, but the additions of Matic and Lukaku are top-class, while we will generate substantial improvement from Martial, Mkhi, Rashford and Pogba.
And that's without getting to the addition of Zlatan for the second half of the season.
We're pretty well set and there's no point in spending money for the sake of it.
We have a well-balanced, settled and motivated squad, whereas our rivals are dicking around on last minute acquisitions.
I keep saying it, but the additions of Matic and Lukaku are top-class, while we will generate substantial improvement from Martial, Mkhi, Rashford and Pogba.
And that's without getting to the addition of Zlatan for the second half of the season.
We're pretty well set and there's no point in spending money for the sake of it.
We are not actively trying to panic buy because we, unlike those teams, have secured our targets before the season even began.
If our only targets were a striker, a DM and a CB than I'am very disappointed in what targets we wanted to sign. Our squad needs far more, we need atleast 1 more winger and probably also need 2 more fullbacks.
Very toothless in the market
Nah. We've got 5 players for the fullback positions. Beyond enough, numbers wise. What we most likely need is more quality, not more quantity.
I agree in general but few injuries can leave toothless and struggling across the fronts. IMO, this is the sole reason people are desperate for us to get someone for the vulnerable positions.
We are one or two injurries away from playing Young or Lingard as wingers or even fullbacks. Our best leftback option at the moment is fecking Daley Blind.
It is very early to say Lukaku and Matic have already substantially improved us and have made Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Rashford and Martial alot beter, it has been 3 games, we also won our first 3 games last year. We will see how long it all continues, especially when we get some really challenging teams like City or Liverpool to play against. This is still a squad with glaring weaknesses and vulnerabilities for me.
I'am not saying we haven't improved but there is ample room for additional improvement.
I also want that we sign someone but to sign someone just because of it, big no. If we can buy certain player who was mourinho first wish then yes, we must splash the cash, but to buy a player who was plan c or d and who will add only squad depth, is not something that i want.
About rivals; Peps signing policy is ridiculous. Having 25 proven players is possible only in city and psg, where owners don't think about profit, wage balance, future, etc... so i don't compare us with them.
Liverpool has short team , maybe they will lose coutinho so of course that they are buying. They must. Good choice by them. Arsenal doesn't know what they are doing, they are in the mess.
Conte having 50 players on contract, buying players after he spent 150 mil and saying( crying) "i don't have players" is just annoying.
Tottenham? I guess they don't have reputation to buy world class players and lewy doesn't want to spent big on others.
About rivals; Peps signing policy is ridiculous. Having 25 proven players is possible only in city and psg, where owners don't think about profit, wage balance, future, etc... so i don't compare us with them.
Liverpool has short team , maybe they will lose coutinho so of course that they are buying. They must. Good choice by them. Arsenal doesn't know what they are doing, they are in the mess.
Conte having 50 players on contract, buying players after he spent 150 mil and saying( crying) "i don't have players" is just annoying.
Tottenham? I guess they don't have reputation to buy world class players and lewy doesn't want to spent big on others.
When I say we need 2 more fullbacks I mean we need 2 good fullbacks who have the required quality to play well for us.
Imo we need someone as first choice leftback and we need someone to rotate with Valencia for the rightback. Darmian doesn't have the required quality, he is far too defensive and is just in general a poor footballer, Shaw has hardly played in the last 3 seasons, he is far too unreliable, that leaves us with Blind, who I rate as a back-up but not for starting every game.
The same on the wings, we have enough numbers for the wings. But I don't want to see Lingard or Young there and I remember very well that Martial and Rashford aren't the most reliable consistent performers either. So a bit more quality to have serious competition for those places would be a good thing.
I agree.
However, I have complained about our FBs since before the summer. A bit disappointing we haven't done anything.
I'm really annoyed we've not been in for Aurier who is quality and a bargain in this market. Half the price of walker yet twice as good. One injury to Tony V and we're screwed
Nah we got Darmian and Young...we'll be fine.
My thoughts exactly.
I don't think we'll sign anyone else and I'm ok with that. We've signed 2 starting 11 players. We don't need so many signings every window. Let last year's crop continue to develop and improve (as they obviously have been doing)
Stick Axel there and you'll not notice the difference. We've plenty of cover for left and right back. All we're missing is someone who can give us width on the left as an alternative to Martial or Rashford. Obviously no player available for a fee within our budget, so why would we be looking to buy someone just to appease the fans?
Completely agree. It's baffling that we still have Ashley Young in this squad and that Blind is our best left back right now. There are 40 or 50 players who could improve United and it's important we make at least one more squad signing before the window closes.
The fact Mourinho isn't interested in wingbacks just shows that he may be backing Tuanzebe if the time arrives.
Now that I wouldn't mind, looked good last season and rather trust in youth than experienced but rubbish players. Thing is though I think if Darmian, Young are fit he will play them and they both suck.
Lads we don't have the money. We have the highest net spend in the league and aren't backed by an oil nation. We are spending the money we just don't have more
I thought Darmian came on a lot last season, he might not be brilliant but he is adequate cover IMO.
Still very vulnerable at LB unless Shaw hit's the ground running which isn't guaranteed.
Right wing is also underwhelming.
Attack still could do with 1 more top player. Sanchez would be perfect. Adds a player that you can safely say will get 20+ goals.
Right wing is also underwhelming.
Attack still could do with 1 more top player. Sanchez would be perfect. Adds a player that you can safely say will get 20+ goals.
So much hyperbole in this thread. Our POTY last season isn't even getting into our team at the moment, we've quite clearly improved, yet City, Liverpool are still buying to covering their lack of improvement.
City scraped a draw against Everton and scrapped past bournemouth away (who've started terribly).
Liverpool still refuse to address their defence which is obviously the problem and it showed against Watford.
Chelsea are only buying now because they've faffed about all summer - we've brought in 4 players, including one of theirs!
Would it be nice to get a shiny new player, of course. Would I be worried or bothered if we didn't? Feck no.
City scraped a draw against Everton and scrapped past bournemouth away (who've started terribly).
Liverpool still refuse to address their defence which is obviously the problem and it showed against Watford.
Chelsea are only buying now because they've faffed about all summer - we've brought in 4 players, including one of theirs!
Would it be nice to get a shiny new player, of course. Would I be worried or bothered if we didn't? Feck no.
That's the problem for me and the reason we have struggled for past few seasons. Too many adequate players in reserve, our first 11 is a match for anyone in the league but our back up players are not. I don't see us finishing higher than 3rd with our current squad. Still that's a big improvement on 6th.
We wont and we probably should have. Feel we're still a little lacking a technically gifted right winger and our fullback options aren't great. We could have gone for more class on the ball this summer IMO. We've got a lot of power in this team for sure but hopefully we balance in out in future summers.
Anyway, if Martial and Rashford have cracking seasons, I'll be happy as I think we'll definitely challenge if that happens.
Anyway, if Martial and Rashford have cracking seasons, I'll be happy as I think we'll definitely challenge if that happens.
I severely doubt he is "twice" the player Walker is, and I severely doubt you have seen much of him. You have probably heard a lot about him, like me, but I reserve my judgement. New players (can) take a lot of time to gel in as we have seen many times, and who knows how he is suited for the game in England? Another reservation I have is that nobody else seems to be interested. Is it purely down to his ridiculous behavior of the past years, or is it down to doubting his ability or output? Who knows, but I guess it's mixture of the two. All the clubs would come knocking at 25M, but only Tottenham are interested (seemingly). There must be a reason for that, they are desperate and it's not like he is some unknown gem from the lower leagues in France. Every scout and manager knows about this player, yet few are sounding him out.
I've seen plenty of him to know he is better than walker and as good as Valencia thanks.
Ah deadline day. Here we go.
600 million to spend on 48 players we've been chasing all summer.
600 million to spend on 48 players we've been chasing all summer.
He's one of the best full backs in the league, if not the best.
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