Von Mistelroum
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If Madrid want him, he'll go there. That's really all there is to it. Best to focus on realistic targets. We should surely have an easy win with Todibo?
What, risk? 50m on an 18 year old CB, with one full season under his belt, in our position is a massive risk. I'm a gambler at heart, but it's obviously a huge risk.
What, risk? 50m on an 18 year old CB, with one full season under his belt, in our position is a massive risk. I'm a gambler at heart, but it's obviously a huge risk.
I want to go for wonderkids, I am massively on the Joao neves train, but he's been tested at a higher level and it's a different position. I just don't think at CB it would be wise when we've had such problems there, to go for someone so unproven. I reckon you end up paying that for Braithwaite and that's a better investment. If we can afford both, then I'm in agreement for signing him, but I reckon we'll be spending significantly less than £100m+ on CBs.No, the logic that we shouldn’t go for wonderkids but Madrid can just because they have a better overall squad. It’s how you end up toiling with mid table players that have “PL experience” but never develop into anything greater.
I’m not saying Yoro should be given the arm band and start every game for us instantly, but as a club we should be jumping on every opportunity available to sign world class young talent because it isn’t a regular occurence. Sure it’s “expensive and risky” in a traditional sense, but the reality is if he went to Madrid and developed like many expect you’ll just watch him make World XI’s and win countless trophies while wishing our own club had a player like that (not unlike Varane a decade ago).
Thanks, it just confirms to me that yoro + tosin is a better angle than yoro + TobidoAccording to the Premier league website Tosin won 57 aerial battle. When compared to United players that's only second to Maguire at 69. Meanwhile Evans had won 35 and Varane had won 21. According to whoscored his aerial won data is 3.2 which is slightly inferior to Maguire's at 3.3 but way better to Evans (1.5), Varane (1.2), and Lindelof (1.2). Leny Yoro is at 1.4 same as Todibo while Branthwaite is at 2.7
Thanks, it just confirms to me that yoro + tosin is a better angle than yoro + Tobido
He’s decent in the air, that’s about it, his positional play is very average, he doesn’t check his shoulder very often and he’s not great at playing out from the back, basically everything we don’t need as we’re already trying to move away from someone with the exact same skill set.
he’s overhyped like crazy
We aren't going to be attractive to the very best 'young stars'
No need to get your hopes up here lads
50 million back then was a greater amount than paying 50 million nowThis. We would be stupid to pay 50 or 60 million Everton would demand. He does not have any obvious qualities. He looks weak in duels, does not have amazing pace or strength. Lastly his passing ability is not good either. Stones had more things going for him when City signed him and everybody thought 50 million was too much for him.
Exactly - there's plenty of other stars unearthed, we need to rely on scouting and good decision makers we have brought in.If he has a 5% chance of going to Madrid, like Camavinga and Mbappe, he’s going to hold out for that. From his perspective playing another half a season at his boyhood club and waiting for his probable dream club is a no brainier
This. We would be stupid to pay 50 or 60 million Everton would demand. He does not have any obvious qualities. He looks weak in duels, does not have amazing pace or strength. Lastly his passing ability is not good either. Stones had more things going for him when City signed him and everybody thought 50 million was too much for him.
If Madrid don't want to pay Lille what they want we have a decent shot. There should be plenty of interest from other PL clubs and PSG though.We defo should pay up and make the offer. However Real Madrid rarely miss out on the man they want.
And there he goes to p*ss his career away. At least his grandkids will be sorted for life with the wages he'll get there.
Because playing for PSG is a complete waste of time.How do you know whether it is a bad career move? PSG have trusted youth down the years (Zaire Emery being a prime example)
"Down the years..." and gives an example from last season.How do you know whether it is a bad career move? PSG have trusted youth down the years (Zaire Emery being a prime example)
Why? Consistent CL football - to the R16 at the bare minimum over the past 5 years; best in class domestically; strongly exposure to increase likelihood of making the NT; handsomely paid...Because playing for PSG is a complete waste of time.
I just don't have any time for plastic clubs and B rate leagues.Why? Consistent CL football - to the R16 at the bare minimum over the past 5 years; best in class domestically; strongly exposure to increase likelihood of making the NT; handsomely paid...
An 18 year old joining the best team in his home country is hardly throwing his life away.
I just don't have any time for plastic clubs and B rate leagues.
Nah PSG are going to be a real force in a season or two. Their youth teams and younger players are absurdly good and they're finally moving away from the stupid idea of frontlines like Neymar - Messi - Mbappe.And there he goes to p*ss his career away. At least his grandkids will be sorted for life with the wages he'll get there.
The Premier League is a top league, but I don't care for the plastic clubs that exist in it.
So what leagues are you watching, since that statement disqualifies the PL.
Bit snobby when some of the best players in our league honed their craft in said B rate league.I just don't have any time for plastic clubs and B rate leagues.
He's already playing in a B rate league. Get out of there and test yourself in a proper league. Failing that, stay at Lille a bit longer. PSG is such a boring move.Bit snobby when some of the best players in our league honed their craft in said B rate league.
He's only 18 with one full season under his belt, moving to PSG gets him playing in a top team and in the CL. That's like saying no one should move to Celtic or Rangers, obviously they should.He's already playing in a B rate league. Get out of there and test yourself in a proper league. Failing that, stay at Lille a bit longer. PSG is such a boring move.
He can play Champions League football with Lille if they win their qualifier. Nobody with genuine ambition should move to Celtic or Rangers, but at least they are proper clubs, unlike PSG.He's only 18 with one full season under his belt, moving to PSG gets him playing in a top team and in the CL. That's like saying no one should move to Celtic or Rangers, obviously they should.
"Down the years..." and gives an example from last season.
One or two historical examples isn't the strongest evidence youth is trusted to be honest.I could have mentioned Kimpembe or Rabiot from years prior. Not sure why you imply last season does not count, Luis Enrique's reliance on Barcola, Beraldo and WZE is a clear sign youth is trusted at the club.
Type of signing Ineos need to be making if they are serious
I could have mentioned Kimpembe or Rabiot from years prior. Not sure why you imply last season does not count, Luis Enrique's reliance on Barcola, Beraldo and WZE is a clear sign youth is trusted at the club.
Agree. These are the types of no brainer transfers that you see clubs like Real normally make and then wonder "how do they do it" when Yoro is 20 years old bossing a CL semi final. We need to be jumping on obvious world class talents before they go to other big clubs and become unobtainnable.