And ever since he's said he regretted it
Leighton Baines
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And ever since he's said he regretted it
What does ball striking technique have to do with being dribbled past less often?
I was just pointing out the elements of ball striking you didn't have to repeat in your post is all as I already agreed with them. The rest I disagree with anyway.
You might do, but its factual that Evra has been dribbled more
My word
Sorry but you're a donkey. It's not like we've never bought a young talent for this kind of money. What is even more insane is buying Leighton Baines for £16m.
After the tremendous success of Fellaini, one may only start to wonder where he would go from Baines; Distin is a very decent CB, and Tim Howard knows his way around Old Trafford, so you save that tour. It's a mid-table team, and adjusting from a mid-table team to one that should be competing for all medals can be very tough. Baines is not the solution, imo. If he wasn't English, I doubt that many would think of him as a good enough player to improve on what we have.
25m for a player who has played about 3months in the premier league.
I bet you were one of those screaming at Moyes for not lashing out 35m on Herrera weren't you
Shaw's been a regular for Soton since last year which is special for a 17-18 years old especially in defense. He showed tremendous potential and will probably go all the way. You're just clutching at straws here.
£25 million for Shaw would be absolutely bat shit mental.
Baines is currently the best full-back in the league. Setting aside my personal opinion (don't want either), you really think £16m for the best in the league is 'more insane' than £25m for a promising youngster who's had one full season of senior football and only a few months in the premier league? And I'm not talking Neymar when I say promising youngster, either - just a full-back who's looked impressive for his age.
It's your opinion. Personally I think that Baines is one the best LB's in the league but a tad overrated, suspect defensively (showed it again against Chile) and a short term option to replace Evra (who's having a better season than him). I watched a lot of Shaw, and I think this kid will be a very good fullback. United spent a lot money on youngsters in the past 10 years and £25m for Shaw may look like a bargain in 3 or 4 years.
Considering we spent 2 million on the Da Silva twins, I don't think £25 million is a bargain.
Cant compare. The da silva twins were unknowns, from south america. Shaw already has quite a bit of hype on him and we always have to pay a premium on these english players.
I've seen worst deals
25m for Shaw is mental but it makes more sense then 16m for Baines. We're talking here of two players with absolutely no CL experience. The latter has yet to deliver the goods with England (which at 29 years of age he should do that). 9m is a small price for a very promising talent whose 10 years younger then Baines.
People talk as if Shaw is going to be a guaranteed world beater. I still think it's too early to say with him. £25 mill is an outrageous amount. We'd be expected to pay that if he was one of the best full backs around, I don't see why we should right now.
Sounds about right - but where does the £25m sum come from? Is that the asking price - seems too high.
Shaw has everything in his court and the club that wants him will do very well for themselves. He will run his contract down while playing getting experience and Southampton will be forced to sell him or he will get his move. If he wants a move to a big club, he won't be going for anything near £25m. If he plays his cards right, he can do the best possible move for him, while that club can do great business.
I am not too sure why people are saying £25 million is too much and comparing Fabio as an example... The twins were unheard of pretty much and we had an agreement with the selling club, and they weren't English....
It's more that you think the general market is too expensive as, £25 million isn't overpriced for the best young English LB with experience already unfortunately..
It's more that you think the general market is too expensive as, £25 million isn't overpriced for the best young English LB with experience already unfortunately..
Yes it is too expensive. If it was the best LB, ok you can say £25m but not for a young one (no matter how good he is). What LB's are going for 30+m?
I doubt it. His contract runs until 2018. If he trains on like he looks like he will then they'll either have to give him a new contract reasonably soon or he'll end up at another club altogether, well before his contract ends.
What good LB has moved recently? Moreover, name me a LB who showed as much potential as Shaw and had as many games by his age and is English so we have someone to compare to? Do I think he's worth that? No, but that's a different question.
That's the point, in a year or two, if he wants to leave, I don't think he will have 25m on his deal, a club will get him and Southampton will be forced to sell.
I would also prefer Shawn for 25m (which is too much) than Baines for 16m. Shawn postential IMO is way higher than Baines current ability (and potential) and he is ten years younger. Baines is a good player - no doubt about it - but a bit overrated here. The other problem is that Diego Milito is the only player I can remember who made the jump from a midtable team into a top one when he was around 30 years old and was a success. In most cases these transfers aren't good, be it a change of mentality or whatever. We have seen countless examples in the past with players who look good in midtable teams but looks a bit shit on top ones and I fear that the same can happen if we get Baines.
Shawn or Coentrao for me everytime before Baines. Even if the price is around 10m higher.
Shawn or Coentrao for me everytime before Baines. Even if the price is around 10m higher.
That's the thing, left backs don't go for that money, especially young ones.
Leighton Baines? I realise there is a difference due to age/ability, but he'd go for a similar amount.. again due to be English...
Well that's the thing. If he's got 3 or 4 years left on his deal and he's in the England squad why would they have to sell for anything less than huge money?
It's 'Shaw', Revan
We paid £16M for Jones, inflation for potential has sky rocketed since then if Shaw is valued at £25M. However, I can't see him coming for less than £20M.
Has anyone actually seen Shaw play, does he really have the potential to be as good as Baines?
Shawn will never come lads, don't be annoying yourselves.
How much Barca pay for Alba? No way are we paying that for Shaw. Rather get Coentrao.
Alba was in the last year of his deal, wasn't he? Plus Valencia were in financial difficulties.
25m for a fullback is just mental. Nobody splashes that kind of money on a fullback, not even City and Chelsea. Evra or Roberto Carlos in their prime were never anywhere that amount
His form has dipped a bit this season. He's looked prone defensively, been one of Everton's poorer performers thus far.
Yeah, think so. He also wanted to go to Barcelona only, seeing as that was his boyhood club.
Yeah, think so. He also wanted to go to Barcelona only, seeing as that was his boyhood club.